The younger generation.......

[TrueTiger]

I said if you want to know more about Nostradarmus then Google it and read about his fascinating story…..his answer to me was,na I would rather play call of duty on my ex box...

So what I'm saying is,this younger generation would rather play the technology game more so than learn history and current affairs where they could enlighten themselves for future conversations....I suppose Iam from the old school and to him I'm a dinosaur,but at least I have had the education to be able to understand how our world is evolving.....
Give me a good historical piece in a magazine....the computer age is really ruining the kids of today......just my opinion,but I would love to hear some others stories...cheers...

I was reading through your post and it struck me that it seems he was quite engaged with you when you were answering his questions but he may not be engaged enough to seek out the answers on his own.

I'm a programmer by trade and I find this kind of thinking that computers have ruined kids very strange.

I mean I could replace "his answer to me was,na I would rather play call of duty on my ex box…" with

"his answer to me was,na I would rather ride my bike around the neighbourhood..."

Neither of those things have anything to do with the Computer Age imo

The Computer Age hasn't changed anything, those who are interested can still read about it online or in print. Those who are not interested can play X-box, Cards, or watch TV.

Also as an aside: I play video games still and i'm nearly 30 years old. (Average age of someone who plays game is 27, so i'm on the wrong side of that bell curve). I do think that schools should be teaching programming. it's a fun and engaging way of teaching kids Math & Logic and that will even help them understand how difficult making things like Call of Duty actually is.

I understand what you are saying Sataris,however,I will give you another reason that I think the computer "GAMES"side of technology is ruining our children,we always sit down as a family for dinner,on several occasions I called the son to come and have his,he said I'm just finishing this level and I said come and have your dinner….25 mins later he had his dinner we were all finished,his was almost cold and still didn't have it,he said he wasn't humgry and went straight back into his room and onto xbox live....now I understand many parents are different,he is about to lose the xbox for a couple of weeks until he understands family and live is more important than another level of a computer game....

He also has chores to do and nearly every day you have to tell him 20 times to get his jobs done because he can't put the remote on his xbox down...

This is what I'm saying about ruining the kids...by all means Google school projects and learn some current affairs or whatever to expand your knowledge....constantly playing call of duty and other violent games doesn't get you a higher school cert or uni degree...

Sataris if you are 30 and have a job,by all means play whatever games you want,this kid is 14 and has to learn something that will give him a chance at employment when he leaves school....that's my point.....cheers....

 

[TrueTiger]

I meant to say in the last post…25 mis later he came out to have his dinner,but didn't have it because he said he wasn't hungry.....
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Sorry I was angry at the time I wrote the post.......

 

[batboy]

I see it in the kids coming out of school to my business.. (Trade based)

They are getting worse, and worse and worse… The only good ones, are the ones that went to work on the weekends with Dad from when they were young.
Physically - The kids these days are muted... They have no hand/Foot - eye co-ordination, No gauge of danger / Assessment of situations, They're even poor drivers...

I'm not 40 and my childhood was spent, Climbing Trees, Riding Bikes, Building Bike Tracks - Swinging Ropes - Cubby Houses and Flying Foxes, Neighbourhood Cricket or Footy in the park... Doing stuff.

Kids these days wouldn't have done most of those things....
It's a shame more than anything

Quote for truth Batboy. Kids are very much "unworldly" these days. My wife is about 6 weeks off giving birth to our first, and I have promised that I will raise them the way I was. If we don't I fear my child will grow up without a sense of how to communicate or hard work.

She is the "lock the house when you're inside" type and I hate living in fear. My parents pushed me out of the door and the missus' parents were a lot more guarded.

I worked with my father every weekend I could because I got paid a pittance to do so and I got to spend time with him as he worked a hell of a lot of overtime and wasn't home as much when I was young. It also gave me a footing to get into the trade myself which I've made a living off. It's given me more than I could have ever hoped for.

I want my kids to be worldly, be streetsmart and be able to handle themselves in life. Not be a doormat because they cannot handle the unsavoury characters that life may send their way.

My sister is similar… Cage them up in cotton. My niece is almost 19 and doesn't know how to catch a bus - but old enough to go out drinking..
Frightens the crap out of me!!

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[Sabre]

Jarryd Hayne's interest in NFL started from video games.

 

[happy_tiger]

I see it in the kids coming out of school to my business.. (Trade based)

They are getting worse, and worse and worse… The only good ones, are the ones that went to work on the weekends with Dad from when they were young.
Physically - The kids these days are muted... They have no hand/Foot - eye co-ordination, No gauge of danger / Assessment of situations, They're even poor drivers...

I'm not 40 and my childhood was spent, Climbing Trees, Riding Bikes, Building Bike Tracks - Swinging Ropes - Cubby Houses and Flying Foxes, Neighbourhood Cricket or Footy in the park... Doing stuff.

Kids these days wouldn't have done most of those things....
It's a shame more than anything

Quote for truth Batboy. Kids are very much "unworldly" these days. My wife is about 6 weeks off giving birth to our first, and I have promised that I will raise them the way I was. If we don't I fear my child will grow up without a sense of how to communicate or hard work.

