Sunday afternoon footy at Leichhardt Oval snubbed

@GNR4LIFE said:
@Ed Reschs said:
Where were all you whingers last season when campbelltown got 2 Monday night games. About time we got a couple of decent games out where the future lies. Suck it up ladies
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I think its more of a case where some people for reasons known only to them enjoyed sticking the boot into the crowd figures at C-town without actually looking at it objectively and taking into account what Smeg mentioned (I'll add to that one of those games was against the Cowboys who attract zero support in Sydney yet the match drew 15 thousand, yet some still weren't satisfied). Like i've said already, the anticipation for Round 1, sunday arvo at Leichardt this yr was off the page, i really hope Round 2, our first home game of the yr in 2013 can attract similar excitement being our first home game at one of our traditional home grounds and being a local derby. Lets pack the joint out

There was some massive over reactions about CSS crowds last year.

The crowds they got were as expected given opposition and time slots.

In terms of dollars for the club we got a pretty decent draw with a lot of FTA games. If we are going to play friday night the city grounds are favourable for most (especially opposition and neutral fans)

A sunday game at CSS is prob over due as well.

The draw is never perfect for any club (except the broncoes) but there is as much positive as negative here
 
It's all good.
Win enough games and we get to the big end of season games.

Whether we play at Campbelltown, Leichhardt, Birchgrove Oval or Pratten Park …
The only game that really matters is played out the back of Homebush somewhere.
The rest are just prelims undertaken on expanses of rogue grass with accompanying painted lines (Dulux markings usually imparted by using a fascinating one wheeled contraption that invariably goes about it's work with a squeak)
 
http://www.dailytelegraph.com.au/sport/nrl/end-nears-for-suburban-nrl-grounds/story-e6frexnr-1226524122584

THE days of watching NRL matches at Sydney's traditional old suburban grounds are numbered.

A state government report yesterday revealed that funding was financially unsustainable for all Sydney-based clubs, virtually ruling out future funding for some of the city's most historic venues that have been hosting rugby league for more than 70 years.

Brookvale Oval, Campbelltown Stadium, Toyota Stadium, Kogarah Oval, Leichhardt Oval and Penrith Stadium will be most affected.

Under a stadia strategy released by sports minister Graham Annesley, the government will instead invest in major venues including ANZ Stadium, Allianz Stadium and other government-owned grounds including Parramatta Stadium, Hunter Sports Stadium and Wollongong Stadium. A 30,000-seat stadium in Sydney's west, possibly at an existing venue, is also under consideration.

The government wants Sydney clubs to adopt the Melbourne model that led to AFL clubs dumping their suburban home grounds from the late 1980s to share Etihad Stadium and the MCG. In Sydney, nine NRL clubs play out of nine venues.

NRL 2013: Start planning your year by club, by round or by venue with our interactive 2013 season draw

"Review of stadia has identified the number of current venues requiring ongoing maintenance and or upgrading is financially unsustainable." Annesley said in the report. "Stakeholders suggested there are too many Tier 2 stadia in Greater Sydney, and the present decentralised approach leads to under-utilisation of venues."

Sydney venues classified as Tier 2 are Brookvale Oval, Campbelltown Stadium, Toyota Stadium, Kogarah Oval, Leichhardt Oval, Penrith Stadium and Parramatta Stadium.

"Belief that the NSW government has an overriding responsibility to ensure all sporting infrastructure is maintained and upgraded is inaccurate."

The decision was met with anger from a number of officials.

"We've run into dead ends before and we're not going to give up," said Manly director and life member Peter Peters. "We have a handshake agreement with Tony Abbott that we'll get federal government support if he gets in. It's a tragedy that three quarters of a million people north of the Harbour Bridge don't have a boutique stadium at Brookvale. We have won premierships in every decade since the 1970s and our fans deserve it."

The report was critical of the previous government's sporting venues strategy.

Annesley said Sydney would lose big events to other cities if major venues were not up to scratch.

"The implementation of the Stadia Strategy is integral to ensuring NSW keeps pace with the evolution of sport both in Australia and around the globe," he said.

