OFFICIAL Simon Dwyer [Discussion]
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Penalty, I had no probs with it.
I thought the refs had a good game, I can think of two errors made but if my memory is right, it didnt cost us.
The first, Galloway's late shot when he barely brushed the kicker.
The second, Canberra were on the attack early in the second half, I think it was Shillington who lost it in the tackle yet no one including channel 9 picked up on it.
I thought the refs had a good game, I can think of two errors made but if my memory is right, it didnt cost us.
The first, Galloway's late shot when he barely brushed the kicker.
The second, Canberra were on the attack early in the second half, I think it was Shillington who lost it in the tackle yet no one including channel 9 picked up on it.
citizen_cub
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He did clock him in the face. I can see the logic in the penalty, Dwyer has to calm down sometimes, his aggression and enthusiasm is great, but sometimes he has to control it. Same thing with Warea-Hargreaves last week, splendid tackle but just a couple of centimetres higher and Roosters would have won before the full time bell. I can see this boy improving in the years to come, once he gets some experience under his belt, he'll cut these high tackles out of his game.
Barb calm down ….pfffft
He is too nice....The tackle was careless nothing to do with aggression...penalty sufficient..
If the nuffy Raymond and Snoz were calling for him to be sent ...that tells ya everything...
He is too nice....The tackle was careless nothing to do with aggression...penalty sufficient..
If the nuffy Raymond and Snoz were calling for him to be sent ...that tells ya everything...
shiretiger
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Stupid decision by the men in pink. Dwyer hit him waist high off the ground. What was he supposed to do in the fraction of a second when instead of finding the opposition players waist in that point in space [which was there a moment ago] but he found his head because a teammate had tackled the player? Levitate or something? You cant defy the laws of gravity.
As stupid as the Ellis one the week before.
As stupid as the Ellis one the week before.
shiretiger
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@Allan Towle said:
and that is the problem. The contact was an accident outside of his control. How can that be penalised?
ps sorry for being worse than one eyed.
@shiretiger said:
How?
Its called, lifes a [This word has been automatically removed]
jirskyr
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GOD OF FOOTBALL!
tig_prmz
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The big thing is Dwyer was very fast for a man his size. I can't believe he actually got their in time to make the tackle. As for the tackle, I have no idea what the rule book says about head high contact when the guy is falling down but it's been a penalty for the whole year and will be forever.
william_rodgers
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I think there was a knock on from dummy half in the first set of six but no one saw it either & the raiders were im their own half, not to mention the ball passed from over the touch line or as gus gould said the 10th row in the grand stand.
kill_em_all_tigers
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@stryker said:
actually it was gibbo & boz that helped the goal to be missed. apparently they were giving croker a good sledging, of which croker supposedly admitted after the game that it had worked.
classic stuff.
From The Australian:
JOHN Jacobs can tell you all you need to know about Wests Tigers youngster Simon Dwyer.
"I really hope he makes it because you will never ever get a phone call about this kid acting up," Jacobs said.
"He is a very, very good human being. He's good to his family. He is a quiet, unassuming person. He is a no-frills, no-nonsense kid.
"He will never, ever bring the game or the club into disrepute. That's the type of person he is."
Since the 1980s, Jacobs, a former Western Suburbs lower-grade coach, has provided jobs for young players at his industrial fastening company.
Three years ago Dwyer, then a promising teenager in the Tigers system, started working with Jacobs.
"Macca (Tigers recruitment manager Warren McDonnell) rang me and said have you got a spot there?" Jacobs said.
"When Simon could work, Simon was there. When Simon had to have time off for training it was never an issue.
"When he said to me he had been offered a contract in the top 25, which meant he would train full-time and wouldn't be able to work, he thanked me for the opportunity I gave him.
"I said, 'You're right, if Western Suburbs do well, that will be enough for me'. He was the ideal employee.
"I just think he will make it. He won't be back working for us."
Jacobs' faith seems well-placed. After playing two games last season, Dwyer has been a fixture in the Tigers side this year.
This week, the 21-year-old became an internet sensation for his bone-rattling tackle on Sydney Roosters forward Jared Waerea-Hargreaves last weekend at the Sydney Football Stadium.
By yesterday, the tackle had received more than 57,000 hits. Not bad considering Dwyer is more renowned for his attacking ability than his jarring defence.
"He's a big, strong kid who has grown into his body," McDonnell said.
"He's learning the game and getting better each week, and he's improving his game every time.
"He doesn't know how big and strong he can be. He is just realising it now. He is quiet but he is coming out of his shell. Give him a couple of years and he's going to be something."
You wouldn't expect any less given Dwyer's background. The Western Suburbs junior hails from Macquarie Fields, a struggling suburb in Sydney's southwest that made headline news in 2005 when it was the scene of riots.
Its reputation hasn't improved, yet Dwyer finished school in the area and still lives at home with his parents.
"Simon went to Year 12," Jacobs said. "That's an achievement when you read all the s**t about Macquarie Fields."
Jacobs has taken as much pride as anyone in what Dwyer has achieved this year. The only thing that would broaden his smile would be to see Dwyer and the Tigers in a grand final.
"Everyone is going over this one tackle. This kid is one of the best attacking players you will come across. Simon has raw, natural ability," Jacobs said.
"Simon is not a bighead. He wants to do well for himself and his family."
JOHN Jacobs can tell you all you need to know about Wests Tigers youngster Simon Dwyer.
