The Wests Tigers Plans leading into 2017

@Juro said:
@Snake said:
The plan is great the club is headed in the right direction ..yes the club has not appeared in regular final series over the past 15 years ..but to say the Tigers are the worse performers out of all the NRL clubs ? I am sure the Weststigers were PREMIERS in 2005 if I am not mistaken now that in it self is by far more successfull than probable the majority of the teams in the NRL .You are a GOOSE Mayer!!!

Interesting to see that Mayer is saying we were the worst performers since 2000\. Really, that could be argued many different ways. Why would he choose the one that makes us look bad? Is he just trying to lower the bar???

To put it in perspective, let's look at some different measures, using different time scales:

**Making finals**
- 3 / 15 years (ranked 15th, Titans were worst on 2, Brisbane were best on 13)
- 3 / 10 years (ranked 14th, Titans and Panthers were worst on 2, Manly were best on 10)
- 2 / 5 years (ranked 8th, Parra were worst on 0, Manly were best on 5)

**Making top 4**
- 3 / 15 years (ranked 8th, Cowboys were worst on 1, Melbourne were best on 7)
- 3 / 10 years (ranked 3rd, Canberra were worst on 0, Melbourne were best on 7)
- 2 / 5 years (ranked 4th, Canberra, Cronulla, Warriors, Knights, Cowboys, Parra were worst on 0, Manly were best on 4)

**Minor premiers**
- 0 / 15 years (among 8 teams on 0, Roosters were best on 3)
- 0 / 10 years (among 11 teams on 0, Roosters and Dragons were best on 2)
- 0 / 5 years (among 12 teams on 0, Roosters were best on 2)

**Grand finalists**
- 1 / 15 years (ranked 8th, Canberra, Cronulla and the Titans were worst on 0, Roosters were best on 6)
- 1 / 10 years (ranked 5th, Canberra, Cronulla, Knights, Penrith and the Titans were worst on 0, Manly were best on 4)
- 0 / 5 years (among 9 teams on 0, Manly, Canterbury and Roosters were best on 2)

**Premiers**
- 1 / 15 years (ranked 4th, 6 teams were on 0, Brisbane, Manly and Roosters were best on 2)
- 1 / 10 years (ranked 2nd, 9 teams were on 0, Manly were best on 2)
- 0 / 5 years (among 11 teams on 0, with 5 teams on 1)

**Wooden spoon**
- 0 / 15 years (among 7 teams on 0, Souths were worst on 3)
- 0 / 10 years (among 8 teams on 0, Parra were worst on 2)
- 0 / 5 years (among 12 teams on 0, Parra were worst on 2)

Great post mate. Fantastic that you looked at different periods. The legitimate way to measure performance.

As you say, the club has done okay in many facets.

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@cunno said:
Gotta love strategic plans, one of those nice to have trendy documents organisations go for nowadays, my experience with them is they become a burden for a few to write then they approved usually by those who are glad someone else wrote it for them and then once completed people in an organisation get on with the real goals and objectives which are usually obvious to most and the strategic plan sits on the shelf.

You have clearly worked in some very poorly managed organisations. Strategic plans done right are invaluable.

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@southerntiger said:
@innsaneink said:
Yep….I was going to post earlier, its dangerous coming out with these grand plans publicly, you just make yourself a target....as AA's link just proves

All decent leaders do it. Its only you can measure performance. Great to see the club being transparent. New board is fantastic.

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So you dont mind them changing these strategic plans from time to time when they dont meet them?
 
@innsaneink said:
@southerntiger said:
@innsaneink said:
Yep….I was going to post earlier, its dangerous coming out with these grand plans publicly, you just make yourself a target....as AA's link just proves

All decent leaders do it. Its only you can measure performance. Great to see the club being transparent. New board is fantastic.

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So you dont mind them changing these strategic plans from time to time when they dont meet them?

It is completely reasonable for the new board to write a new strategic plan especially when you see how completely incompetent the past board has been
 
These things look great and fancy but it doesnt mean much.

Its nice they have set standards.

However I also remember Maybe back in 2013 saying 2015 was the year we could win the comp, with a minimum goal of top 8 in 2014.
 
If the goals of the club are not met, the board and management should be held accountable. Unfortunately as non voting members, there is very little we can do except express opinions through forums like this one.
 
@cochise said:
@innsaneink said:
@southerntiger said:
@innsaneink said:
Yep….I was going to post earlier, its dangerous coming out with these grand plans publicly, you just make yourself a target....as AA's link just proves

All decent leaders do it. Its only you can measure performance. Great to see the club being transparent. New board is fantastic.

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So you dont mind them changing these strategic plans from time to time when they dont meet them?

It is completely reasonable for the new board to write a new strategic plan especially when you see how completely incompetent the past board has been

Yeah I guess so…at least theyre being transparent
 
If the plan has realistic goals and clearly defines accountabilities and how those goals and accountabilities will be monitored, it is a good plan. If it is a collection of motherhood statements, it is a dust collector.
 