"Sport, as an industry, is a significant contributor to the NSW economy. Spectators today expect more from the match day experience. Sporting infrastructure established in the lead-up to the 200 Olympics is now ageing, and in coming years will need upgrading and in some cases replacing.

"The post-Olympic NSW government infrastructure investment strategy was at best ad hoc, with minimal consideration given to ensuring long-term sustainability."

The Wests Tigers were reluctant to comment. While Leichhardt Oval will miss out, the club is hopeful the government will look favourably at their existing ground in Campbelltown for a new 30,000 seat stadium in the west.

The Sharks were not overly concerned, according to chairman Damian Irvine.

"The difference is we own our own home ground," Irvine said.
 
So CO as our only home ground in the future ey? I could live with that. Especially if they build something like aami stadium with quality amenities and easy access to seats, entry and exits. Wests stadium ftw!
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Be great if they could re-develop C-town. The job they did in the late 90's was only half done. Hopefully they can rid of those ugly rock walls and build something similar to Parra Stadium or Newcastles stadium (whatever its called these days) with stands behind the goal posts. Would be awesome for the community and great for WT having a purpose built stadium built primarily for them
 
It'd be nice if they could get the capacity up to 35K-40K at CSS, as it is going to get to the point where we will need a stadium that size. They could even make a bid for Wanderers FC to play there full time to keep the stadium in use all year round.
 
Campbelltown will never have a 30k stadium. Doesn't need it, could never fill it anyway. Crowds have always been lowest at CSS compared to the other grounds so until they start packing the current ground they can source their own private funding if they want to expand CSS.

A rugby league team who plays a handful of games in a half-full stadium isn't exactly banging down the door for an upgrade.

You can understand the rationale behind the governments decision, but emtionally we are still connected to these grounds. And rugby league still needs these grounds as the fans prefer the,. and its one of the main unique points the nrl has in sydney. the community rivalries…
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Campbelltown will never have a 30k stadium. Doesn't need it, could never fill it anyway. Crowds have always been lowest at CSS compared to the other grounds so until they start packing the current ground they can source their own private funding if they want to expand CSS.

A rugby league team who plays a handful of games in a half-full stadium isn't exactly banging down the door for an upgrade.

You can understand the rationale behind the governments decision, but emtionally we are still connected to these grounds. And rugby league still needs these grounds as the fans prefer the,. and its one of the main unique points the nrl has in sydney. the community rivalries…

It's people like you that won't turn up to Campbelltown, that have this belief. Give it a go, it doesn't hurt. This area is the fastest growing in Australia. In the very near future, any political party would have to be stupid not to listen to the people of this city, and not give them an upgrade or even a new stadium. It will happen.
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@Balmain Boy said:
Campbelltown will never have a 30k stadium. Doesn't need it, could never fill it anyway. Crowds have always been lowest at CSS compared to the other grounds so until they start packing the current ground they can source their own private funding if they want to expand CSS.

A rugby league team who plays a handful of games in a half-full stadium isn't exactly banging down the door for an upgrade.

You can understand the rationale behind the governments decision, but emtionally we are still connected to these grounds. And rugby league still needs these grounds as the fans prefer the,. and its one of the main unique points the nrl has in sydney. the community rivalries…

Its pretty evident that Leichardt doesn't have long left. The question then is what to do once we no longer are playing there. are we going to play 6 each at Ctown and the SFS? or is that the time that we really cement ourselves in the south west? If there is a chance we could get a stadium of that size in our heartland, primarily for us, i have no idea why anyone would be against it like you seemingly are
 
@Balmain Boy said:
Campbelltown will never have a 30k stadium. Doesn't need it, could never fill it anyway. Crowds have always been lowest at CSS compared to the other grounds so until they start packing the current ground they can source their own private funding if they want to expand CSS.

A rugby league team who plays a handful of games in a half-full stadium isn't exactly banging down the door for an upgrade.

