Tevita Pangai Junior

[Devon Head]

Lucy made a few good runs and those 2 linebreaks but it was overshadowed by his defencen and the dropped ball and unessential passes after each break that turned posession

This kinda describes most games for us.

A few good runs then a lot of stupidity and errors.

?‍♂️

How bad was the gap he left to allow Reynolds to stroll through untouched. It was only dumb luck Reynolds had a foot on the line.

 

[Devon Head]

I'm more interested in who's the club insider he refers to that apparently leaked info to the media about this. Seems like a dog move by this club insider though when it comes to the Tigers there always seems to be leakages to the media. Absolute amateur hour.

 

[balmain boy]

Everyone knows the issue was money. He thinks he can get more elsewhere, remains to be seen.

For a club official to contact journalists at 10pm on a thursday night to float a fake narrative that it was about a background check is ludicrous and this official needs to be identified and removed from the organisation. Whether it's a board member, background staff or even Pascoe, it's amateur, unnecessary and unprofessional.

 

[Harvey]

Everyone knows the issue was money. He thinks he can get more elsewhere, remains to be seen.

For a club official to contact journalists at 10pm on a thursday night to float a fake narrative that it was about a background check is ludicrous and this official needs to be identified and removed from the organisation. Whether it's a board member, background staff or even Pascoe, it's amateur, unnecessary and unprofessional.

Only person left out of the list of suspects is the chairman and he has been shown not to be shy about getting the Tigers story across.

 

[TigerWest]

Everyone knows the issue was money. He thinks he can get more elsewhere, remains to be seen.

For a club official to contact journalists at 10pm on a thursday night to float a fake narrative that it was about a background check is ludicrous and this official needs to be identified and removed from the organisation. Whether it's a board member, background staff or even Pascoe, it's amateur, unnecessary and unprofessional.

So, are we happy that this was a club person and not a fabrication by the journo?

 

[Telltails]

Who has he signed with?

 

[momo_amp_medo]

SMH reporting Pangai rejected Wests Tigers NOT Wests Tigers rejected him.
Can @THE_POM confirm?

If true, this is disastrous. No decent player wants to come here.

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So apparently the Wests Tigers did a background check on Tevita Pangai jnr and, despite courting him since February, suddenly just realised on Thursday night that he wasn’t a good fit for the club.

LOL. You couldn’t get better spin out of a day-five deck in Mumbai.

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NRL Highlights: Souths hold off a resilient Tigers effort to win at Leichardt - Round 16

The Tigers host the Rabbitohs in round 16 of the NRL

Was the background check done before or after they verbally offered his manager a two-and-a-half year deal worth $600,000 last week?

Was it before or after whispers began circulating late on Thursday that Pangai was more interested in joining Trent Barrett and the Bulldogs?

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No one would begrudge the Wests Tigers, especially given their recent history in over-paying recruits, for making a business decision not to spend a certain amount of money on a player renowned for his inconsistency.

But to have a senior member of the organisation actively reach out to the media late Thursday night in a bid to save face speaks volumes of the club’s paranoia around a perception in rugby league circles that no one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.

Wests Tigers players in a huddle after conceding one of many tries on Sunday afternoon against the Rabbitohs.
Wests Tigers players in a huddle after conceding one of many tries on Sunday afternoon against the Rabbitohs.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS

At 10.02pm on Thursday night, after the Melbourne Storm had put the cleaners through the Sydney Roosters, Herald league reporter Christian Nicolussi took to Twitter following a conversation with someone at the club to reveal the Tigers had pulled out of the pursuit.

“Take it as fact,” Nicolussi posted. “Wests Tigers not in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them.”

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Had Pangai agreed to the $600,000-a-season deal, one finds it hard to believe this ‘homework’ the Tigers did would have prevented him from joining the club immediately.

Whether Pangai ends up at Canterbury or stays at Brisbane is irrelevant. Wests Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe and coach Michael Maguire have now been left at the altar too many times and are desperate to avoid looking out of their depth.

Tevita Pangai jnr has been given permission to look around.
Tevita Pangai jnr has been given permission to look around.CREDIT:GETTY

How many more times can they convince fans that smart business, not a shortcoming in the club's recruitment ability, is the reason for not landing a player?

Perception is reality, and as a result established players at rival teams aren’t in a hurry to jump into bed with the club unless there is no other option.

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They’ve recruited well when it comes to young talent - with Daine Laurie, Stefano Utoikamanu and Shawn Blore impressing - but it’s a strategy that has been forced upon them due to the reluctance of the game’s bigger names to link with Maguire at the Tigers.

The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.

