Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[JC99]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

I can’t see Jennings being on $400k. He was off contract and no clubs wanted him - plus he’s a winger. Probably more like $300k

 

[JC99]

Don’t know why player salaries aren’t public. It would save a lot of drama in the footy world

I think it would only cause my arguements because clubs/supporters would be saying we tried to sign player X for 800k but he signed to play for the rorters for only 270k

Would make it harder for clubs to cheat the cap and it gives fans an idea of how the club is spending their money

Can understand why players don’t want it, look how much hate Mbye gets.

 

[Curly_Tiger]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

I can’t see Jennings being on $400k. He was off contract and no clubs wanted him - plus he’s a winger. Probably more like $300k

Jennings is $350k sadly

 

[Curly_Tiger]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

There’s no way that even with re-signing two players we would have $1.7 million left. I’m guessing more around a million or less

Don’t know why player salaries aren’t public. It would save a lot of drama in the footy world

I think the key difference relates to the fact that I estimate we are around $500k under the cap for 2020 and that we would/could/should have used that to prepay some of the future which then means it frees that amount up from 2021

 

[teddy23]

Adam Doueihi
David Nofoaluma
BJ Leilua
Tommy Talau
Josh Addo-Carr
Luke Brooks
Kyle Flanagan
Josh Alioia
Brandon Smith
Russell Packer
Luciano Leilua
Tetita Pangai Jr
Alex Twal

Bench
14. Thomas Mikale
15. Shawn Blore
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Jacob Liddle

That team can win a premiership and be a threat for the next decade , looking at the team it’s also incredibly young and that forward pack would be one of the most intimating in the whole comp with heavy hitters in B Smith, Pangai Jr, Blore, Packer and Alioia all there

The pace of Addo-Carr and Nofa would help Doueihi much more as it adds that speed element we lack... which would give more space to BJ and Talau who would both benefit a lot with that

Brooks has showed he has it as recently as 2018 where he was the halfback of the year and Flanagan who’s extremely composed would help take some of the load of Brooks while also being a goal kicker - behind that pack these two players could be anything

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Adam Doueihi
David Nofoaluma
BJ Leilua
Tommy Talau
Josh Addo-Carr
Luke Brooks
Kyle Flanagan
Josh Alioia
Brandon Smith
Russell Packer
Luciano Leilua
Tetita Pangai Jr
Alex Twal

Bench
14. Thomas Mikale
15. Shawn Blore
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Jacob Liddle

Not liking our chances of pulling that off on a few levels, but that would be a huge win for us, and should see us playing finals footy next year and for a quite few years after

That team can win a premiership and be a threat for the next decade , looking at the team it’s also incredibly young and that forward pack would be one of the most intimating in the whole comp with heavy hitters in B Smith, Pangai Jr, Blore, Packer and Alioia all there

The pace of Addo-Carr and Nofa would help Doueihi much more as it adds that speed element we lack... which would give more space to BJ and Talau who would both benefit a lot with that

Brooks has showed he has it as recently as 2018 where he was the halfback of the year and Flanagan who’s extremely composed would help take some of the load of Brooks while also being a goal kicker - behind that pack these two players could be anything

I'm with you Teddy, those players or similar are definitely possible and see us make a big step forward for sure

 

[Russell]

I think it’s a fair statement to say in 2021 we’ll more than likely have either Harry Grant or Brandon Smith at the club.... most likely Smith

If we can get Pangai Jr and Brandon Smith..... wow

Kyle Flanagan should be heavily targeted, he’s nearly a certainty to leave due to Sam Walker’s rise and wouldn’t break the bank at all and would be our future 7 who also goal kicks and seems to be very mature and composed...

