The Team Changing how League is Played

russelldp

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God I hope this catches on and kills the current yawn-fest that is NRL!!!
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By Paul Kent

THE Ipswich Jets, in the Queensland Cup, are about to change the way rugby league is played.

The Jets do not use block plays, an attacking move used ad nauseam among all 16 NRL clubs right now.

They never wrestle in defence. Indeed, they prefer to let their opposition have quick play-the-balls, again in direct contrast to the NRL way.

Every dropout is also short, even though it leaves teams attacking their tryline.

They don’t care about completion rates. They sometimes run backwards and often run sideways, with the full blessing of their coaches Ben and Shane Walker.

Whatever is considered standard thinking in the NRL there is a fair chance the Jets do the opposite.

But here’s the thing: despite spending about a third on their salaries as what North Queensland Cowboys feeder club, the Townsville Blackhawks, do, which naturally suggests their talent is not as deep, and despite playing a form of football that is the total opposite of the considered way to play in the NRL, the Jets share the competition lead.

And they are the most exciting team in the competition.

So you have to ask yourself the question: are the Jets so successful despite the way they play, or because of it?

“We play a very different style to anyone, anywhere,” Ben Walker said.

Along with his brother Shane, the Walkers have gone back to what renowned Toowoomba coach Duncan Thompson called “contract football”.

The entire coaching philosophy is deliberate.

The Jets are coached this way. More, the Walker brothers are turning conventional thinking upside down.

The golden rule to the Jets’ success is not completion rates, which every NRL coach quotes in his post-match press conference, but time in possession.

“The completion one is an interesting one,” Ben says.

“I’ve gone back through the years and done completions for every team for every game. I did this two years ago when we started using this style.

“Cronulla, one year, had the highest completion rate for the season but they ran, it might have been, second last.

“You don’t win games by completing sets.”

Of far greater importance, Walker says, is time with the ball.

“That is the only stat that we worry about other than the scoreboard,” he says.

It sounds far too basic, but the Walker brothers have identified the other truth.

They know teams fatigue far quicker defending rather attacking, long considered a rugby league

In fact, it’s why most coaches cite “completions” as a determining factor in the result.

But it is time, not completions, that is the biggest

Let’s take a look at the recent Origin game in Sydney, which most believe was a dour, if intense, contest, where precious little football was played as both teams worked through their sets.

NSW finished the game with a staggering 91 per cent completion rate. This is nearly enough to win two football games.

Queensland was not far behind at 85 per cent.

Importantly, though, Queensland came out on top in time in possession, 54 per cent to 46 per cent.

And had the ball in their hand at the end when it came time to win it.
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“That’s why I don’t care if I see our guys running backwards or sideways, as long as we’ve got the ball there’s not much chance of them scoring.”

It’s why the Walker brothers got rid of their wrestling coach four years ago, just a season into the job.

Wrestling, they realised, was counterproductive to what they were trying to achieve.

Last weekend the Jets tackled a Souths Logan player just off his tryline. They jumped up quickly and let him play the ball.

“It enables the opposition to roll through the set really quickly,” Walker says.

“They have five hit-ups and kick to our corner and think they’ve had a good set.

“The reality is they’ve rolled through in 30 seconds and then we get it and we hold on to it for a minute or more.

“So we’re encouraging quick play-the-balls against us.”

Eventually, Walker says, the opposition’s lungs go first. And then they come at them with angles and second phase play that takes advantage of the fatigued defence.

The Walkers also see kick restarts differently.

Most kick-offs, he says, go deep for a front-rower to return, where he usually makes it to the 20m line. The Jets kick short and contest the ball.

“If we don’t get it back they get tackled 35m off the tryline,” he says.

“So we’re losing only 15m but we’re better than a 50 per cent chance of getting the ball back.”

The Jets kicked off five times in Saturday’s 50-20 win over the Magpies but got the ball back four times, justifying the decision.

Even dropouts are the same, with another hidden benefit.

“It’s actually easier to defend your tryline, from your tryline, than from 20m out,” he says.

