Tedesco to re-sign, Potter next

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Tedesco to re-sign, Potter next

By Matt Encarnacion, Western Sydney Correspondent
NRL.com
4:51pm Thu 05th June, 2014

Wests Tigers skipper Robbie Farah has warned his club to learn from the James Tedesco saga and move to re-sign coach Mick Potter.

Just a week after Tedesco agreed to a three-year contract with Canberra, the 21-year-old reneged on the deal before the June 30 deadline – the day the NRL officially registers contracts for the following season.

Farah today expressed his displeasure not only with the rule, but with his club for letting it reach a point where his teammate was forced to issue an apology to Canberra for the stunning switch.

"Obviously I'm disappointed in how it was handled. I think it definitely could've been handled a lot better. The only people that handled it the right way were the Canberra Raiders," Farah said on Thursday.

"We as a club need to learn the way from the way it was handled because a kid that wanted to stay here should never have been felt like he needed to leave. The whole time he wanted to stay.

"So there's no doubt it could've been handled a lot better and that's something as a club we need to be better at."

Tedesco came under-fire on social media on Wednesday night for his sudden change of heart but his club captain came to defence, saying his teammate hadn't broken any rules.

“The rule's there, it's happened before. It's not the first time it's happened, so he's well within his rights to do that," Farah said.

"And as I said, it happened last year [with Josh Papalii]. It's been going on for many years. Do I agree with the rule? Probably not. But it's there and in this case, it's worked out positively for us."

CEO Grant Mayer said one solution to yesterday's contract bungle was to delay the announcement of new signings until the June 30 deadline.

"I think the key is announcement," he said. "I think the rule maybe okay. From my point of view the rule is great today, so I can't say anything about it. From Canberra's perspective it's not a great rule. If you're going to do a deal, perhaps the announcement of that deal should be looked at.

"I don't think there's any perfect answer. I like the idea of a cooling off period and I guess round 13 is that cooling off period. I think there's got to be something. What the perfect solution is, I don't know, but at the end of the day, we've benefitted from the rule that was in play. I can only say it's great. I can certainly understand the disappointment from Canberra's point of view."

The imminent re-signing of Tedesco is a huge boost for a club that has also tied down the services of youngster Curtis Sironen and David Nofoaluma, as well as NSW prop Aaron Woods earlier this year.

All that's left now, Farah says, is for the club to show more commitment to off-contract coach Mick Potter, than it did to Tedesco. The former NSW fullback was reportedly 24 hours away from being punted in his first year as an NRL coach last season, but has overseen a thoroughly improved squad that is currently in the top eight.

"Obviously last year was a difficult year for him but I really think he's handled himself really well this year," Farah said.

"It shows the way we started and the way we're playing. And the development the young kids have made. So again, for everyone's sake, we need that sorted out."

Potter, who recently gained the services of veteran coach Brain Smith as consultant, said he was confident of earning an extension on his current deal.

"I think that's in the process, so I'd let that take care of itself. That'll be fine," he said.
 
The fact that the club was so cash strapped last yr that they couldn't afford to pay 3 coaches at once looks to be a blessing in disguise now. Ironic.
 
@innsaneink said:
Apparently Mayer doesn't rate him.

Thats why he's back.

LOL

Page 102 of the mega thread Ink

At least I apologized

Strange now that Robbie has questioned why it got to this stage
 
I think Mayer needs a better understanding of football, not just the books.

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@happy tiger said:
Strange now that Robbie has questioned why it got to this stage

I think he is just stating its not a good look and I agree with him. The thing is what could have been done better. Tedesco is a young kid who made a couple of mistakes. I'm not sure if the club really had anything to do with it as I think they offered him a really good offer. I assume his manager might have been a bad influence as well as certain players that he spoke too regarding the decision.

I really like the way Potter has handled the whole situation. My assessment is that he really likes Tedesco but he wasn't going to put too much pressure on him.
 
@stevetiger said:
@happy tiger said:
Strange now that Robbie has questioned why it got to this stage

I think he is just stating its not a good look and I agree with him. The thing is what could have been done better. Tedesco is a young kid who made a couple of mistakes. I'm not sure if the club really had anything to do with it as I think they offered him a really good offer. I assume his manager might have been a bad influence as well as certain players that he spoke too regarding the decision.

I really like the way Potter has handled the whole situation. My assessment is that he really likes Tedesco but he wasn't going to put too much pressure on him.

I just wonder how much sticking the time frame in place affected all this

It worked out in the end , but it could of quite easily backfired as well
 
Not exactly a glowing endoresement of our clubs management from Robbie is it ….. someone who has seen whats gone on from the inside. As he says ........ lets hope the club learns something.
 
James Tedesco broke down in tears over leaving Wests Tigers in an heart-to-heart with Robbie Farah

June 06, 2014 12:00AM
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Skipper Robbie Farah yesterday revealed the key role he played in Tedesco’s controversial decision to walk away from a $1.8 million deal with Canberra to sign a new three-year contract with the Tigers.

And it all started at Prato Cafe and Diner on Great North Road.

On Tuesday, Tigers assistant coach Todd Payten called Farah aside, the pair aware Tedesco was shattered and confused at leaving Concord.

Farah then approached Tedesco after training with the pair heading to Prato. There they spoke for an hour, Tedesco visibly upset at the thought of leaving at season’s end.

The next day, Tedesco travelled to Farah’s inner-west home where the conversation deepened.

Farah then approached Tigers CEO Grant Mayer to ensure the club’s original $450,000 a year contract was still available. It was.