When Latrell knocked us back, the tigers leaked the JAC rumours straight away and THE POM has also confirmed our interest, would be a good inclusion at 500 k - I would personally offer Momo and Huth to get the deal over the line - Huth as good as he’s been, Twal is basically the same player with more upside... don’t see a spot in the team for him if we have Twal and he can join his cousin in Melbourne and you’d think the storm would be keen on him

- JAC (500k)
- Kyle Flanagan (500k)
- Panga Jr (650 k)
- Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k)

2.2 mil in cap space - money we’d seemingly attract if Reynolds, Mbye (subsided) , Packer (downgrade), ET and McQueen leave along with the Farah money

1. Adam Doueihi
2. David Nofoaluma
3. BJ Leilua
4. Tommy Talau
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Luke Brooks
7. Kyle Flanagan
8. Josh Alioia
9. Brandon Smith
10. Russell Packer
11. Luciano Leilua
12. Tetita Pangai Jr
13. Alex Twal

Bench
14. Thomas Mikale
15. Shawn Blore
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Jacob Liddle

Depth like Musgrove, Mcintyre, and Garner as well - our pack would be complete, just looking at that line up it would be one of the most intimidating packs to line up against with a real enforces mentality...

Packer signed till the end of next year.

You can't downgrade an existing contract.

 

[JC99]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

There’s no way that even with re-signing two players we would have $1.7 million left. I’m guessing more around a million or less

Don’t know why player salaries aren’t public. It would save a lot of drama in the footy world

I think the key difference relates to the fact that I estimate we are around $500k under the cap for 2020 and that we would/could/should have used that to prepay some of the future which then means it frees that amount up from 2021

I’m not sure we were under the cap? We offered Latrell big dollars but in his place we’ve signed Doueihi and Joey, both guys are being paid by their former clubs and we will have to pay them more next year as well. We might’ve been a little under but not by much - haven’t heard about pre paying contracts before, not sure if that’s a thing or not. If Packer is meant to be paid $700k next year that’s what will come out of the cap

 

[Wombat]

Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

The Veteran or developed player allowance is 200k-300k, and could be used on Nofa, no need to benji after this year!

 

[Curly_Tiger]

Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

The Veteran or developed player allowance is 200k-300k, and could be used on Nofa, no need to benji after this year!

True, good point, it does seem to be $200k from what I’ve read

 

[teddy23]

I think it’s a fair statement to say in 2021 we’ll more than likely have either Harry Grant or Brandon Smith at the club.... most likely Smith

If we can get Pangai Jr and Brandon Smith..... wow

Kyle Flanagan should be heavily targeted, he’s nearly a certainty to leave due to Sam Walker’s rise and wouldn’t break the bank at all and would be our future 7 who also goal kicks and seems to be very mature and composed...

When Latrell knocked us back, the tigers leaked the JAC rumours straight away and THE POM has also confirmed our interest, would be a good inclusion at 500 k - I would personally offer Momo and Huth to get the deal over the line - Huth as good as he’s been, Twal is basically the same player with more upside... don’t see a spot in the team for him if we have Twal and he can join his cousin in Melbourne and you’d think the storm would be keen on him

- JAC (500k)
- Kyle Flanagan (500k)
- Panga Jr (650 k)
- Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k)

2.2 mil in cap space - money we’d seemingly attract if Reynolds, Mbye (subsided) , Packer (downgrade), ET and McQueen leave along with the Farah money

1. Adam Doueihi
2. David Nofoaluma
3. BJ Leilua
4. Tommy Talau
5. Josh Addo-Carr
6. Luke Brooks
7. Kyle Flanagan
8. Josh Alioia
9. Brandon Smith
10. Russell Packer
11. Luciano Leilua
12. Tetita Pangai Jr
13. Alex Twal

Bench
14. Thomas Mikale
15. Shawn Blore
16. Stefano Utoikamanu
17. Jacob Liddle

Depth like Musgrove, Mcintyre, and Garner as well - our pack would be complete, just looking at that line up it would be one of the most intimidating packs to line up against with a real enforces mentality...

Packer signed till the end of next year.

You can't downgrade an existing contract.