To say nothing of the times you get the ball back.

The Walker brothers have been coaching the Jets with this philosophy since taking the job five seasons ago, but finally let loose in round five last year.

It is against almost every considered tenant of NRL football, but Walker has no doubt it would transfer to NRL level.

Their success against the Blackhawks, who boast several NRL players, showed that.

What’s lacking is the courage of coaches to go against the grain of considered thinking, which would invite criticism.

Better to fail quietly than try to win gloriously.

“The game is played like it is [in the NRL] now because no-one is game to step outside the line,” Walker says.

“But I know it would work in the NRL because the way we play is precisely the way train.”

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Interesting. I wonder how it would go against a team with a food kicking game…High percentage of repeat sets.
I only thought to.muself during Mondays game how quick the roosters got thru their sets

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@russelldp said:
“They have five hit-ups and kick to our corner and think they’ve had a good set.

“The reality is they’ve rolled through in 30 seconds and then we get it and we hold on to it for a minute or more.

“So we’re encouraging quick play-the-balls against us.”

Eventually, Walker says, the opposition’s lungs go first. And then they come at them with angles and second phase play that takes advantage of the fatigued defence.

Very refreshing, best of luck to them.

I also love that they contest every kick off.
 
TITG and Ink,I have said it in another thread,you don't win games without the ball…

If you have posession longer than the other team and do something attacking with it your probability of winning the game increases twofold...

I know you have heard it from me before,but,attack and defense go hand in hand to win a game of rugby league..
 
It has always been a defense orientated game - ever since 1908\. It's just that the really good defending teams who have won premierships have also scored more points, on more occasions, than their opposition.

I liked the read though because this game has always been cyclical in the way successful coaches are mimicked - except for when we won in 2005\. What has changed these days is that modern coaches have too much influence in the game.

The other critical factor now is that modern referees are letting coaches get away with things like never before. Referees could have stopped crusher tackles, canonballs etc if they only penalised them correctly. Wrestling? No referee of a past era would have allowed the damn time wasting. We have had more rule changes in the last 10 years, than the previous 100 years before that, put together.

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Enjoyed the article, the point about fatigue is so true, you run a team around and the defense will fatigue unlike what we are doing now. The NRL has always been a game that has followed the leader and about every ten years a coach comes up with a new winning formula and everyone else has followed. Coaches like Gibson,Ryan, Sheens, Bennett and Bellamy have all changed the way the game was played, so lets hope the Walker boys get a few people to have a re think on the way the game is played today, but do not hold your breath,coaching in the NRL is a very hard job to crack and once your their it takes a very brave man to go it alone in a different direction
 
very interesting

The powers that be have slowly been turning the NRL into a snore fest for years. Hate the wrestle, currently hate the shortening up of the 10 metre (no one is giving offside penalties by the looks).
 
Just thinking, there appears to be more and more talk about how boring the game has become, will the NRL start listening and actually doing something?
 
Reduce the interchange by half and as Tigerdave said get the officials to police the 10m rule and stamp down on the wrestle and we will have a great game again, but at present it is not only our club that is playing a very dour style of football, its most clubs
 
Anything that gets rid of the boring, grey areas is good! The wrestle should rightly be high on the NRL hit list.

But the game won't change much until someone comes up with a better way to win. Hopefully this philosophy is the start of something!
 
Diff fatigue levels I'd wager between NRL and QLD Cup.

Not that it isn't an interesting idea, but if the opposition doesn't tire so easily and they roll through you all the way to your try-line, you are doing a lot of back-pedalling and then working the ball off your own line.
 
@supercoach said:
Reduce the interchange by half and as Tigerdave said get the officials to police the 10m rule and stamp down on the wrestle and we will have a great game again, but at present it is not only our club that is playing a very dour style of football, its most clubs

yeah I've said in another post, in priors years I watch lots of other games, this year, I pretty much stopped after round 3, there's a lot of boring teams out there.

