Tevita Pangai Junior

[JD Tiger]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

 

[teddy23]

Dogs offer : 700k for 3 years from 2022

Our offer: 600k for 2 years from 2022 (potentially rest of this year)

Can’t see him picking us over the dogs as much as I hope he does…..

 

[Merlot]

4/ 5 r worse than us?

 

[Deleted member 3518]

Was only a matter of time for us to start getting desperate. The club needs a positive story.

Hopefully Hartigan doesn’t offer too much.

I can tell you, it is very hard to move him from a valuation.

I think you're correct but I also think that sort of binary approach is flawed. We could bid and be outbid for the next 20 quality players that come on the market and all it would take is for one of the other clubs to pay overs. I think it's very useful to have a process to value players coming onto the market but you also got to be prepared to stretch your valuation for the right player. I'd stretch for Finucane but probably not for TPJ.

The idea is that by sticking to your valuations you are able to pay overs when the right player come along, so you are right. The player you do pay overs for has to be a player that would fundamentally change your club though, I'm not sure either TPJ or Finucane fall into that category. That is what the club is trying to achieve.

Not many players out there that are sure fire, slam dunk , guaranteed to move the needle , that paying overs would totally be worth it. Even Kalyn Ponga could very well this time next year , be talked about like Ash Taylor.
I have no idea how you roll the dice , and who to even roll the dice on . Eg . The Adam Blair signing was hailed as really smart business at the time . Same for the Ash Taylor signing . He was considered to be the next in line for origin .
All the admin jobs/ coaching jobs to a very large extent are solely dependant on whether or not the guy you’ve hitched your career to , has the right stuff upstairs .
There’s soo much control you give away of your own existence . And it’s all dependant on what happens for 80 minutes a week .

 

[Coastie_Tiger]

You would think it was silly to leak the background check thing in the media and then go back in for him. This club doesn’t know whether they’re Arthur or Mathur.

 

[TSupps05]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

 

[TrueTiger]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

His bro got a kick in the arse and he has got the shits about it....you can see it in his game...

 

[GCfan]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

Why do you think Luch?

 

[TSupps05]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

Why do you think Luch?

Lack of effort and injection into games...

 

[GCfan]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

Why do you think Luch?

Lack of effort and injection into games...

Makes sense but based on that logic it would have to be more than half the team

 

[cochise]

Was only a matter of time for us to start getting desperate. The club needs a positive story.

Hopefully Hartigan doesn’t offer too much.

I can tell you, it is very hard to move him from a valuation.

I think you're correct but I also think that sort of binary approach is flawed. We could bid and be outbid for the next 20 quality players that come on the market and all it would take is for one of the other clubs to pay overs. I think it's very useful to have a process to value players coming onto the market but you also got to be prepared to stretch your valuation for the right player. I'd stretch for Finucane but probably not for TPJ.

The idea is that by sticking to your valuations you are able to pay overs when the right player come along, so you are right. The player you do pay overs for has to be a player that would fundamentally change your club though, I'm not sure either TPJ or Finucane fall into that category. That is what the club is trying to achieve.

Not many players out there that are sure fire, slam dunk , guaranteed to move the needle , that paying overs would totally be worth it. Even Kalyn Ponga could very well this time next year , be talked about like Ash Taylor.
I have no idea how you roll the dice , and who to even roll the dice on . Eg . The Adam Blair signing was hailed as really smart business at the time . Same for the Ash Taylor signing . He was considered to be the next in line for origin .
All the admin jobs/ coaching jobs to a very large extent are solely dependant on whether or not the guy you’ve hitched your career to , has the right stuff upstairs .
There’s soo much control you give away of your own existence . And it’s all dependant on what happens for 80 minutes a week .

To me that decision comes down to a word some people on here hate and its leadership. To be quite honest some people are leaders and some are followers. I have said this on here before, if you take someone who is a follower out of a good system where they are performing well and put them in a poor system they will pickup the traits of the poor system and their game will regress. If you take someone who is a leader out of a good system and place them in a poor system they will continue to perform at their high level and may improve the games of the followers around them by driving higher standards.

