Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[pawsandclaws1]

Manly are trying to shed players, their cap is under pressure.

Under pressure because they want to re-sign a player or two? We should be looking at the player(s) they want to re-sign using Fogarty's contract money.

 

[Leck]

I don’t believe I made positive comments on the other three.

There is a lack of decent half backs in the game. Fogarty is one. Would enable whoever our six is to play accordingly and spread the ball wide.

Fogarty is 32. Still should have some miles in his legs. If it forces out AD so be it.

At this stage, I think dumping Adam’s contract would be a mistake. We need depth, even though Adams manager, Isaac Moses, has proven to be a cancer to the game. Fogarty, in my opinion, is not the answer.

 

[king_sirro]

Is Manly feeling the damage of too many Isaac Moses clients again?

I’d take Fogarty, Paseka and Nathan Brown with Manly chipping in ATLEAST half of their wages.

Oh thank God you arent in recruitment. You have no idea

 

[balmain boy]

Adam's game impact metric is +5.90, compared to Jamal's +5.00. Adam has the added advantage of being able to cover multiple positions, which Jamal can't.

Adam's biggest liability is his body. He's extremely injury-prone. Jamal's biggest liability is his age, he'll be 33 next year.

Adam cannot cover positions. He can only play one position and that's 5/8. He cannot play centre or fullback. He can't play halfback. He won't play in the forwards.

He's a selfish player, that makes everyone around him worse. He has some individual skills but his body and his attitude is appalling. Ultimately he's a toxic player and needs to be released ASAP.

 

[Rock Hopper Steve]

Under pressure because they want to re-sign a player or two? We should be looking at the player(s) they want to re-sign using Fogarty's contract money.

That would be ideal if you could prise them away and they are a good fit, I'm not all over their roster but think their guns are locked away long term.

 

[Ecto-1]

She's just at the start of her career. She's another 15 years from retirement.... 😂😂😂

Same could have been said for Ash Barty. Being a parent is a powerful motivator. How many NRLW players have stopped playing to have a kid then come back.

 

[balmain boy]

We are also short of players with genuine tackle break and line break ability.
We are one of the worst, if not the worst team in the NRL in that area .
AD is close to our best tackle breaker and line breaker, so who is going to make the tackle breaks and line breaks if we get rid of him?
Even if you have Nathan Cleary in your team, he cannot do much to help if the team is very limited in way of tackle break and line break ability.

This is why we can't sign Murray, Mason and Sukkar. None of them can break a tackle. We already have players at 29 and 30 like Herbert and Roberts who can't break tackles and are on minimum. If we suddenly have 7-8 players on minimum who offer no value or versatility to an NRL side then we're effectively playing with a top 22 and a heap of NSW cup players

 

[cktiger]

This might be a fair observation if he had only started playing selfish footy on his current contract. A few years back he was reportedly on about $650k and still playing the same selfish footy.

If I had to make up a reason why (other than him being a selfish player generally), I'd say it comes back to his high school days. He is one of the few regular first graders that didn't come through one of the top school programs. He didn't have the quality around him that most did, so he often would have had to go himself. This play has been ingrained in him to the point we still see it today (though I think more likely just a selfish footballer, rather than anything to do with junior days).

He played rugby union in high school for St Patrick’s Strathfield.

 

[Tito Santana]

Oh thank God you arent in recruitment. You have no idea

Ok. Would you go after anyone over there?

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

So we made an offer and got rejected in less than a week? It’s that or we were anti tampering.

Or a journo had a slow news day and knows that WTs parent owns an ALW franchise.

Mary earns $600k a year at Man City plus she has a $10m 5 year Adidas sponsorship which i am sure they leveraged against her appearances with City. The ALW salary cap is $670k so I am not sure how the Mariners are fielding a side.

It's all bullshit or someone made an off the cuff comment and its been taken as gospel.

 

[upthetigers]

Jock is a good organiser who straightens the attack,and has a good short kicking game...but cant defend..cant kick long...
Cant fix the first one,but AD or others can help the long kicking issue
But hes heavily targeted in defence, and makes us very vulnerable against the better teams
So for me,hes just a backup

Thinking a bit left field, I wonder if Benji is considering Jock and Javon in the halves? Javon should be able to handle the physicality and has a long boot to compliment Jock. I am starting Latu off the bench until he can prove he can stay injury free. Not great for his development but he is too good to leave out of the team. As the 14 utility player would you rather Latu or Mason? I think we know the answer to that question.

 

[Flippedy]

Manly are trying to shed players, their cap is under pressure.

It beggars belief they are so under pressure cap wise. They must’ve royally screwed up the contracts for Turbo, Koula & Haumole because the rest of their roster is full of pretty average players, especially when you compare their team to the Roosters or even St George now the way they’re shaping up for next season.

Garrick is already gone and I don’t know if they’ve even brought in anyone of note for next season. Sounds like they’re paying overs for too many average players and putting a lot of stock into unproven juniors. We certainly know what that’s like!

 

[Don Kershane]

One could roll a cigarette from the time Paseka takes the ball to the time he hits the line.

 

[balmain boy]

Have you seen much of him BB?

I haven't so i dont want yo be a critical,but my gut tells me he is a Kannaan type junior. Strong and fast for his age but not much depth to his talent and wont progress to NRL.

Much much better than Kanaan. Didn't watch him at the dogs but statistically he was excellent.
He'd be faster than every back we had at the club this year. His defence against men will be the issue he has to work through most. But you could say the same for every player at the club too.

 

[Dennisspicer1]

Ok tell me a decent 7 on the market we genuinely could get now. Cleary is a pipe dream.

SAM.

 

[BlackWhiteGold]

Under pressure because they want to re-sign a player or two? We should be looking at the player(s) they want to re-sign using Fogarty's contract money.

Caleb Navale - he will be worth double in 12-18 months time mark my words.

 

[Leck]

DCE ranks #114 Trindall #111

I would take those rankings with a grain of salt

Exactly, AD ranks above them.

Cutting ties early and clearing out that cap space gives our club a clean slate to build a team with a genuine focus on development, rather than banking on a collection of ageing players looking for one final payday.

 

[balmain boy]

Or a journo had a slow news day and knows that WTs parent owns an ALW franchise.

Mary earns $600k a year at Man City plus she has a $10m 5 year Adidas sponsorship which i am sure they leveraged against her appearances with City. The ALW salary cap is $670k so I am not sure how the Mariners are fielding a side.

It's all bullshit or someone made an off the cuff comment and its been taken as gospel.

Marquee players are outside of the cap. If Mary wanted to play in the Aleague to be closer to Nathan then her salary wouldn't fall under the cap and they could pay her as much as they want

 

[mtd#2]

Who said he has left ?

There was another post on who we had for the year breaking down top 30 and train and trial - wasnt listed. Also seen some comments around he isnt with us. Do you know?

 

[balmain boy]

SAM.

He said genuinely.