She is the "lock the house when you're inside" type and I hate living in fear. My parents pushed me out of the door and the missus' parents were a lot more guarded.

I worked with my father every weekend I could because I got paid a pittance to do so and I got to spend time with him as he worked a hell of a lot of overtime and wasn't home as much when I was young. It also gave me a footing to get into the trade myself which I've made a living off. It's given me more than I could have ever hoped for.

I want my kids to be worldly, be streetsmart and be able to handle themselves in life. Not be a doormat because they cannot handle the unsavoury characters that life may send their way.

My sister is similar… Cage them up in cotton. My niece is almost 19 and doesn't know how to catch a bus - but old enough to go out drinking..
Frightens the crap out of me!!

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And that a nice sentiment batboy , wanting to the worldly , be streetsmart and be able to handle themselves

Until they get in a situation that they can't handle …............

That the problem as a parent , where do you draw that line ??

In my opinion , when you have young kids you should struggle with that call every time you make a decision that involves them

 

[Saturnalia]

I said if you want to know more about Nostradarmus then Google it and read about his fascinating story…..his answer to me was,na I would rather play call of duty on my ex box...

So what I'm saying is,this younger generation would rather play the technology game more so than learn history and current affairs where they could enlighten themselves for future conversations....I suppose Iam from the old school and to him I'm a dinosaur,but at least I have had the education to be able to understand how our world is evolving.....
Give me a good historical piece in a magazine....the computer age is really ruining the kids of today......just my opinion,but I would love to hear some others stories...cheers...

I was reading through your post and it struck me that it seems he was quite engaged with you when you were answering his questions but he may not be engaged enough to seek out the answers on his own.

I'm a programmer by trade and I find this kind of thinking that computers have ruined kids very strange.

I mean I could replace "his answer to me was,na I would rather play call of duty on my ex box…" with

"his answer to me was,na I would rather ride my bike around the neighbourhood..."

Neither of those things have anything to do with the Computer Age imo

The Computer Age hasn't changed anything, those who are interested can still read about it online or in print. Those who are not interested can play X-box, Cards, or watch TV.

Also as an aside: I play video games still and i'm nearly 30 years old. (Average age of someone who plays game is 27, so i'm on the wrong side of that bell curve). I do think that schools should be teaching programming. it's a fun and engaging way of teaching kids Math & Logic and that will even help them understand how difficult making things like Call of Duty actually is.

I understand what you are saying Sataris,however,I will give you another reason that I think the computer "GAMES"side of technology is ruining our children,we always sit down as a family for dinner,on several occasions I called the son to come and have his,he said I'm just finishing this level and I said come and have your dinner….25 mins later he had his dinner we were all finished,his was almost cold and still didn't have it,he said he wasn't humgry and went straight back into his room and onto xbox live....now I understand many parents are different,he is about to lose the xbox for a couple of weeks until he understands family and live is more important than another level of a computer game....

He also has chores to do and nearly every day you have to tell him 20 times to get his jobs done because he can't put the remote on his xbox down...

This is what I'm saying about ruining the kids...by all means Google school projects and learn some current affairs or whatever to expand your knowledge....constantly playing call of duty and other violent games doesn't get you a higher school cert or uni degree...

Sataris if you are 30 and have a job,by all means play whatever games you want,this kid is 14 and has to learn something that will give him a chance at employment when he leaves school....that's my point.....cheers....

I get what you're saying, it is tough and family time is extremely important. I'm not a parent (would take time away from video games) and also seems like a lot of hard work. (programmers are EXTREMELY lazy, why do something when I can make a computer do it for me).

A friend of mine is planning to use a trick on his kids which we learnt from our computer Science teacher in High School. "You can play whatever game you like in class, as long as you programmed it yourself and can explain the code to me". Needless to say we created the worlds most basic Tic-Tac-Toe program over a few weeks.

But electronics counted for nothing when we discovered girls. So there's always that to look forward to :stuck_out_tongue:

 

[GoldXR50Leroy]

I know that the Scouts are sort of old hat these days for teenagers but fair dinkum it looks like they've come a long way from my time 40 odd years ago, you couldn't do worse than encourage your kids to become one of them.
Plenty of outdoors activity, interaction with a pretty broad social base, or you could encourage them to be a Army Reservist, get to shoot guns and get paid to do so according to the ads, shooting weapons in real life as opposed to shooting guns in a video game.

 

[stryker]

Life is about experiences. You collect them and you never stop learning new things.

The generation coming through now will know a third of what mine knows and far less than what generations above mine knew. They can programme computers but can't tie a knot. They are tech savvy but can't change a fan belt. They are brilliant at guitar hero but would never contemplate actually learning to play a real guitar….

Our job as parents is to balance their journey out when it comes to experiencing life. Don't just push sport...push arts or hobbies as well. Take them camping, teach them to use their hands to create. Make them earn their pocket money. Teach them to think. When I see a teenager who can't use a shovel, ride a bike, hold a conversation, mow a lawn etc..I just shake my head.

 

[stryker]

I would wager most 40 year olds are stronger than most 20 year olds as well. We may not necessarily be bigger or look as good with out shirts off but we grew our muscles from work - both at home and at the job. We never lazed about…still don't.