Quote Cochise "The senario you suggested is because it is a poorly written strategic plan with no buy in from staff and by the sounds of it management."

Or worse still, management is actively avoiding accountability.
 
After reading a majority of the posts regarding the WTs plans,I have come to the conclusion that at least they are making a profound effort to take the club forward and by letting everyone know what they have as far as plans go to put the club in better stead for the future deserves some positive accolades…..

It is always easy to sit back and critise any topic if you are not involved...a lot of the type of strategic plans that WTs are working on aren't easy to assemble without hard work and tough decisions....

Once put into place and monitored then we can assess wether they have a positive or negative effect on the club as a whole......
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or negative effect on the club as a whole...
 
@southerntiger said:
@Juro said:
@Snake said:
The plan is great the club is headed in the right direction ..yes the club has not appeared in regular final series over the past 15 years ..but to say the Tigers are the worse performers out of all the NRL clubs ? I am sure the Weststigers were PREMIERS in 2005 if I am not mistaken now that in it self is by far more successfull than probable the majority of the teams in the NRL .You are a GOOSE Mayer!!!

Interesting to see that Mayer is saying we were the worst performers since 2000\. Really, that could be argued many different ways. Why would he choose the one that makes us look bad? Is he just trying to lower the bar???

To put it in perspective, let's look at some different measures, using different time scales:

**Making finals**
- 3 / 15 years (ranked 15th, Titans were worst on 2, Brisbane were best on 13)
- 3 / 10 years (ranked 14th, Titans and Panthers were worst on 2, Manly were best on 10)
- 2 / 5 years (ranked 8th, Parra were worst on 0, Manly were best on 5)

**Making top 4**
- 3 / 15 years (ranked 8th, Cowboys were worst on 1, Melbourne were best on 7)
- 3 / 10 years (ranked 3rd, Canberra were worst on 0, Melbourne were best on 7)
- 2 / 5 years (ranked 4th, Canberra, Cronulla, Warriors, Knights, Cowboys, Parra were worst on 0, Manly were best on 4)

**Minor premiers**
- 0 / 15 years (among 8 teams on 0, Roosters were best on 3)
- 0 / 10 years (among 11 teams on 0, Roosters and Dragons were best on 2)
- 0 / 5 years (among 12 teams on 0, Roosters were best on 2)

**Grand finalists**
- 1 / 15 years (ranked 8th, Canberra, Cronulla and the Titans were worst on 0, Roosters were best on 6)
- 1 / 10 years (ranked 5th, Canberra, Cronulla, Knights, Penrith and the Titans were worst on 0, Manly were best on 4)
- 0 / 5 years (among 9 teams on 0, Manly, Canterbury and Roosters were best on 2)

**Premiers**
- 1 / 15 years (ranked 4th, 6 teams were on 0, Brisbane, Manly and Roosters were best on 2)
- 1 / 10 years (ranked 2nd, 9 teams were on 0, Manly were best on 2)
- 0 / 5 years (among 11 teams on 0, with 5 teams on 1)

**Wooden spoon**
- 0 / 15 years (among 7 teams on 0, Souths were worst on 3)
- 0 / 10 years (among 8 teams on 0, Parra were worst on 2)
- 0 / 5 years (among 12 teams on 0, Parra were worst on 2)

Great post mate. Fantastic that you looked at different periods. The legitimate way to measure performance.

As you say, the club has done okay in many facets.

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yea true.

guess we should just leave it the way it is then.

hopefully we can lure back benji and sheens back. i hear humptys interested too!
 
@pHyR3 said:
- 3 / 15 years (ranked 15th, Titans were worst on 2, Brisbane were best on 13)

titans are really 2/8 since they werent here 15 years ago

that's the fact mayer and many other believe in and consider us the most unsuccessful club in the last 15 years. i personally, dont think that's the way to look at it but some do and they're right if we look at just THAT stat.
 
don't matter how good your plan is it will never work 100% you will have to change things as you go along . a twig here and there and it may come together . I am glad at least we have a guide line to follow good luck to the board and the officials who are going to make it happen
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
This club is top of the league when it comes to planning plans.

So a new, professional, business minded board keeps getting tainted because of our previous inept board?

Give these guys a clean slate, we are heading in the direction we have all been waiting for.
 
How are we going in achieving these targets?

I just thought it was interesting to bring this up again a bit down the road.
 
@cochise said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
This club is top of the league when it comes to planning plans.

So a new, professional, business minded board keeps getting tainted because of our previous inept board?

Give these guys a clean slate, we are heading in the direction we have all been waiting for.

Perhaps you should look up Hawthorns strategic plan,there is nothing original in this place the big difference is they created a strategic plan with pillars of success & have everybody buying into it.
 
Interesting that in the Strategic Plan were clear targets for Local Juniors

Might explain some things.

Wonder if they will scrap that.
 
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