You can understand the rationale behind the governments decision, but emtionally we are still connected to these grounds. And rugby league still needs these grounds as the fans prefer the,. **and its one of the main unique points the nrl has in sydney. the community rivalries…**

Its also one thing thats working to our detriment
 
3 grounds is why our membership is so low when we are prob the most popular team in the NRL (merchandise, fan base etc) yet can crack 10k members. The membership packages should allow fixed seating at SFS and general entry at LO/CSS

I can see 6 games at SFS + 6 Campbelltown in future with a WT trials + NSW cup at LO.

If balmain was still a stand alone nrl club i doubt they would (or could even afford) 12 games at LO in the modern day.
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@GNR4LIFE said:
@Balmain Boy said:
Campbelltown will never have a 30k stadium. Doesn't need it, could never fill it anyway. Crowds have always been lowest at CSS compared to the other grounds so until they start packing the current ground they can source their own private funding if they want to expand CSS.

A rugby league team who plays a handful of games in a half-full stadium isn't exactly banging down the door for an upgrade.

You can understand the rationale behind the governments decision, but emtionally we are still connected to these grounds. And rugby league still needs these grounds as the fans prefer the,. and its one of the main unique points the nrl has in sydney. the community rivalries…

Its pretty evident that Leichardt doesn't have long left. The question then is what to do once we no longer are playing there. are we going to play 6 each at Ctown and the SFS? or is that the time that we really cement ourselves in the south west? If there is a chance we could get a stadium of that size in our heartland, primarily for us, i have no idea why anyone watould be against it like you seemingly are

At this stage there is not enough corporate dollars in the south west of sydney to put all our eggs in one basket. I figure over time this may increase but feel we are decades away
 
It would be interesting if there were no games at Leicchardt.

im Assuming our supporter base would diminish remarkably.
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@simonthetiger said:
It would be interesting if there were no games at Leicchardt.

im Assuming our supporter base would diminish remarkably.
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Maybe, maybe not… Yes there will be an initial reaction, but realistically Moore Park isnt that hard to get to.

One thing is a certain though, I cant see the JV Partners agreeing to play all Home Games at CSS!
 
@Goose said:
At this stage there is not enough corporate dollars in the south west of sydney to put all our eggs in one basket. I figure over time this may increase but feel we are decades away

Correct. The south west will be a slow burn with regard to growth, but the announcement by the state government (ie: building a 30k stadium in Sydney's west) indicates to me they expect the south west to hold a significant proportion of Sydney's population. The area will continue to grow and Wests Tigers needs to retain its position in the area.

If Campbelltown does get expanded, I think we need a minimum of 6 games. Why? Because if we don't, someone else (eg: Dogs) will use it. The question is the other 6 games. IF (big if), Leichhardt is not viable, which I believe is still some time away, the immediate response is 6 games at the SFS, but there must be more options. Eg:

- 6 @ Homebush
- 6 @ Parramatta Stadium

Some big decisions to make for our club over the coming years. It feels to me that this announcement by the state government is the beginning of an inflection point for the game. I think the NRL wants all clubs playing in state of the art stadiums as it encourages families and younger fans to attend - would not surprise if they consulted in that manner to Annesley.

We are lucky in that our fan base is diversified across two large areas of Sydney and our club can make some very important and profitable decisions. Decisions that are unique to any other club (apart from the Dragons). The benefits of the tough calls in 1999 may now be coming in for us. Hopefully we don't stuff it up.
 
@simonthetiger said:
It would be interesting if there were no games at Leicchardt.

im Assuming our supporter base would diminish remarkably.

Rubbish. Support has increased despite dropping games at Leichhardt since 2004.
 
@simonthetiger said:
It would be interesting if there were no games at Leicchardt.

im Assuming our supporter base would diminish remarkably.
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You'll lose a few supporters, to say the supporter base would reduce markedly would be a little OTT. I would be a little saddened if there were no games at LO, but that's the price of progression. I would expect all games at LO to be at the SFS though, as we receive revenue to play there.
 
If all games were at Cambo i wouldnt be going.half at sfs and cambo a little better but i doubt i would go.

Im pretty sure a hefty chunk of our fans live in the city or not far off…i dont see any good coming out of taking games away from these supporters.
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