Tigers coach Michael Maguire is under pressure to save his job.
Tigers coach Michael Maguire is under pressure to save his job.CREDIT:GETTY

Maguire has been at the helm of the Tigers for three years. Some would argue the club has gone backwards during that time.

Sunday’s loss to the Rabbitohs only adds to the pressure on Maguire to keep his job. No doubt someone will use the second-half performance as justification as to why they still believe in the coach and that it’s the players’ fault.

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It's unlikely anything will happen in regards to Maguire's future before Tim Sheens arrives later this month to run his eye over the club.

Maguire was brought to the Tigers to instil a resilience and toughness that has been lacking at the club for some years, yet after 16 weeks he has presided over the worst defensive team in the club’s history, conceding more points per game than ever before. Five wins from 16 games is also one of the club's worst starts to a season.

Things are equally grim at the Bulldogs, however the difference between the two clubs is that within a few months of taking the job, Barrett has been able to offer fans some light at the end of the tunnel through his recruitment. Matt Burton, Josh Addo-Carr, Brent Naden and now perhaps Pangai jnr are all heading to Belmore.

All the Tigers have been able to offer is the nostalgia of Sheens' return. It's hard to see the light if you're a Tigers fan. There’s only so long club officials can keep blaming Ivan Cleary.

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Who gives a quack.
Move on.
It’s a game mate. Winners and losers.

 

[JayT]

I don't think we will sign top players for some time. I think our best bet is sign players better than we have now, to start with, which we seem to be struggling with also.

 

[tony soprano]

SMH reporting Pangai rejected Wests Tigers NOT Wests Tigers rejected him.
Can @THE_POM confirm?

If true, this is disastrous. No decent player wants to come here.

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So apparently the Wests Tigers did a background check on Tevita Pangai jnr and, despite courting him since February, suddenly just realised on Thursday night that he wasn’t a good fit for the club.

LOL. You couldn’t get better spin out of a day-five deck in Mumbai.

Play Video

NRL Highlights: Souths hold off a resilient Tigers effort to win at Leichardt - Round 16
Play video
7:58

NRL Highlights: Souths hold off a resilient Tigers effort to win at Leichardt - Round 16

The Tigers host the Rabbitohs in round 16 of the NRL

Was the background check done before or after they verbally offered his manager a two-and-a-half year deal worth $600,000 last week?

Was it before or after whispers began circulating late on Thursday that Pangai was more interested in joining Trent Barrett and the Bulldogs?

Advertisement

No one would begrudge the Wests Tigers, especially given their recent history in over-paying recruits, for making a business decision not to spend a certain amount of money on a player renowned for his inconsistency.

But to have a senior member of the organisation actively reach out to the media late Thursday night in a bid to save face speaks volumes of the club’s paranoia around a perception in rugby league circles that no one wants to go to the Wests Tigers.

Wests Tigers players in a huddle after conceding one of many tries on Sunday afternoon against the Rabbitohs.
Wests Tigers players in a huddle after conceding one of many tries on Sunday afternoon against the Rabbitohs.CREDIT:NRL PHOTOS

At 10.02pm on Thursday night, after the Melbourne Storm had put the cleaners through the Sydney Roosters, Herald league reporter Christian Nicolussi took to Twitter following a conversation with someone at the club to reveal the Tigers had pulled out of the pursuit.

“Take it as fact,” Nicolussi posted. “Wests Tigers not in for Tevita Pangai Jr. They’ve done their homework and convinced he’s not a good fit for them.”

Advertisement

Had Pangai agreed to the $600,000-a-season deal, one finds it hard to believe this ‘homework’ the Tigers did would have prevented him from joining the club immediately.

Whether Pangai ends up at Canterbury or stays at Brisbane is irrelevant. Wests Tigers chief executive Justin Pascoe and coach Michael Maguire have now been left at the altar too many times and are desperate to avoid looking out of their depth.

Tevita Pangai jnr has been given permission to look around.
Tevita Pangai jnr has been given permission to look around.CREDIT:GETTY

How many more times can they convince fans that smart business, not a shortcoming in the club's recruitment ability, is the reason for not landing a player?

Perception is reality, and as a result established players at rival teams aren’t in a hurry to jump into bed with the club unless there is no other option.

Advertisement

They’ve recruited well when it comes to young talent - with Daine Laurie, Stefano Utoikamanu and Shawn Blore impressing - but it’s a strategy that has been forced upon them due to the reluctance of the game’s bigger names to link with Maguire at the Tigers.

The only two players they’ve signed for next year, Super League duo Jackson Hastings and Oliver Gildart, are both managed by the same player agent who has become increasingly attached to Maguire, as some at the club have noticed.

