Stefano Utoikamanu #241

[426Tlgerland]

4 million reasons to stay at the tigers and setup his future.

He hasn’t got it in him to be a leader
family / Sydney / Religion / Money
that’s his drivers , footy is after all of the above
leaders eat and breath footy sis by side with family

 

[watersider]

TBF, I can’t be angry at anyone doing what they think is right for themselves.

But one thing I will point out. $800k+ is for the elite, that dominate other forwards By thenmsleves. (Example is fonua Blake on the weekend).

Stef has potential, currently he isn’t even the best forward in our pack, let alone dominating regularly.

I would love to keep him. I also see that that Money is paying on potential. Which has also burnt us in the past.

As the days go by, I am more comfortable with the possibility of stef moving on for an easier route to finals. (Rather than being a big reason we change our fortunes).

Yep, well said. A lot of insults directed at him but he has every right to negotiate and leave. I don't think we should make it personal. He's done his time for us and now he's apparently off, fair enough.

My concern with him is simply that he's not worth 800k a year and 5 years would tie us to that gamble in a way that severely limits us.

If it's that contract or him leaving, I'd prefer he left. We've seen what he can produce for us, whatever the circumstances, and it's not worth that contract.

If I were Stefano I'd go to Melbourne, sounds like a great contract and the opportunity to work for Bellamy (even if only for a year) at an always successful club.

 

[Bellend]

If Stef was serious about his football then he would go to Melbourne.

This has dragged on for far to long pull the deal see ya Stef.

 

[Furious1]

Someone mentioned Spencer Leniu looking to sign 3 year 800k per year deal with Roosters. IF that’s correct, then compare the pair, which one at that money would you prefer?

 

[simonsatiger]

gone official

 

[mtd#2]

gone official

Im torn about this
Personally I think he's an idiot walking away after sticking it out through the tough times.. same time I also think he's over valued.

I'd play him in reserve grade the rest or the season and blood someone

 

[Tcat]

gone official

If true. No one's gonna be surprised and i wont be that upset. There's been zero talk or rumours of him looking to extend with us. He's a prop and although nothing crazy around atm, more young guns will come around.

 

[Krammy]

On the last couple of year's form, I would not put Stef in the top dozen front rowers in the comp. It's quite easy to find 12 who have performed, or who just are, so much better: JWH, Haas, JFH, Moses Leota, Tapine, Tino F, AFB, Reuben Cotter, Jesse Bromwich, Lindsay Collins, Terrell May, Spencer Lenui. If coaches like Bellamy want him then he must have potential, but currently he is not showing anywhere near what a $800K prop should be providing.

 

[Fraze23]

Gone. Don't blame the guy. But I'm glad we didn't re-sign him on the money we were offering. He was never going to solve our problems.

 

[InBulaWeTrust]

Good! But we now have a war chest with too much money and no one good to sign, with no spaces in our top 30. Yikes

 

[Milky]

Good riddance

Overpaid on potential. Should be leading our pack but hasn’t made a dent.

He and Bateman gone is a good few steps towards the right direction.

Hopefully we can pick up someone decent for half the price

 

[old_man_tiger]

Good luck to him. Most of my anger has worn off because of two reasons. Firstly, we really suck. Secondly, he hasn't looked like a 500k player for some time, let alone 800k. No matter what he goes on to achieve he isn't going to be part of leading a change in our pack's attitude, and that is abundantly clear.

 

[mtd#2]

Can we cut him clean now? Or are we forced to play him in Reggie's cause he's contracted.

Maybe we could ask him to give up the last portion of 2024 contract as good will (the same way we let him explore early)..

He's a good Mormon so surely he should beleive in doing the right thing.

 

[Kaito]

Thinks he is better than he is. Getting touched up
by Blore & Loiero spoke volumes. Woods 2.0 smh

 

[mtd#2]

Thinks he is better than he is. Getting touched up
by Blore & Loiero spoke volumes. Woods 2.0

It stood out how far behind the pack he is against the warriors. It was one of his better games all yesr and he was completely out done by the warriors props.

 

[Kaito]

Captain of the club one day, leader of the pack blah,
blah. He's been coerced by others around him. Penny
will drop soon for him. We now have 2.5m and guys
will be squeezed out of the cap at other clubs. This
is great news I'm actually very happy he's not staying

 

[hsvjones]

I think Richo gave him a deadline as it's strange it comes out already.

Great news and we can focus on other players now.

Extend Pole should be the first thing

 

[Moh]

Captain of the club one day, leader of the pack blah,
blah. He's been coerced by others around him. Penny
will drop soon for him. We now have 2.5m and guys
will be squeezed out of the cap at other clubs. This
is great news I'm actually very happy he's not staying

Yah, nice - players lining up to come here. Especially when a big part of our team has no faith in what's happening here.

Big blow, on perception if nothing else.

 

[davey_farrell]

dont let the door hit you on the way out stephanie!! At least we have some money to upgrade Pole and another roster spot, i wouldnt mind Hetherington and the ranga Horsberiegh from the Raiders

 

[mtd#2]

Yah, nice - players lining up to come here. Especially when a big part of our team has no faith in what's happening here.

Big blow, on perception if nothing else.

I disagree.

If you go back and watch the Luai interview as to why he's coming here, there are QUALITY players who believe they can turn the club around.... and WILL.

Stef just had no interest in being part of it with his boys... happy to jump ship for the 2nd time in 3 years (I think?)..