Well if that’s the case

Let’s say we sign JAC on 500k
Then sign B smith on 600k

Packer is on like 700k.... after next season I think a 350- 400k deal is fair and something he’d probably agree too to make up for the 325k let’s say

You can just slightly back load for the second year so we can fit them in the first year then pay actual salary in the third year

B Smith gets 450k first year 750k second year than 600k third year

JAC gets 350k first year 650k second year 500k third year

All relates to smart cap management I guess

 

[Curly_Tiger]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

There’s no way that even with re-signing two players we would have $1.7 million left. I’m guessing more around a million or less

Don’t know why player salaries aren’t public. It would save a lot of drama in the footy world

I think the key difference relates to the fact that I estimate we are around $500k under the cap for 2020 and that we would/could/should have used that to prepay some of the future which then means it frees that amount up from 2021

I’m not sure we were under the cap? We offered Latrell big dollars but in his place we’ve signed Doueihi and Joey, both guys are being paid by their former clubs and we will have to pay them more next year as well. We might’ve been a little under but not by much - haven’t heard about pre paying contracts before, not sure if that’s a thing or not. If Packer is meant to be paid $700k next year that’s what will come out of the cap

Again based on my records we’d be close to $500k, again I could be wrong

If you were under the cap for 2020 and you were extending guys already under contract it wouldn’t be hard to front load a few a touch and you’re balanced for 2020 with more up your sleeve for 2021

I’d be shocked if we hadn’t done this, not to would be a massive missed opportunity

 

[Curly_Tiger]

I’ve got a spreadsheet by player by year but I’m sure if I shared it I’d have to defend each and every one, we’d all go mad
I’d say it’s broadly correct

 

[JC99]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

There’s no way that even with re-signing two players we would have $1.7 million left. I’m guessing more around a million or less

Don’t know why player salaries aren’t public. It would save a lot of drama in the footy world

I think the key difference relates to the fact that I estimate we are around $500k under the cap for 2020 and that we would/could/should have used that to prepay some of the future which then means it frees that amount up from 2021

I’m not sure we were under the cap? We offered Latrell big dollars but in his place we’ve signed Doueihi and Joey, both guys are being paid by their former clubs and we will have to pay them more next year as well. We might’ve been a little under but not by much - haven’t heard about pre paying contracts before, not sure if that’s a thing or not. If Packer is meant to be paid $700k next year that’s what will come out of the cap

Again based on my records we’d be close to $500k, again I could be wrong

If you were under the cap for 2020 and you were extending guys already under contract it wouldn’t be hard to front load a few a touch and you’re balanced for 2020 with more up your sleeve for 2021

I’d be shocked if we hadn’t done this, not to would be a massive missed opportunity

Problem is no one knows if the numbers are correct.... majority of players that are signed you never know what they’re on. When there’s 30 players and you’re only a little off on every one it can add up to being a big change overall.

Are you allowed to front load contracts like that? I think the NRL are strict on front and back ending contracts.

 

[Russell]

Not sure about Flanagan. Not sure he’s

It's Keary that is running the team, not Flannagan.

His GK this year not that crash hot either.

 

[JC99]

Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

The Veteran or developed player allowance is 200k-300k, and could be used on Nofa, no need to benji after this year!

That’s a good idea. Considering he’s pretty highly paid for a winger it should go on him.

 

[JC99]

Not sure about Flanagan. Not sure he’s

It's Keary that is running the team, not Flannagan.

His GK this year not that crash hot either.

That’s what I think too, while he’s not a bad player I don’t think it’s him leading them around. He’s got good passing but his long kicking isn’t that great

 

[Roar_Power]

If we can get two players that are rumoured to be possibly available it would have to be Brandon Smith and Josh Addo Carr. Pangai would be next in line. I get the issues around character but Madge can get people fit and in line we need talent.

Would love to take a Storm trifecta in JAC, Welch and Smith/ Grant.

 

[Geo]

Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

The Veteran or developed player allowance is 200k-300k, and could be used on Nofa, no need to benji after this year!

That’s a good idea. Considering he’s pretty highly paid for a winger it should go on him.

You just said ..no one knows how much they get paid.... so how do you know Nofoaluma is highly paid..?

