OFFICIAL Simon Dwyer [Discussion]
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I like him. He looks bigger this year. I wouldn't mind if he is in the starting side this week at second row/lock.
I haven't agreed with much Ron Burgandy has posted lately but he's got this one right with that pack. Dwyer will play off the bench for some months still, but match fit, thats the best back row we can field. Just what our halves need.
I new both Fifita and Dwyer would hold their spots one given a chance. Along with Lui and Mullaney they were a class above the rest in the NYC. I'm a big fan of what Jason Shirnack did in the NYC too.
Payten is a good club man, but i think better suited to the bench at this stage of his career too.
I new both Fifita and Dwyer would hold their spots one given a chance. Along with Lui and Mullaney they were a class above the rest in the NYC. I'm a big fan of what Jason Shirnack did in the NYC too.
Payten is a good club man, but i think better suited to the bench at this stage of his career too.
@ron burgandy said:
Given the modern game with 100kg centres do you think Dwyer should be moved into the centres like St Chockers have done with Beau Scott and Matt Prior?
From all reports Dwyer was a former centre turned second rower so he is use to the position. Appears to be strong in defence and can offload a ball.
I am still no 100% convinced of Ashyford as starting centre.
From all reports Dwyer was a former centre turned second rower so he is use to the position. Appears to be strong in defence and can offload a ball.
I am still no 100% convinced of Ashyford as starting centre.
citizen_cub
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Dwyer's a big man…
Alot bigger than Scott or Prior.
Dwyer is a great defender, except I don't know whether he has the speed to play in the backs.
Alot bigger than Scott or Prior.
Dwyer is a great defender, except I don't know whether he has the speed to play in the backs.
crouching_tiger
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Ayshford is 95kgs and still growing. Is a gun centre and will mould to 5/8th then lock. Simmo is a wide running backrower who runs straight. Both players are of the FEW being used correctly by Sheens..
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As Smeg suggested, Mataka would be a better option in the centres over Dwyer, he's quicker, also has better lateral movement from what I've seen, defends well and also checks into the 100kg club.
I don't know how Ayshford is 95kg, maybe his height helps him but he's straight up and down like a roof bolt at the moment.
I don't know how Ayshford is 95kg, maybe his height helps him but he's straight up and down like a roof bolt at the moment.
Always enjoy your insightful comments Willow including your match reviews. I am happy for Mataka to play in the centres and for Dwyer to start in the second row with Payten coming off the bench with Fifita for the prop rotation.
We need someone to protect Marshall in defence as he makes so many missed tackles.
We need someone to protect Marshall in defence as he makes so many missed tackles.
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Doesn't need to prove it like that. He proved it when he beat all bar one in every speed trial the club had this year
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@Kickme said:
Dwyer was far smaller then than he is now, and Mataka has the times on the board as the second quickest behind Taumata.
hybrid_tiger
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Dwyer playing prop - Bronson Harrison mark II.
A second rower being forced to play prop because of Sheens' obsession with playing second rowers in the front row.
Dwyer is not a player who should be forced to hit it up the middle with the pigs. He made 30 metres last night. 30 metres.
Once again Sheens just refuses to replace injured players with a fit player in the same position. How hard is it to select a prop forward to replace Payten when injured? Why is it so difficult?
A second rower being forced to play prop because of Sheens' obsession with playing second rowers in the front row.
Dwyer is not a player who should be forced to hit it up the middle with the pigs. He made 30 metres last night. 30 metres.
Once again Sheens just refuses to replace injured players with a fit player in the same position. How hard is it to select a prop forward to replace Payten when injured? Why is it so difficult?
How do you think Sheens has been using Dwyer for the last 7 weeks?….this isn't something that just happened last night...
It is Sheens Obseesion with having 1 frontrower on the field and Backrowers for the majority of gametime...
Fulton, Heighington and Ellis play 95% of the game..
Payten,Moors, Gibbs, even Fifita are backrowers really ...
To me it showed how much we missed Payten..... he is crucial to the 'PROP' rotation...
It is Sheens Obseesion with having 1 frontrower on the field and Backrowers for the majority of gametime...
Fulton, Heighington and Ellis play 95% of the game..
Payten,Moors, Gibbs, even Fifita are backrowers really ...
To me it showed how much we missed Payten..... he is crucial to the 'PROP' rotation...
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I agree with Hybrid in that Dwyer's game should not be based on hitting it up the middle like a prop. He was so damaging in the NYC playing wide on the edges where he could offload and put players away, and he looked good doing it for Wests this year before getting the call up to FG.
The 1 prop on the bench I don't agree with, it should be two props, one backrower and a utility back. Heighno, Ellis and Fulton can all play 80 minutes if required, 1 back rower to help them out is all that's required.
Payten missing last night definitely hurt, and Moors being injured also hurt. Two props such as Payten/Fifita, or Payten/Moors, Fifita/Moors is what the team needs IMO. Dwyer is a good backrow option and then you've got the utility back. I cannot see this team going too far in the finals with 1 prop on the bench.
The 1 prop on the bench I don't agree with, it should be two props, one backrower and a utility back. Heighno, Ellis and Fulton can all play 80 minutes if required, 1 back rower to help them out is all that's required.
Payten missing last night definitely hurt, and Moors being injured also hurt. Two props such as Payten/Fifita, or Payten/Moors, Fifita/Moors is what the team needs IMO. Dwyer is a good backrow option and then you've got the utility back. I cannot see this team going too far in the finals with 1 prop on the bench.
Eye_Of_Wests_Tigers
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another sheens masterstroke
hybrid_tiger
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@Geo. said:
I am aware of this and its just wrong.
@Geo. said:
An obsession which clearly doesn't work.
@Geo. said:
To me it shows how stubborn Sheens is with his selection.
Payten is out, so he replaces him with Gibbs in the starting line-up (fair enough) but why bring Flanagan onto the bench? Gibbs was originally supposed to be on the bench and then he is replaced with a small backrower who lacks impact at the best of time.
Galloway goes off injured and is replaced by Simon Dwyer. Does Sheens really expect Dwyer to provide the same impact that Galloway does as a prop forward.
It is pathetic.
fergiefurr
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Hopefully dwyer will be as effective as Bronson, Danny galea and Corey payne were at prop.
@Geo. said:
I agree to a point. Sheens loves stacking his bench with 3 backrowers and a back.
I think Fifita and Gibbs are props and Moors is a big backrower who could also play prop. I do not think that Dwyer is in the same category.
We also have 3 starting backrowers who can play a lot of minutes.
Logically the thing to stack the bench with would be props. Sheens though sees things differently.
tiger_tigers
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yes another example of sheens pig headedness….they wont be getting anymore of my cash whilst sheens remains at the helm ....
