Stefano Utoikamanu #241

@twentyforty said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1112753) said:
“Stefano Utoikamanu is doing this as much for his brother as for himself.”

No mention of Eels treatment of Stef’s brother? Does anyone know what that’s all about?

He was training really hard and then he was told he wouldn’t be able to play rugby league again. It’s pretty tough.

“He broke his neck and one of the arteries got cut off, so there’s only one artery that was pumping blood to his brain, and when something happens to that it’s no good.

“Mentally, it was a big shock because he took rugby league for granted as well. It’s tough when somebody tells you you can’t do something you love.

“It’s a big motivation for me. I know he wanted to be here. It’s good for me, to be playing for him. That’s very big for me.”

Apparently family not happy with the way the injury was treated.
 
@TillLindemann said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1112482) said:
Parra won't make the 8, let alone be premiership contenders.

How much are you willing to lose?
Parra will make the 8 for sure, don't let your dislike for them cloud your judgement.
 
It’s clear to me the Eels are trying to get 5his kid to cancel/walk out on the Tigers from next year.
They have elevated him to to top 30, they got Fittler to talk him up as a SOO prospect, now they get the Tele to do a story on him for the 9’s as THE player to watch..seeing his quotes how comfortable he is staying at the Eels for 2020.....it all points to what I suspect....watch this space....
 
@tigerap said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116158) said:
It’s clear to me the Eels are trying to get 5his kid to cancel/walk out on the Tigers from next year.
They have elevated him to to top 30, they got Fittler to talk him up as a SOO prospect, now they get the Tele to do a story on him for the 9’s as THE player to watch..seeing his quotes how comfortable he is staying at the Eels for 2020.....it all points to what I suspect....watch this space....

Don’t forget he asked for a release for this year. He preferred to be here than at Eels. Only accepted the top 30 spot because he knew he wasn’t going elsewhere. He’ll be in our colours come next year.
 
This is why the Tigers have released the SIGNING announcement twice.

NRL needs to take notice of this, There would be blood in street if Titans tried to get Arrow to stay.. Same should be for Eels
 
@JoshColeman99 said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116159) said:
@tigerap said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116158) said:
It’s clear to me the Eels are trying to get 5his kid to cancel/walk out on the Tigers from next year.
They have elevated him to to top 30, they got Fittler to talk him up as a SOO prospect, now they get the Tele to do a story on him for the 9’s as THE player to watch..seeing his quotes how comfortable he is staying at the Eels for 2020.....it all points to what I suspect....watch this space....

Don’t forget he asked for a release for this year. He preferred to be here than at Eels. Only accepted the top 30 spot because he knew he wasn’t going elsewhere. He’ll be in our colours come next year.

Wish I had your confidence....don’t trust those Dogs, especially Brad Arthur...hope you are right though
 
"the subject of a tug-of-war between two rival NRL clubs" - what rubbish - he is at parra this year then WT from 2021 - where is the tug o war - sloppy journalism trying to sensationalise a non story.
 
He'll be going NOWHERE WT's have him signed sealed and to be delivered in 2021 and a lot of cash would have to change hands from Parra to WT's
 
@Elderslie_Tiger said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116166) said:
He'll be going NOWHERE WT's have him signed sealed and to be delivered in 2021 and a lot of cash would have to change hands from Parra to WT's


If all it took was a lot of cash to keep him, we all know how underhanded those scum bags are with cash....
 
@tigerap said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116162) said:
@JoshColeman99 said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116159) said:
@tigerap said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116158) said:
It’s clear to me the Eels are trying to get 5his kid to cancel/walk out on the Tigers from next year.
They have elevated him to to top 30, they got Fittler to talk him up as a SOO prospect, now they get the Tele to do a story on him for the 9’s as THE player to watch..seeing his quotes how comfortable he is staying at the Eels for 2020.....it all points to what I suspect....watch this space....

Don’t forget he asked for a release for this year. He preferred to be here than at Eels. Only accepted the top 30 spot because he knew he wasn’t going elsewhere. He’ll be in our colours come next year.

Wish I had your confidence....don’t trust those Dogs, especially Brad Arthur...hope you are right though

Look what they done with Moses and Matterson, if they haven’t already they will try to get him to renege
 
@hammertime said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116170) said:
That's all good. We have a contract. I don't think we'll let someone walk again like Matto.

Who knows what will happen, but there's definitely a chance he'll stay at the Eels. It's one thing to talk tough but if he turns around and says "i don't want to join you" then it's going to be tough to enforce.
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116173) said:
@hammertime said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116170) said:
That's all good. We have a contract. I don't think we'll let someone walk again like Matto.

Who knows what will happen, but there's definitely a chance he'll stay at the Eels. It's one thing to talk tough but if he turns around and says "i don't want to join you" then it's going to be tough to enforce.

If that happens, we won't have a leg to stand on. We can't force him to come to us, all we could do is demand some sort of compensation from Eels, which they wouldn't pay.

Someone said this earlier and I think they are right, we have to keep good with his family, keep in touch with him, now and throughout the year. Make it so he knows how he will be welcomed. See what we can do for his brother. Do as much of that stuff as we can, then we should be safe in retaining him.
 
he obviously would have strong feelings for his brother...and thats a significant injury his bro recieved...

eels didnt treat the situation according and as a result Stefano now has some sort of dislike towards the club..that wont just go away
 
Let’s not crucify him just yet. So far, there’s no reason why he won’t be here.

One of my earliest footy memories was hearing Jim Serdaris wanting out of Wests after they signed him from the Dogs. He was held to it though. How times change.
 
@TheDaBoss said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116175) said:
he obviously would have strong feelings for his brother...and thats a significant injury his bro recieved...

eels didnt treat the situation according and as a result Stefano now has some sort of dislike towards the club..that wont just go away

He's probably only still there because he was contracted and what Parra do within that contract is their problem everyone relax and await the arrival of a first grade football that we do have to blood.
 
Moses and Matterson were Eels juniors. Stef is a WT junior.

I reckon that’s why we didn’t fight hard for those two? It’s different, this time it’s personal!
 
@avocadoontoast said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116173) said:
@hammertime said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116170) said:
That's all good. We have a contract. I don't think we'll let someone walk again like Matto.

Who knows what will happen, but there's definitely a chance he'll stay at the Eels. It's one thing to talk tough but if he turns around and says "i don't want to join you" then it's going to be tough to enforce.

I'm not sure if this comment is made in hope or in expectation but, after Matterson and Moses, WT can't afford to let another player they want to keep walk away from a contract. If they do, no future signing would ever be secure. It's a long while since I did contract law but, if it's a binding contract, my recollection is WT could sue for specific performance i.e make Stefano come to WT. They would have to ignore any claims about player welfare e.g Moses and stick to their guns by insisting Stefano fulfils his contract. They could also have a look at whether Parra have done anything to induce Stefano to breach his contract and take appropriate action against them.
 
@twentyforty said in [Official \- Wests Tigers Sign Stefano Utoikamanu](/post/1116178) said:
Moses and Matterson were Eels juniors. Stef is a WT junior.

I reckon that’s why we didn’t fight hard for those two? It’s different, this time it’s personal!

Cabra Two Blues are in the WT jnr's...?
 

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