OFFICIAL Simon Dwyer [Discussion]

in a regular season game it would have been given as a penalty… but no way in hell was the Vid ref going to overrule that 20m righ in front with 40secs to go.... but anyway by god it looked great when it happened regardless of it being high
 
that media clown ray hadley commented that in any other game it would have been a penalty, duh. the best hit of the year and there is no way that should have been a penalty. does dwyer remove his arm from the shoulder so as not to hit a falling player ! everyone knows that in semi's there is more latitude in offsides etc, although hayne did pick up one tigers forward pass and missed the three that the roorters threw in front of bay 14\. i just hope dwyer lays a few more on some raiders this friday
 
@Fibro said:
Despite all the arguments about the Simon Dwyer tackle (and I thought it was the hit of the year), the fact is there should never have been a scrum set. After the tackle the ball came loose and Dwyer picked up the ball cleanly and ran up field with it. Therefore it should have been play on and the Wests Tigers would have had possession. Hayne got that wrong too.

you my friend are 100% correct.
even after the replays, i was thinking why the hell is a scrum being packed.
still, why didnt farah feed the scrum normally thru the 2nd rows legs and picked it up instead of heighno trying to waste 2.5 secs and attempting to keep it in the scrum.
that was the worst scrum ever. the roosters front rower basically packed into our 2nd row.
 
@Blackpearl said:
that media clown ray hadley commented that in any other game it would have been a penalty, duh. the best hit of the year and there is no way that should have been a penalty. does dwyer remove his arm from the shoulder so as not to hit a falling player ! everyone knows that in semi's there is more latitude in offsides etc, although hayne did pick up one tigers forward pass and missed the three that the roorters threw in front of bay 14\. i just hope dwyer lays a few more on some raiders this friday

Didn"t Know Ray was still on the airways,haven"t put myself through listening to him since Super League.

If Dwyers was high then Merrits hit on Lawrence was a level 1 haircut
 
One of the highlights of the match (and there were many !). Can't stop watching it.
However, it's a penalty every day of the week (based on past rulings).
 
That was a huge hit. JWH was running with his head in front of his body slightly bent forwards, putting himself in a position where he could get hit high. It was one of those calls that could go either way, though I always favour the defending team in this situation.
 
I think Dwyers shoulder glanced off the ball.

The VR looked at it very closely and I don't think that should ever be a penalty. They have sanitised our game enough
 
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For anyone who missed it…Enjoy....

Oh...and please show me the knock on
 
Such an awesome hit play on should have been the ruling. These 2 were at each other all night, so good to see him level this big fella
 
from today's SMH by Chris Barrett & Glenn Jackson

WESTS Tigers back-rower Simon Dwyer will today come under scrutiny for his controversial hit on Jared Waerea-Hargreaves - and he has received some unlikely support in the form of the man who was knocked out by his challenge.

Despite claims the tackle should have been penalised, which would likely have won the match for the Roosters before the epic encounter went into golden-point extra time, Waerea-Hargreaves described it simply as a ''good hit''.

Waerea-Hargreaves needed 10 staples in his chin from an earlier incident, not the 80th-minute Dwyer hit. The back-rower was concussed by Dwyer's contact, and played no further role in the game.

He later said the tackle was legal. ''I was filthy when they took me off but they said, 'You couldn't even hold a sentence together','' Waerea-Hargreaves said yesterday. ''I thought it was a clean, legit tackle. Hats off to him - he got me a beauty.

''All my roommates were telling me, 'That's the biggest hit of the year'. I was going, 'Don't tell me that'.''

Still, the NRL match review committee will scrutinise the tackle, which led to the scrum which the Roosters won against the head in the dying seconds of regulation time. There have been suggestions Dwyer could be handed a grade-two high-tackle charge, which could add to the Tigers' list of unavailable players.

Second-rower Gareth Ellis also faces a suspension after being placed on report for a high tackle on Roosters five-eighth Todd Carney.

The Dwyer hit, though, is likely to be of most interest. It might place the NRL in a precarious position, too. If the match review committee sees fit to charge him, the referees group will be further embarrassed - video referee Steve Clark ruled for a scrum despite reviewing replays of the incident.

Dwyer's shoulder appeared to make contact with Waerea-Hargreaves's chin, although there were claims the Roosters player was falling. While not even a grade-two would automatically lead to a suspension, that the tackle was serious enough to be awarded a grading will be proof that Dwyer should have been penalised - giving the Roosters a win they subsequently claimed anyway, but without the fatigue of a 20-minute period of extra time.

That extra match time could hamper both teams, who will both have to back up this weekend.

The Tigers have been pitted against the in-form Raiders in Canberra on Friday night, while the Roosters will play Penrith on Saturday at the SFS.
 
That's pretty decent of him (JWH) to be honest. Outside of football he's an alright guy, he just seems to flick a switch every time he gets on the field and become some hectic nutcase.

Hopefully Dywer and Ellis escape suspension, we're going to need everyone against Canberra's monster pack.
 
To his credit, JWH said on Fox that he didn't think it was high, just a great shot.
He does niggle, but at least he can cop the hit of the century and not cry about it.
 
Hargreaves has always been a very nice guy.

Absolutely nothing wrong with the way he plays. Agression is awesome unless you're a little dimwit like Ennis.
 
Hopefully Dwyer isn't cited for what was one of the best hits of the season. And if he is, hopefully Hargreaves gives evidence for him, applauding what a great shot it was.
 
@redemption said:
@Marshall_magic said:
He hit him high, but JWH fell into the tackle. I would have hated to have lost the game because of that hit (because he fell into it) but he got him on the chin. Not report worthy though, glad they didn't call it back.

bollocks - I'm glad you're not my lawyer!

the initial contact was beneath the kneck-head!

and he never fell into the tackle - he went down in the impact of the tackle and copped a secondary shoulder on the chin after the initial chest impact!

Can't remember anyone ever being suspended for a front on tackle that did not involve the use of the arm or the point of the shoulder. It's a non event and a fair cop, given that Jared WH decided early in the piece that Dwyer was going to be his 'bunny'. Bad selection Jared :laughing:
 
I honestly thought JWH was a massive pest all game. But you can't underestimate how decent it was of him to come out and say this.

Good on him!
 
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