"I really hope he makes it because you will never ever get a phone call about this kid acting up," Jacobs said.
"He is a very, very good human being. He's good to his family. He is a quiet, unassuming person. He is a no-frills, no-nonsense kid.
"He will never, ever bring the game or the club into disrepute. That's the type of person he is."
Since the 1980s, Jacobs, a former Western Suburbs lower-grade coach, has provided jobs for young players at his industrial fastening company.
Three years ago Dwyer, then a promising teenager in the Tigers system, started working with Jacobs.
"Macca (Tigers recruitment manager Warren McDonnell) rang me and said have you got a spot there?" Jacobs said.
"When Simon could work, Simon was there. When Simon had to have time off for training it was never an issue.
"When he said to me he had been offered a contract in the top 25, which meant he would train full-time and wouldn't be able to work, he thanked me for the opportunity I gave him.
"I said, 'You're right, if Western Suburbs do well, that will be enough for me'. He was the ideal employee.
"I just think he will make it. He won't be back working for us."
Jacobs' faith seems well-placed. After playing two games last season, Dwyer has been a fixture in the Tigers side this year.
This week, the 21-year-old became an internet sensation for his bone-rattling tackle on Sydney Roosters forward Jared Waerea-Hargreaves last weekend at the Sydney Football Stadium.
By yesterday, the tackle had received more than 57,000 hits. Not bad considering Dwyer is more renowned for his attacking ability than his jarring defence.
"He's a big, strong kid who has grown into his body," McDonnell said.
"He's learning the game and getting better each week, and he's improving his game every time.
"He doesn't know how big and strong he can be. He is just realising it now. He is quiet but he is coming out of his shell. Give him a couple of years and he's going to be something."
You wouldn't expect any less given Dwyer's background. The Western Suburbs junior hails from Macquarie Fields, a struggling suburb in Sydney's southwest that made headline news in 2005 when it was the scene of riots.
Its reputation hasn't improved, yet Dwyer finished school in the area and still lives at home with his parents.
"Simon went to Year 12," Jacobs said. "That's an achievement when you read all the s**t about Macquarie Fields."
Jacobs has taken as much pride as anyone in what Dwyer has achieved this year. The only thing that would broaden his smile would be to see Dwyer and the Tigers in a grand final.
"Everyone is going over this one tackle. This kid is one of the best attacking players you will come across. Simon has raw, natural ability," Jacobs said.
"Simon is not a bighead. He wants to do well for himself and his family."
From the Telegraph, not sure if its been posted already:
HIS big boy puts on the big hits, but Paul Dwyer owns all the memories.
The NRL world has been abuzz with excitement since Simon Dwyer's unforgettable bell-ringer on Jared Waerea-Hargreaves last Saturday night, but his father knew about the 21-year-old's lethal shoulder long beforehand.
"If you look on the internet, I've even put a few hits from his time in the lower grades on YouTube," says Paul, who also coached Dwyer for five straight seasons at the Ingleburn Bulldogs as a teenager.
We dutifully fire up the search engine and there, indeed, is a young behemoth in a Wests Magpies jersey belting the tripe out of a hapless ball-carrier.
"He's done it a few times - hits like that were trademark ever since he was allowed to shoulder charge in the under-15s," Paul continues.
"I spoke to him before [the Roosters] game and mentioned the word 'intensity'.
"I'm still so proud that he went out there and put on a hit like that at such a crucial stage of the game.
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"I've probably watched it 200 times! It's even on my phone."
Ironically enough - given tonight's lime green opposition - the Tigers back-rower was inspired to play football by Raiders great Laurie Daley.
"Simon loved Laurie and Mal Meninga," Paul reveals.
"There's still a poster of Laurie here on the wall at home.
"He actually started playing at five-eighth and then moved to the centres. And he played a lot like Laurie. He was a warhorse. He'd never give up. He also had incredible pace for a big man."
Dwyer is Ingleburn's first NRL graduate.
"The Wests Tigers have been a dream bringing him through."
HIS big boy puts on the big hits, but Paul Dwyer owns all the memories.
The NRL world has been abuzz with excitement since Simon Dwyer's unforgettable bell-ringer on Jared Waerea-Hargreaves last Saturday night, but his father knew about the 21-year-old's lethal shoulder long beforehand.
"If you look on the internet, I've even put a few hits from his time in the lower grades on YouTube," says Paul, who also coached Dwyer for five straight seasons at the Ingleburn Bulldogs as a teenager.
We dutifully fire up the search engine and there, indeed, is a young behemoth in a Wests Magpies jersey belting the tripe out of a hapless ball-carrier.
"He's done it a few times - hits like that were trademark ever since he was allowed to shoulder charge in the under-15s," Paul continues.
"I spoke to him before [the Roosters] game and mentioned the word 'intensity'.
"I'm still so proud that he went out there and put on a hit like that at such a crucial stage of the game.
Download YouTube Video
"I've probably watched it 200 times! It's even on my phone."
Ironically enough - given tonight's lime green opposition - the Tigers back-rower was inspired to play football by Raiders great Laurie Daley.
"Simon loved Laurie and Mal Meninga," Paul reveals.
"There's still a poster of Laurie here on the wall at home.
"He actually started playing at five-eighth and then moved to the centres. And he played a lot like Laurie. He was a warhorse. He'd never give up. He also had incredible pace for a big man."
Dwyer is Ingleburn's first NRL graduate.
"The Wests Tigers have been a dream bringing him through."
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