Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[liltiger]

I hate to tell you but when we had Api and Luke both playing we were not winning games then either.We are 3-13 now and about as attractive as a keg of beer at the South Pole to devout muslims

But we were only a competent half from being a top 8 team, we were in if not dominating most games we just couldn't get across the line.

 

[The Chad]

Tigers have had promising players coming through like Tedesco, Moses and Wood 7 we all know how that went

Same can be said for any club. Panthers lose great talent annually. Still top of the tree. Being negative is easy. I like to think Sheens, moving back into a HoF role after handing over to Benji, resolves a bunch of that. And Fulton, despite whatever we hear, has had success keeping talent on the books at Manly too.

 

[Noggon]

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From what I was told about 1 week ago is that the brothers are gonna be Wests Tigers players and they've decided against the Dolphins.... this report to me just sounds like a ploy to maybe get more $ or commitment from management and let them know there's other options out there but this is concerning.

If this somehow gets messed up and we lose them to the Dolphins after all the advantages we have. That's the perfect indication that something is seriously seriously wrong with our club and we aren't ever going to get better unless both Lee and Pascoe are gone.

Sidenote: I work in the sporting industry and networking is obviously immense within this space, I know a few Penrith officials who warned me about Pascoe 7-8 years ago when we got him and they claimed he was a fraud and will ruin this club..... looking back at it now... I think they were right.

Can you remind me of the advantages the club has?
And how many more indications are needed to deduce or indicate something is seriously wrong with this club???
Any other club would have been rid of them after 1st failure...how many failures we up to so far?

 

[The Chad]

If we don't land the Fainus and I reckon we will, the journos need to do their job and ask all player managers why they don't advocate for their players to go to the Tigers.

There needs to be significant media & public pressure to say we need a new Chairman, new CEO and 1-2 new members of the board who command public respect. And if there is evidence showing they are the major part of the problem, at least the other Board members can act.

Actually- great point. Journo's have a great time picking holes & alluding to reasons. How about reporting the reasons why players don't sign. Getting to the real story, exposing it etc.

 

[Noggon]

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Same can be said for any club. Panthers lose great talent annually. Still top of the tree. Being negative is easy. I like to think Sheens, moving back into a HoF role after handing over to Benji, resolves a bunch of that. And Fulton, despite whatever we hear, has had success keeping talent on the books at Manly too.

Probably becoz Panthers have people who know what they're doing & know how to run a club.
Fulton arrives and we lose players to Manly. How does that work?
I'm pretty sure you've watched games this and last year to see how Sheens is going...to me looks pretty much flatlining with absolutely no pulse and no signs of revival

 

[Noggon]

There's nothing wrong with the merger. The problem is the incompetence in the board room and the fact Wests Ashfield don't seem competent enough to realise it and sort it out. The merger is fine. No club with a dud board room will achieve anything, what irks me is that Wests Ashfield think everything is hunky dorey.

I didn't actually say there was anything wrong with the merger...just I didn't like it.
Then again...are you sure there is nothing wrong with it?
I been saying all along the problems won't be fixed until a new broom sweeps through the board
And it seems like the incumbents have all got each other's backs...like a wagon train in a circle with the indians attacking

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

There's nothing wrong with the merger. The problem is the incompetence in the board room and the fact Wests Ashfield don't seem competent enough to realise it and sort it out. The merger is fine. No club with a dud board room will achieve anything, what irks me is that Wests Ashfield think everything is hunky dorey.

Spot on

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Actually- great point. Journo's have a great time picking holes & alluding to reasons. How about reporting the reasons why players don't sign. Getting to the real story, exposing it etc.

Yep it's not that hard. There are only about 8 major management agencies. They can even be reported on the basis of anonymity like most stories they leak.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

This club is a dumpster fire and almost beyond repair, these imbeciles in the front office don't know their head from their arse. The coaching staff isnt much better, we are giving the NRL all the ammo they need to punt us, Pascoe must go the hat must go the board need to be disassembled. Will any of that happen, no so we deserve what we get, im so over it we are beyond a joke.

 

[Tigers_Wests]

https://twitter.com/i/web/status/1677123790780928002

Mole says the Dolphins are firming as favourites.
"There are a few clubs interested and we are just weighing up what's best for the boys and their family," manager Mario Tartak told WWOS.

The fact it is the mole still gives hope that it is incorrect and unreliable information. Even though the headline screams out that they have made their decision, it is still a guess based off of a source he perceives as having good information. The quote you listed to me reads "we are seeing if we can get more money out of clubs before making our decision".