Reducing the interchange, yeah I'd like to see that as well. Rules changes in '06 helped to stifle the game that both us and the Cowboys were playing and they've kept walking down that road. This year they've really done it. Not only with the no 10 metre, the continued wrestle etc, but refs are dictating play. One side is allowed to play, the other isn't and then that is sometimes swapped around in the 2nd half.

Even Origin Game 1 was boring overall.

There's unfortunately a lot wrong currently with how the game is allowed to be played.
 
NRL is killing the game's entertainers

Steve Mascord

There were many things your correspondent learned from the Magic Weekend in Newcastle – but the most compelling evidence on show was for something I already kind of knew.

On Saturday afternoon, Matt Bowen took a downfield kick on his own quarter-line and embarked on a diagonal run. From my seat 10 rows back at St James' Park, I could almost reach out and touch 'Mango' as he weighed up his options.

And when he linked up with Wigan winger Joe Burgess, I swear I felt the wind deflect off him as he embarked on a blistering 70 metre run to the tryline.
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It's too simple to say the NRL is too intense and Super League more entertaining. Look at the Canberra-Canterbury game I watched from the sideline just a week and a half ago – 41-34 and in doubt almost until the death.

And then check out the first half of Catalans-Huddersfield on Sunday – almost as mind-numbingly tedious as that Wests Tigers-North Queensland Cowboys stinker.

But what really stuck in my mind over the weekend was Jason Taylor's contention that no-one has had real success with attacking football in that competition since Wests Tigers won the NRL in 2005.

The lesson I refer to at the top of the column is this: in Super League you can still have success with daring attack, in a way you can't in the NRL any more. The coaches of Canberra and Canterbury would have been as downcast at the way that game was played as their fans were thrilled.

And that's a problem for the NRL. Taylor's comments – that he likes to coach attack and he has the players who can entertain, but they can't win doing so – should have alarmed everybody involved in the game.

An Australian player at a Super League club told me at the weekend that his coach instructs the players to give the crowd their money's worth, because then they'll be back. "It is actually a different game," he said.

Compare that with the endless hit-ups (with no support) and kicking to the corners of the successful NRL clubs. The best players in that competition shine in spite of the way the game is played, not because of it.

Something has to change.

Brian Smith recently lamented that halfbacks no longer know how to control a game over the full width of the field. Hopefully when he arrives at Wakefield, he'll encourage Tim Smith to do just that – rather than fall into line with what is happening in the NRL right now.

But most of all, we have to put the emphasis back on attack. It's so refreshing to see Canberra shift the ball in their own quarter and so depressing that we rarely see it anywhere else.

http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/nrl-is-killing-the-games-entertainers-20150602-ghels0
 
I agree with this to an extent.

Manly and the Roosters in the years they won the comp were reasonably attacking.

Melbourne have at times shown some attacking play, usually within a strict structure.

I think the coaches are all too scared to play footy. In alot of cases you could be far more attacking without really increasing risk by a large degree.
 
The refereeing and the structure the players are playing under is the issue.

I think there are many attacking teams and a stack of attacking players but things like a short 10, interchange, momentum refereeing, refs ignoring their own pre season directives to penalise teams that get off the tackled player one at a time so they slow the ruck down etc that have crept into the game are the real problem.

Word is a the majority of clubs are ready to replace Dave Smith and place Phil Gould in the role.

Will no doubt only suit the teams with power and connection but we might see a few changes to the way the game is played as a result.
 
The Tigers vrs Cowboys game has sure got a lot of people talking and just maybe Taylor and his tactic will fast forward some much needed changes to try and make the game a form of entertainment it once was. No fan ever deserves to pay money to sit through what we did at Cambo. As I have said before Taylor deserves some credit for coming out and defending his game plan and showing plenty of conviction, but we need rule changes that will make coaches try and win games rather than try and not loose them.

Can only be a good thing now the media are also dissatisfied at where the NRL is at present. Public opinion often changes government policies and even governments, lets hope it has the same effect at Camp Concord and the NRL
 

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