“As club captain I came back from Origin and there’s no doubt the boy was really down, it was noticeable,” Farah said.

“Toddy Payten had a word to me on Tuesday morning and said ‘Teddy’ (Tedesco) hasn’t been the same. I didn’t want to make a big deal out it but we trained on Tuesday and you could see it out there.

Wests Tigers Captain Robbie Farah says the James Tedesco saga shows the club needs to improve their contractural dealings.

“I grabbed him afterwards and said ‘let’s go for a coffee’. We had a good long chat about everything and where his head was at.

“He got pretty emotional. I told him he had to go home and have a serious think about it, spend some time on his own and with family.

“He was worried about the backlash and what people were going to think. At the end of day I just said he had to make a decision that makes James Tedesco happy, not Robbie Farah or anyone else. I told him if he was serious about this we should chat tomorrow.”

And they did. Early on Wednesday Tedesco texted Farah.

“He texted the next day and said his heart was here and he wanted to make it happen,” Farah said. “He came over to my place and spoke about things. It was obvious he was nervous, as was I. ‘Sticky’ (Raiders coach Ricky Stuart) is a really close friend of mine. It’s hard. I was caught between a rock a hard place.

“In the end I told him whatever his decision I will support him and if it means I take the brunt of it, so be it. I didn’t put any pressure on him — it was just a chat. He got pretty emotional.”

Asked was Tedesco in tears, Farah said: “It’s fair to say that.”

Farah then approached Mayer and asked was the offer still on the table.

“He said, of course it is,” Farah said. “Once Teddy knew that and that he was still wanted here, it was just a matter of working through it.”

Asked whether he was worried about damaging his friendship with Stuart, Farah said: “Of course. No doubt Sticky will be filthy and upset. But it’s not about me, it’s not about Stick, it’s about him (Tedesco). We were all disappointed when he was going but for him to have a think about it, realise that this is the place he wants to be, is a massive boost for our club.”

As for Payten, if he hadn’t have intervened then Tedesco may have joined the Raiders, albeit with a heavy heart, and been lost to the Tigers

“I just thought with the way Canberra might have been trying to sell it to him, they would have been telling him we have you, Proctor, Ennis, Mansour,” Payten said.

“Each day, one of those boys signed with their clubs they’re at. It just looked like he was having serious doubts. I was going to have a chat to him but I just tipped Robbie off.

“Robbie said I can’t talk to him because I am pretty dirty about the situation. I said you have to because I think he is really struggling with it and he is a chance to change his mind.”

Wests Tigers coach Mick Potter added: “I’m rapt for the players and rapt for the club — he is going to be a great asset over the next few years. Hopefully he stays at the club for the rest of his career.”

Mayer said Tedesco always wanted to stay.

“The hard thing for James was that he was torn from the get-go,” Mayer said.
 
Could it have really been handled any better?
Working within our cap we have a number of players left to re-sign who can demand the same or even more money. Mayer has previously spoken about not falling in the trap of paying overs as previous management had done and has also called for TPA sponsors to come forward as well as concessions for clubs who are trying to retain their juniors.
I'm of the belief that with all this in mind, we gave Teddy our best deal. Canberra on the other hand, were in a position to pay more than market value for Teddy. This likely gave Teddy the view that our offer was insulting and/or we didn't want him at the club.
I'd be interested to hear how much he was offered by some of the more stronger clubs.
 
Agree with you AJ. I think it was handled well. The offer was there and advice was taken by others that led him towards the money. What else can they do? An offer was on the table and was rejected at the time.
 
Yeh I'm not real sure how it could've been done better…The club comes out smelling fine to me

Seems to me the main sticking points were teddys change of heart and the round 13 rule...things out of the clubs hands
 
Won't somebody please think of the real loser in all of this?
Poor Sam's commission has dropped considerably. What will he do now ?
Poor guy

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Ok to the Potter discussion.

Has he been good for the Tigers?
Is he doing well with the Tigers?
Do the players follow Potter?
Does he have a plan clear plan for future years?
Is there someone better out there?

Ps: if worst comes to worst, Potter was willing to work for free in the Past
 
imo -

yes,
yes,
from what I can see and hear yes,
seems so given he's planning on the kids coming through,
possibly, but I'm happy with Potz - really happy,
 
The only guy who really won't be all that happy is Rowe! Ah well. I have always hoped and felt pretty confident that Potter would develop into a top notch coach. I haven't seen or heard anything that dissuades me from this point of view. A 2 or 3 year contract would be richly deserved in my opinion.
 
(Re Tedesco - The only guy who really won't be all that happy is Rowe! Ah well). I have always hoped and felt pretty confident that Potter would develop into a top notch coach. I haven't seen or heard anything that dissuades me from this point of view. A 2 or 3 year contract would be richly deserved in my opinion.
 
i think a 2-year contract should be enough for now.

'15-'16.. if we dont see good enough results, then we will still have our juniors till'17 where we can let some other coach have a turn with them. unless obviously, he gets us into the finals every year from now on which is realistically possible with the squad and the depth

he says and does the right things. never heard any stupid bs come out of his mouth. he's straight forward.
 
If Farah said the situation could have been handled a lot better from the club I will take his word for it. Farah dosnt grandstand and is a bloke who will always be up front and not put a spin on everything. Their is obviously things that went on, especially in the early days of the negotiations that we we dont know about and are highly unlikely we ever will.

This club can thank its lucky stars that it has people like Farah,Payten and Potter who are keeping an eye on the young kids at the club
 
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