We have been releasing players and freeing cap space for years with nothing to show.....about time we use some of that money and make sure we land these recruits.

The other thing is Manly don't have to release them. They will still want something. Giving them Talau early (to cover their injuries) and some cash should get the deal over the line.

If we stuff this up, we have no hope of landing anyone decent from outside the club.

 

[weststigerman]

As I said a few days ago, after Fainu knocks us back, Canberra will likely already have signed Sanders and we’ll still have no halves.

Next year is looking more and more likely to be Wakeham partnering another NSW Cup half.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Nah, Dogs will probably take Wakeham back to play thirds and we’ll end up with an even more mediocre player who doesn’t goal kick.

Don't worry Adam Clune won't knock us back

 

[liltiger]

I didn't actually say there was anything wrong with the merger...just I didn't like it.
Then again...are you sure there is nothing wrong with it?
I been saying all along the problems won't be fixed until a new broom sweeps through the board
And it seems like the incumbents have all got each other's backs...like a wagon train in a circle with the indians attacking

How the powers at be at Wests Ashfield think people with no experience with anything to do with N.R.L or sport in general would make good board members on an N.R.L team is beyond belief.

 

[Noggon]

How the powers at be at Wests Ashfield think people with no experience with anything to do with N.R.L or sport in general would make good board members on an N.R.L team is beyond belief.

Which means none of them should be there

 

[426Tlgerland]

One things for sure... I know we haven't been performing great lately but I really hope Blore isn't on the trading block he looks to be elevating his game under Sheens/Benji and I'm excited to see if he can fulfil his potential that made him the SG Ball captain of that Penrith team that did so much damage.

Seems to be one of the only positives this season he can be anything imo

Blore is a keeper ,he has been I jured last 2 years , now injury free he is starting to show his potential , absolute keeper

 

[426Tlgerland]

I was just listening to the post match interview with Sheens, they asked about the Tommy Talau contract situation, he stated that he didn't know anything about it, and it hasn't been discussed with him. Manly have announced his signing last week, what is going on with our club, honestly.

He knows exactly what’s going on , just thought he mite be a smart asrse make Fulton , Lee look like dicks for not updating him

 

[Wearyfan22]

I don't like hysteria but losing out on the Fainus would be disastrous for the club. The manager comments quoted are very concerning. It's a very sad state of affairs and I can't see a way out. Without halves we simply won't win games, recruiting will be harder still and our decent recent signings will age out. In saying that the Sheens comments in the post match presser have been taken way out of context by some and my hunch is issues in the club between sheens, benji and fulton are overrstated..

Can anyone please give me some hope? apart from this mysterious amazing crop of 14-16 year olds everyone raves about. You simply cant hang your hat on that as a club.

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

He knows exactly what’s going on , just thought he mite be a smart asrse make Fulton , Lee look like dicks for not updating him

So whats the point of that to make us look even worse, the club is self sabotaging as i said before the front office is rotten. But the whinging and bitching Sheens and Benji are doing through the media is just as bad, why would players want to come here the in fighting is extreme.
I get Sheens isnt happy his mate is gone but he was hardly doing a bang up job, and now the new guy can't do his job because he's got so many knives hanging out of his back it isnt funny.

 

[jirskyr]

I don't like hysteria but losing out on the Fainus would be disastrous for the club.

I don't like hysteria... but I'll try it out...

 

[Eternal Tiger]

I have been watching the great game since 1978 and I am starting to believe the Clowns in charge of the NRL want some of the Sydney based clubs to die, move to Perth or elsewhere or join together.

Surely the shit show that is the WT, Bulldogs and Dragons is not a great look for the game.
Really not enough genuine talent to go around.

I find I switch off games when the contest is over at half time. Thank you for cricket at the moment.

I don't think WT have recovered from the Woods, Moses and Teddy disaster from years ago and it is still impacting the club. Also the way Heighington, Marshall and Farah were treated also has an impact on player recruitment. I appreciate loyalty in the game is long gone on both sides and it is all about the money and instant success.

Like many on this Forum the answers to our prayers (whether it be Management, Coaches or Players) does not seem to be forthcoming. I believe success starts from the top so like to see a clean out of management.

If we don't land some big recruits soon more promising juniors will leave and back to back to back Wooden Spoons is a real possibility.

I am loyal to my Magpies and now WT but am finding hard each season to give a real crap about a real change ever happening. 2005 seems so long ago.

Sorry I will get off my soap box now.

The NRL is not responsible for inept Management. No other Club has missed the Finals 12 years in a row.