I think Wakeham has been pretty good for us, not brilliant-but a great goal kicker
Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion
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Eternal Tiger
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You don't rate Jofa, and that's fine but you don't think it may have been wise to actually replace his roster spot? Because the rainy day NEVER arrives for WT. We just try to compete with an already shit squad and stay well under the Cap.
BlackWhiteGold
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From Weidler’s column today:
At that point we didn’t say it was locked in, but talk of Sheens not seeing out his two-year deal as head coach won’t go away.
Sheens is said to be perplexed by what is happening at the club, and he is angry that he has lost his right-hand man, Warren McDonnell, his former head of recruitment. The significance of that is McDonnell was regarded as a non-negotiable when it came to Sheens taking the job.
A few weeks ago, Sheens was blindsided by a tweet we put out saying Scott Fulton was heading for the Tigers. Sheens was not part of the negotiations that secured one of the sharpest recruiters in the business. The relationship between Sheens and Fulton will be worth watching.
Fulton’s signing was shrewd but for Sheens it’s a red flag, no matter how the club wants to spin it. Then there was a promise that the recruitment men could work together, given, the story went, that they had strengths in different areas.
Fulton has the full backing of Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe and chairman Lee Hagipantelis — he was their most-prized recruit — so he is in a position of strength. Fulton was always going to survive the recruitment power struggle, and now he has the keys to the playing roster.
What will be interesting is how much say Sheens has. Sheens caught some at the club by surprise with his recent declaration that the club was going to offer much-maligned halfback Luke Brooks a new contract.
Not everyone at the Tigers thinks Brooks is the solution and the future of the club. The Tigers had a crack at signing Shaun Johnson in a clear indication that not everyone wants Brooks to stay. Sheens did not respond when contacted for comment.
Clouds remain over Sheens’ future
We were chastised by rival media for suggesting a few weeks back that Tim Sheenscould be headed for an early exit from his coaching duties at Wests Tigers.At that point we didn’t say it was locked in, but talk of Sheens not seeing out his two-year deal as head coach won’t go away.
Sheens is said to be perplexed by what is happening at the club, and he is angry that he has lost his right-hand man, Warren McDonnell, his former head of recruitment. The significance of that is McDonnell was regarded as a non-negotiable when it came to Sheens taking the job.
A few weeks ago, Sheens was blindsided by a tweet we put out saying Scott Fulton was heading for the Tigers. Sheens was not part of the negotiations that secured one of the sharpest recruiters in the business. The relationship between Sheens and Fulton will be worth watching.
Fulton’s signing was shrewd but for Sheens it’s a red flag, no matter how the club wants to spin it. Then there was a promise that the recruitment men could work together, given, the story went, that they had strengths in different areas.
Fulton has the full backing of Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe and chairman Lee Hagipantelis — he was their most-prized recruit — so he is in a position of strength. Fulton was always going to survive the recruitment power struggle, and now he has the keys to the playing roster.
What will be interesting is how much say Sheens has. Sheens caught some at the club by surprise with his recent declaration that the club was going to offer much-maligned halfback Luke Brooks a new contract.
Not everyone at the Tigers thinks Brooks is the solution and the future of the club. The Tigers had a crack at signing Shaun Johnson in a clear indication that not everyone wants Brooks to stay. Sheens did not respond when contacted for comment.
BlackWhiteGold
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Fair dinkum, if true our club continues to sabotage itself.
How are we going to sign players when the Recruitment Manager & Head Coach don’t agree?!
How are we going to sign players when the Recruitment Manager & Head Coach don’t agree?!
liltiger
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I'd imagine if he's serious about trying to sign him then he wouldn't want the club making Schuster look silly by claiming he has a ridiculous valuation.
Or maybe they’re also fed up with Sheens’ incompetence?
liltiger
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But the main thing is now, we never run out of the Gatorade.
weststigerman
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I thought that was why they sacked Hartigan, who I thought was doing a decent job.
Well, he’s not exactly setting the world on fire.
Remember it was Sheens decision to boot Maguire.
Live by the sword….
liltiger
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Old mate Pasco I'm convinced is a cockroach for stuff ups, no matter how bad a stuff up is, he will always survive.
Eternal Tiger
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And Scarf Sales are up 3.6% so stop your whining everybody
liltiger
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They played poor on Thursday with out a doubt. Sheens has the players improving imo in a way we at the Tigers havnt seen in years. We all know our major problem in a fully fit side is our halves atm that's what needs the attention recruitment wise. Our last 2 months have been pretty good, just can't get over the line but the team has been playing well, players have been improving, I was a critic of Sheens hiring but iv come around Imo I think he's done a good job.
All we need is a controlling half and imo we are finals bound. Thursday night we got back into it till Api got hurt then their heads went down and the players looked defeated. Wakeham and Talau both had the worst games in their careers, it'll be interesting to see the resolve of the players next week. Without Api our attack will be useless. But in defence if the guys put in all game then imo it's a sign the guys are buying in and were on the up
liltiger
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If they really want to make money they'll pop a 1 dollar coin slot on the Glenn Morrisson gloryhole at Leichardt oval
Sheens is definately part of the problem however the other parts of the problem are the muppets who make the decisions at the club and NEVER have to face the consequences for their idiocy.The whole collective bunch are holding the club back.To the people who sit at the top it just seems to a power and ego exercise for them and they think they are more important than the club itself .
finnzo
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I’m hopeful sheens and Fulton can get along the more great rugby league minds at our club pushing in the same direction the better
The name missing from that article is Marshall. What is his opinion of Fulton and McDonnell? Is the club simply supporting the future coach over the current coach, and if so has this strained the relationship between Sheens and Marshall?
tony soprano
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He gets a lot of credit for Manly current squad.
Coastie_Tiger
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Yep i agree Marshall or Farah are never mentioned, i think the failure of McDonell to get Moses was the final nail in the coffin for him. I would not be surprised in the slightest if Sheens moves aside for Benji and Robbie next season. I think Benji is and was well aware of what was going on in the background and this could be where this friction that keeps coming up is coming from.
It seems to have been handled poorly but I disagree that it should have been done at seasons end.
Give Fulton the maximum amount of time to address the needs of the current roster. There is little enough available on the market as is, there will be less come October.