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Tigers coach Michael Maguire is under pressure to save his job.CREDIT:GETTY

Maguire has been at the helm of the Tigers for three years. Some would argue the club has gone backwards during that time.

Sunday’s loss to the Rabbitohs only adds to the pressure on Maguire to keep his job. No doubt someone will use the second-half performance as justification as to why they still believe in the coach and that it’s the players’ fault.

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It's unlikely anything will happen in regards to Maguire's future before Tim Sheens arrives later this month to run his eye over the club.

Maguire was brought to the Tigers to instil a resilience and toughness that has been lacking at the club for some years, yet after 16 weeks he has presided over the worst defensive team in the club’s history, conceding more points per game than ever before. Five wins from 16 games is also one of the club's worst starts to a season.

Things are equally grim at the Bulldogs, however the difference between the two clubs is that within a few months of taking the job, Barrett has been able to offer fans some light at the end of the tunnel through his recruitment. Matt Burton, Josh Addo-Carr, Brent Naden and now perhaps Pangai jnr are all heading to Belmore.

All the Tigers have been able to offer is the nostalgia of Sheens' return. It's hard to see the light if you're a Tigers fan. There’s only so long club officials can keep blaming Ivan Cleary.

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Who gives a quack.
Move on.
It’s a game mate. Winners and losers.

It’s just an opinion piece wouldn’t take too much from it

 

[GCfan]

This whole TPA charade just proves how imbalanced the NRL is.

TPJ needs us to meet not only his contract price but also his TPA. TPA's are meant to be independent arrangements with biz/players. ***Theoretically they shouldn't matter where a player plays.***


Why? If TPJ is paid $20K by Dodgy Bros Motors to turn up to the dealership on his days off to run a sausage sizzle, how is he going to do that from NSW?

Ill play your game mate...

Its a 30min flight to Brissie, that's how.

Maybe in a super hornet

 

[jirskyr]

Everyone knows the issue was money. He thinks he can get more elsewhere, remains to be seen.

For a club official to contact journalists at 10pm on a thursday night to float a fake narrative that it was about a background check is ludicrous and this official needs to be identified and removed from the organisation. Whether it's a board member, background staff or even Pascoe, it's amateur, unnecessary and unprofessional.

Who actually cares? Doesn't affect the outcome one bit.

 

[Merlot]

This whole TPA charade just proves how imbalanced the NRL is.

TPJ needs us to meet not only his contract price but also his TPA. TPA's are meant to be independent arrangements with biz/players. Theoretically they shouldn't matter where a player plays.

In reality MOST TPA's are just a circumvention of the salary cap. So clubs like ours not only have to pay overs salary cap wise - we also need to try and match TPA's potentially within our salary cap as we don't have the corporate clout as some other clubs.

Irony is, sponsorship is hard at the best of times let alone when the team is struggling.

did we try to get Meriton as a tpa bt were told by the nrl they were too close to the club even after they dropped jersey sponsorship ?

he Triggonbof[?] made a passive take over offer,was told no,and said he is there if they need cash,that was 7 yrs ago

 

[Merlot]

Everyone knows the issue was money. He thinks he can get more elsewhere, remains to be seen.

For a club official to contact journalists at 10pm on a thursday night to float a fake narrative that it was about a background check is ludicrous and this official needs to be identified and removed from the organisation. Whether it's a board member, background staff or even Pascoe, it's amateur, unnecessary and unprofessional.

Who actually cares? Doesn't affect the outcome one bit.

i.if the 10pm rumor is true,that is shoddy workmanship we should all give a ratsrc

 

[iofthetigers]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

 

[Telltails]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Done?

 

[hsvjones]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Most likely and guess what he will play us 1st after his suspension and absolutely tear us a new one.. Then us fans will sit back and say once again why didn't we sign him... Because we are so scared to spend $1 over a market value and forget we are not the Storm , Souths or Roosters who can attract players ... We are the Tigers

 

[iofthetigers]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Done?

Done,the dogs are going to have a fire sale to clear the decks

 

[avocadoontoast]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Done?

Done,the dogs are going to have a fire sale to clear the decks

Oooh sounds like something we’d be interested in.

 

[izotope]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Done?

Done,the dogs are going to have a fire sale to clear the decks

Oooh sounds like something we’d be interested in.

Im excited to pick up a quality speedy centre like Hopoate

 

[Guest]

Who has he signed with?

Dogs effective immediately

Done?

Done,the dogs are going to have a fire sale to clear the decks

Oooh sounds like something we’d be interested in.

Im excited to pick up a quality speedy centre like Hopoate

Speedy? Surely you jest!