 

[Curly_Tiger]

We currently have 21 for 2021 being Aloia, Blore, Brooks, Chee Kam, Douehi, Garner, Kepao, BJ Leilua, L Leilua, Liddle, Mbye, Mikaele, Momo, Musgrove, Nofo, Packer, Reynolds, Talau, Twal, Walters, Uto

Estimated at $8.2m leaving $1.7m for 9 players (2021 Cap is $9.9m, no penalty anymore)

Assume at least 3 development players at $115k each and McIntyre upgraded to $200k and we’re at $1.2m left for 5 players
Get Benji for FREE with the veteran allowance and it’s still $1.2m for 4 players
Assume further that any saving on the 2020 cap (est. $500k) was used to bring forward future dollars and it could potentially be as much as $1.7m for 4 players
I’d take Eiso for $200k, then it’s $1.5m for 3 players

Mbye or JRey leave with us paying half and it’s an extra $0.4m each
Let’s assume we offload one and we have $1.9m for 4 players

It’s not far off Teddy23 numbers above so you get an idea of what we could go for

Teddy23 suggested the following and I don’t mind any of them but maybe I’d prefer Welch’s stability over TPJs rollercoaster
• JAC (500k)
• Kyle Flanagan (500k) OR CHT
• Panga Jr (650 k) OR Christian Welch
• Brandon Smith (if grant goes back) (600k) OR Harry

$1.7 million for next season seems incredibly generous.

Seyfarth, Clark, Taylor, Smith and Jenninga wouldn’t be on much coin each. The 4 development guys joining the top 30 next season would probably be on the same as Seyfarth and Smith at the very least. McQueen is the only guy leaving who’s on decent money.

If McIntyre and Eiso are extended I would expect them to be on around $250-$300k each. We will have some cap space - but no where near $1.7million. Probably more around a million or less. Some guys may earn more this year compared to last year as well.

$1.7m has some logic behind it, its not plucked out of mid air, I’ve been following the dollars as closely as you can for a number of years

Development players cancel each other out whether the names change or not

Taylor, McQueen & Jennings are on $400k, $400k & $350k respectively

Eiso is unlikely to be in huge demand and McIntyre is on $115k this year so I’d imagine they’d build his increases over a couple of years, $200k is a fair lift for a guy with a handful of games so far

I could of course be wrong on my numbers, we all could but I reckon I’m thereabouts

There’s no way that even with re-signing two players we would have $1.7 million left. I’m guessing more around a million or less

Don’t know why player salaries aren’t public. It would save a lot of drama in the footy world

I think the key difference relates to the fact that I estimate we are around $500k under the cap for 2020 and that we would/could/should have used that to prepay some of the future which then means it frees that amount up from 2021

I’m not sure we were under the cap? We offered Latrell big dollars but in his place we’ve signed Doueihi and Joey, both guys are being paid by their former clubs and we will have to pay them more next year as well. We might’ve been a little under but not by much - haven’t heard about pre paying contracts before, not sure if that’s a thing or not. If Packer is meant to be paid $700k next year that’s what will come out of the cap

Again based on my records we’d be close to $500k, again I could be wrong

If you were under the cap for 2020 and you were extending guys already under contract it wouldn’t be hard to front load a few a touch and you’re balanced for 2020 with more up your sleeve for 2021

I’d be shocked if we hadn’t done this, not to would be a massive missed opportunity

Problem is no one knows if the numbers are correct.... majority of players that are signed you never know what they’re on. When there’s 30 players and you’re only a little off on every one it can add up to being a big change overall.

Are you allowed to front load contracts like that? I think the NRL are strict on front and back ending contracts.

Forget all the detail of this article, its speculation but one key line is "However, if no one of interest becomes available, they have the freedom to "front load" player contracts for the upcoming seasons."

https://wwos.nine.com.au/nrl/wests-tigers-1-million-salary-cap-space-for-2020-season/0a0d9f95-2ac3-48f2-9f42-14ffe7a83a1f

Seems like you can front load based on that