SINGLING OUT PLAYERS WHEN WE LOSE

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tigergirlz

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IMO the whole team lacked direction, mongrel, enthusiasm etc. There weren't many who would walk off feeling proud of their efforts tonight.
However, I am starting to get a bit tired of the crucifixion (maybe a good time of year to use this word) of individual players when we lose.
Sure, criticise mistakes, but don't believe that individuals lose us games. :rant
 
Good post! Yes, it is the team that wins or loses a game and the team effort just hasn't been there in the past couple of weeks.
 
Yeah that was a team effort loss…2 weeks ago EVERYONE was on fire.

It's amazing how quickly this side can fall in a heap. They can be spectacularly bad sometimes....
 
I wonder what Sheens said to the boys before the game? he was shown having a sit down with Farah, Marshal, Lui and Moltzen. What was his strategy? Did they follow his plans?

IMO those guys were very disappointing in the first 40
 
yes good post …. once again RUGBY LEAGUE WAS THE WINNER ... great game ,,,,,\
thats what you tell your unders 6s just after they have been mercied ....moltzens drop was the start of the rot....
 
Read the opening post in "Did Benji Play Tonight" and tell me that isn't a bit of rubbish crucifixion. Yes he was quiet - no doubt, but some of that comment is useless. Yes I will vote 3-2-1 etc, and criticise errors, but some personal slanging, like that about Moltzen (and no doubt Ryan, but I haven't read that stuff yet) - no
 
I have no idea what's going wrong. Are Sheens' plans not working out or are they just not following them? It seems like the plans are good but the execution is just poor. It's like Benji and Farah know what to do on the 4th, 5th tackle but they just try to kill time until that.

Also, sometimes two guys know what they wanna do but others around them don't and it all turns into a mish-mash. I clearly have no idea what goes on off field but they always seem confident at the start of the game.
 
@tigergirlz said:
IMO the whole team lacked direction, mongrel, enthusiasm etc. There weren't many who would walk off feeling proud of their efforts tonight.
However, I am starting to get a bit tired of the crucifixion (maybe a good time of year to use this word) of individual players when we lose.
Sure, criticise mistakes, but don't believe that individuals lose us games. :rant
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That's right Those poor players . Paid on average 3 times as much as average income and they get to do what they love week in week out . If they don't play well thats whats coming unfortunately sorry . When I have a bad day at work I have to hear about it from staff and customers Why can't they . They are endangered species they are a team that was 2nd favourite to win the comp a few weeks ago and if they like that week in week out they will lose a lot of games this year .No excuses anymore These big head big names need to stand up and lead this team properly not play like badly organized rabble
 
sorry there big boys toughen up beau ryan should stick to being a clown and give up footy and our coach makeing moltzen fullback two weeks running great stuff
 
@tigergirlz said:
IMO the whole team lacked direction, mongrel, enthusiasm etc. There weren't many who would walk off feeling proud of their efforts tonight.
However, I am starting to get a bit tired of the crucifixion (maybe a good time of year to use this word) of individual players when we lose.
Sure, criticise mistakes, but don't believe that individuals lose us games. :rant
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**2nd grade mistakes by 1st grade footballers brings the team down.**…Tonight I saw many 2nd grade mistakes that sapped the confidence, direction and enthusiasm out of the team!...and it started when Moltzen failed to contest the high ball that led to their first try....same thing happened last week when he failed to content the bomb and the ball bounced for a try...we are a confidence team and when we lose that we lose the game...So I take your point but when certain players make 2nd grade errors they should cop it here on the forum!
 
Toughen up boys and stop crying ,some off you should give your money back ,take the critisism like a man dont be so presures
 
@alexaki said:
@tigergirlz said:
IMO the whole team lacked direction, mongrel, enthusiasm etc. There weren't many who would walk off feeling proud of their efforts tonight.
However, I am starting to get a bit tired of the crucifixion (maybe a good time of year to use this word) of individual players when we lose.
Sure, criticise mistakes, but don't believe that individuals lose us games. :rant

**2nd grade mistakes by 1st grade footballers brings the team down.**…Tonight I saw many 2nd grade mistakes that sapped the confidence, direction and enthusiasm out of the team!...and it started when Moltzen failed to contest the high ball that led to their first try....same thing happened last week when he failed to content the bomb and the ball bounced for a try...we are a confidence team and when we lose that we lose the game...So I take your point but when certain players make 2nd grade errors they should cop it here on the forum!
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x2 exactly right Both games we have been in and the Moltzen can't even try and make a play at first bomb He obviously has some photos of Sheens in a compromised position Maybe with Fitzhenry ???
 
I'm not gonna single anyone out of the team, because I'm sure plenty of other people will after tonights performance, but when u get paid to do something, and pretty decent to, atleast have a go. That first half was poor. No passion and no guts!! 20,000 fans pay their cash, and spend their time to support you. Atleast have a dig. When we dont contest high balls and shirt grab, thats a joke!! Win lose or draw I don't care but put your bodies on the line!!!

Second half was so much better, but the refs deadest had it on for us!! Not blaming them, but they didn't help!!
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@tigergirlz said:
Read the opening post in "Did Benji Play Tonight" and tell me that isn't a bit of rubbish crucifixion. Yes he was quiet - no doubt, but some of that comment is useless. Yes I will vote 3-2-1 etc, and criticise errors, but some personal slanging, like that about Moltzen (and no doubt Ryan, but I haven't read that stuff yet) - no
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If you did something wrong at work i am sure you boss would have you in his office ,so say it as it is dont beat around the bush stand up and be counted ,stop pussy foot around the problems ,Sheens is part of the problem same stuff every year
 
Here are some comments I just read:
Moltzen is a cat
Worst winger in the comp (and something about an iron lung)
Been crap all year (Robbie)
Criticism?? Not in my eyes. Personal attacks?? more like it.
If I did something wrong and my boss used comments like that I doubt I'd even know what the hell he/she meant.
Perhaps non-Tiger supporters make comments on this forum?
 
@tigergirlz said:
Here are some comments I just read:
Moltzen is a cat
Worst winger in the comp (and something about an iron lung)
Been crap all year (Robbie)
Criticism?? Not in my eyes. Personal attacks?? more like it.
If I did something wrong and my boss used comments like that I doubt I'd even know what the hell he/she meant.
Perhaps non-Tiger supporters make comments on this forum?
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I have to agree with you tigergirlz
 
@Mothermagpie said:
@tigergirlz said:
Here are some comments I just read:
Moltzen is a cat
Worst winger in the comp (and something about an iron lung)
Been crap all year (Robbie)
Criticism?? Not in my eyes. Personal attacks?? more like it.
If I did something wrong and my boss used comments like that I doubt I'd even know what the hell he/she meant.
Perhaps non-Tiger supporters make comments on this forum?

I have to agree with you tigergirlz
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it is a fine line isn't it
- i don't believe moltzen is a cat but do believe he is lacking confidence and playing out of position
- i believe we have better options that ryan on the wing and that he wouldn't play if we were full strength
- i know farah has been quiet but also know that he is playing with both groin and hip injuries

its when we get emotional after a couple of losses do the comments become a bit more 'personal'
 
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