The Salary Cap

[Tiger5150]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

 

[BalmainJnr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA (as they should).

 

[Geo]

How about just start being smarter about it..

 

[Tiger5150]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

 

[BalmainJnr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

 

[cochise]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Outside a few conditions, such as not endorsing club or NRL sponsors direct opposition, I don't believe there should be too many constraints on TPAs.

 

[BalmainJnr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Outside a few conditions, such as not endorsing club or NRL sponsors direct opposition, I don't believe there should be too many constraints on TPAs.

I didn’t say anything about constraining the TPA.
Put steps in place to remove ambiguity about the clubs involvement in the TPA (particularly where a club may utilise a TPA in the contract negotiation).

 

[cochise]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Outside a few conditions, such as not endorsing club or NRL sponsors direct opposition, I don't believe there should be too many constraints on TPAs.

I didn’t say anything about constraining the TPA.
Put steps in place to remove ambiguity about the clubs involvement in the **TPA (particularly where a club may utilise a TPA in the contract negotiation).**

Then that is not a TPA

 

[Tiger5150]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Of course, which is exactly what happens now. This is a lot different to the contract being "administered" by the NRL which is what I was responding to.

 

[BalmainJnr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Outside a few conditions, such as not endorsing club or NRL sponsors direct opposition, I don't believe there should be too many constraints on TPAs.

I didn’t say anything about constraining the TPA.
Put steps in place to remove ambiguity about the clubs involvement in the **TPA (particularly where a club may utilise a TPA in the contract negotiation).**

Then that is not a TPA

I’m not sure I follow you here. The club is supposed to be prohibited from using a TPA as an incentive for a playing contract.

 

[BalmainJnr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Of course, which is exactly what happens now. This is a lot different to the contract being "administered" by the NRL which is what I was responding to.

I acknowledge using the incorrect word hence I clarified my view in my reply to you.

 

[cochise]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Outside a few conditions, such as not endorsing club or NRL sponsors direct opposition, I don't believe there should be too many constraints on TPAs.

I didn’t say anything about constraining the TPA.
Put steps in place to remove ambiguity about the clubs involvement in the **TPA (particularly where a club may utilise a TPA in the contract negotiation).**

Then that is not a TPA

I’m not sure I follow you here. The club is supposed to be prohibited from using a TPA as an incentive for a playing contract.

Where agreeing lol, I was saying if it is club organised then it is not a TPA.

 

[tig_prmz]

NRL will never do anything about TPAs. Why would they? It's an injection of cash that they need.

 

[supercoach]

By my understanding, the salary cap was only meant to stop clubs overspending and going broke, like the Raiders nearly did in the 90s.

Does the salary cap actually level the playing field, considering the existence of TPAs?

And why do people think the NRL admin want the NRL to be even? They want it to succeed as a business, maximise their profits, as long as the public are relatively happy, what does the admin care if it's even or not?

If the NRL wanted to maximise their profits they would have the Bronks, Souths, Dragons, Tigers and Eels at the top of the pile because they are the clubs that when winning get the ratings humming. Melbourne, Chooks and Manly do very little for the NRL’s bottom line

 

[jirskyr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

Thing about TPAs is they are not guaranteed. Already we've heard many tales and complaints in the media about players "not getting their agreed funds" after something went pear-shaped.

So depends how many risks the players is willing to take, and how reliable their guarantee is. I get the impression, from a distance, that Roosters are very good at guaranteeing their sideline support.

 

[jirskyr]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA (as they should).

That's already the rule though - TPAs need to be lodged with the NRL, do they not?

The issue is, as Tiger5150 noted, that a contractual arrangement between a player and a party not bound to the club is not the business of the NRL. Same as they have no legal rights to the player's property dealings, cryptocurrency, share trading etc.

Of course there are going to be businesses and persons "unofficially" bound to the club, i.e. the player doesn't get the money if they are playing for someone else. But what is the NRL supposed to do about that?

 

[JD Tiger]

By my understanding, the salary cap was only meant to stop clubs overspending and going broke, like the Raiders nearly did in the 90s.

Does the salary cap actually level the playing field, considering the existence of TPAs?

And why do people think the NRL admin want the NRL to be even? They want it to succeed as a business, maximise their profits, as long as the public are relatively happy, what does the admin care if it's even or not?

If the NRL wanted to maximise their profits they would have the Bronks, Souths, Dragons, Tigers and Eels at the top of the pile because they are the clubs that when winning get the ratings humming. Melbourne, Chooks and Manly do very little for the NRL’s bottom line

You've made a good point there @supercoach. If I get the time later, maybe I'll have a look at exactly who are the decision makers at the top in the NRL. See if a bit of google can find out some info about them and what their motivations might be.

I certainly did assume the worst, and did so based on no real knowledge of the situation.

 

[happy_tiger]

Whats a salary cap when u can pay a player unlimited amount of money via a third party if u pretend to not know nothing about it.

I would be interested to know why they can’t be administered by the NRL so that clubs can’t use them as a mechanism to lure a player under the cap.

Why the hell would two parties to a contract let a completely separate party with zero interest in the Contract have anything to do with it? On what legal basis?

Nice aggressive reply.
My point was to remove any notion of the club having anything to do with the TPA and including it as part of the package to lure the player.
The contract is still registered with the NRL
***Or do you believe the clubs have zero involvement in the TPA*** (as they should).

Yes exactly. If there is a Contract between a player and a company that has nothing to do with that players NRL club, why should that club or the NRL have anything to do with that Contract?

Would the TPA not be registered with the NRL alongside the playing contract?

Outside a few conditions, such as not endorsing club or NRL sponsors direct opposition, I don't believe there should be too many constraints on TPAs.

Or in Braith's case the party didn't believe Braith was actually playing for the WT's .......never saw him