A leader won't change their standards, their training level etc because of their environment. A follower will meet the standards of those around them.

 

[Needaname]

You would think it was silly to leak the background check thing in the media and then go back in for him. This club doesn’t know whether they’re Arthur or Mathur.

What was quoted was they’ve decided his not a good fit. That could be interpreted many ways and could solely been in relation to salary and the cap.
The media decided to assume the outcome is behavioural.

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

His bro got a kick in the arse and he has got the shits about it....you can see it in his game...

I thought he was hampered by a knee injury. It was heavily strapped against Souths.

 

[mike]

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32 MINUTES AGO JULY 8, 2021NO COMMENTS

Wests Tigers have held fresh talks with Tevita Pangai Junior as they consider launching a new bid to sign the underfire Brisbane forward.

Pangai was given permission by the Broncos to explore his options on the open market and the Tigers were initially considered favourites to sign the Tongan international.

However, they dropped out of the race after being scared off by his price tag, the expectation that they would instead pursue a deal for Dale Finucane.

The landscape shifted again on Thursday morning after it emerged that the club’s head of football Adam Hartigan had spoken to Pangai Junior’s manager Matt Desira.

The Australian understands the Tigers are yet to table a formal offer and Canterbury remain in the box seat to sign Pangai Junior, having offered him a three-year deal from next season.

However, the Tigers appear to be giving serious consideration to pursuing Pangai Junior. It is understood the Bulldogs’ offer is from next year only, meaning Pangai Junior would finish the season at the Broncos.

The Australian revealed midway through last month that the Broncos had given Pangai Junior permission to speak to rival clubs about an immediate move as they sought to restructure their salary cap and reshape their roster.

That seems like an accurate well balanced version to me.

Yes but who did they get their info from? Smacks of a manager trying to get the Bulldogs deal across the line and using Wests Tigers as leverage.

 

[Needaname]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

His bro got a kick in the arse and he has got the shits about it....you can see it in his game...

I was gunna say if his drop in form coincides with BJ being dropped.
But yet it’s unfair to be questioning his attitude he just seems a poor defender. He doesn’t make solid contact. He doesn’t square up to the runner and he doesn’t cover spaces well.
These are facts. His attitude is speculation.

 

[TrueTiger]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

His bro got a kick in the arse and he has got the shits about it....you can see it in his game...

I thought he was hampered by a knee injury. It was heavily strapped against Souths.

I agree Paws,but he also hasnt been himself since BJ got the flick...maybe having a brother in the side not performing could rub up on you...didnt affect the Morris boys...

 

[yeahcaz]

Waiting on one of our more reliable contributors to have their say on this situation

 

[swag_tiger]

This says manager trying to get the Bulldogs to speed it up written all over it.

 

[Needaname]

This says manager trying to get the Bulldogs to speed it up written all over it.

Either way we’d be wise to push the bulldogs up.
If we can limit the market options for Finucane or Sign TPJ instead of the dogs it’s a win win both ways.

 

[Jedi_Tiger]

Pangai makes more sense for the Tigers than the Dogs. Madge can work with him Barrett is a million to one. For what it’s worth people I know at the dogs believe he will take less to play at the Tigers. There’s a select group at the Tigers stirring trouble it’s not the entire team.

The split needs to be addressed and quickly otherwise we can’t start again. The team is turning in each other during games and after them.

Thanks Tyga. It's pretty obvious Nofa is one, are Lucy and MBye others?

If i were to guess who the players are i'd pick Nofa and Luch

On that note Luch has really disappointed me in the back half of this year, i don't know if it's an injury or attitude thing but he doesn't seem himself

His bro got a kick in the arse and he has got the shits about it....you can see it in his game...

I was gunna say if his drop in form coincides with BJ being dropped.
But yet it’s unfair to be questioning his attitude he just seems a poor defender. He doesn’t make solid contact. He doesn’t square up to the runner and he doesn’t cover spaces well.
These are facts. His attitude is speculation.

I thought a while back when we punt Joey L Luciano will get the Edgar's kick stones and want out