 

[TJL]

I would wager most 40 year olds are stronger than most 20 year olds as well. We may not necessarily be bigger or look as good with out shirts off but we grew our muscles from work - both at home and at the job. We never lazed about…still don't.

Life has become pc and if you aren't good at it you can just blame everyone else. The younger generation as a whole are whining little girls who would cry if they had to do just one day of even mild physical labour let alone use a 90 pound jackpick. Mind you my old man's generation called mine soft but then again we weren't bought up as pc fairies as they are today either. Footy has reflected this soft change, the last decent footy was played in the 90's.

 

[Saturnalia]

I would wager most 40 year olds are stronger than most 20 year olds as well. We may not necessarily be bigger or look as good with out shirts off but we grew our muscles from work - both at home and at the job. We never lazed about…still don't.

My dad is nearly 70 and I swear he's still stronger than I am 😱pen_mouth:

 

[supercoach]

Its funny how the older generation view the younger generation. Being of the older generation, my dad use to say to me when I was a kid,how lucky we were and how easy we got it, and of course he was right, and now we are saying the same about generation y and they will say the same things to their kids.

This has been going on since Adam and Eve and will be the same till the earth burns up. Who had the better and healthier childhood is very debatable, being able to run around kick a ball,walk to school and as long as you were home by dark you were not in trouble was great, but when I was a kid a lot things were not talked about and a lot of illness was death sentence that today is very treatable. The ability for kids to be able to travel today is great as when I was a kid it was only the rich who could travel.

Anyway the world will continue to change and technology will drive this change faster and faster so get use to it

 

[batboy]

I said if you want to know more about Nostradarmus then Google it and read about his fascinating story…..his answer to me was,na I would rather play call of duty on my ex box...

So what I'm saying is,this younger generation would rather play the technology game more so than learn history and current affairs where they could enlighten themselves for future conversations....I suppose Iam from the old school and to him I'm a dinosaur,but at least I have had the education to be able to understand how our world is evolving.....
Give me a good historical piece in a magazine....the computer age is really ruining the kids of today......just my opinion,but I would love to hear some others stories...cheers...

I was reading through your post and it struck me that it seems he was quite engaged with you when you were answering his questions but he may not be engaged enough to seek out the answers on his own.

I'm a programmer by trade and I find this kind of thinking that computers have ruined kids very strange.

I mean I could replace "his answer to me was,na I would rather play call of duty on my ex box…" with

"his answer to me was,na I would rather ride my bike around the neighbourhood..."

Neither of those things have anything to do with the Computer Age imo

The Computer Age hasn't changed anything, those who are interested can still read about it online or in print. Those who are not interested can play X-box, Cards, or watch TV.

Also as an aside: I play video games still and i'm nearly 30 years old. (Average age of someone who plays game is 27, so i'm on the wrong side of that bell curve). I do think that schools should be teaching programming. it's a fun and engaging way of teaching kids Math & Logic and that will even help them understand how difficult making things like Call of Duty actually is.

Maths and "computer" Logic won't help you to cross the street safely…
You can't learn life skills, Basic co-ordination sitting inside at a computer my friend.
Same as someone can ride 30ks on an exercise bike - But can't ride 5 on a real bike on a real road.
I deal with computer programmers on a daily basis (And have been for 20 years) and their idea of logic and common sense seems to differ somewhat to the people who actually have to use it.
- I've not heard anyone (ever) tell me they love the new windows hand and fist over the old windows....

 

[Goose]

Its funny how the older generation view the younger generation. Being of the older generation, my dad use to say to me when I was a kid,how lucky we were and how easy we got it, and of course he was right, and now we are saying the same about generation y and they will say the same things to their kids.

This has been going on since Adam and Eve and will be the same till the earth burns up. Who had the better and healthier childhood is very debatable, being able to run around kick a ball,walk to school and as long as you were home by dark you were not in trouble was great, but when I was a kid a lot things were not talked about and a lot of illness was death sentence that today is very treatable. The ability for kids to be able to travel today is great as when I was a kid it was only the rich who could travel.

Anyway the world will continue to change and technology will drive this change faster and faster so get use to it

100% correct….

Things change, and human nature leads us to think that what we learnt is important. The reality is that what is important changes.

Strykers comments illustrate that well, todays generation (including myself, Im 36) dont learn how to sew, tie knots, change oil or tinker with an engine. However alot of those things importance in society has waned. Cars need alot less ongoing maintenance than previously and are far more affordable to fix and clothes are so cheap they dont need repairing. So many things are so user friendly alot of skills are now redundant and replaced.

Skills that are fundamental to my lifestyle (computer literacy for example) didnt exist even a few decades ago and will soon be redundant also as they are replaced, that is life.

The fact young people learn different skills doesnt mean they are useless they have just adapted to a different world.

I gurantee as Supercoach has said, that in a decade or 2 these teenagers of today will be lamenting how young people today are soft and hopeless and saying stuff like they dont even know how to type or go to the shops to buy XXXXXXX or whatever skills they have learnt that have become redundant.

Just like we are now, and our parents and their parents :slight_smile:

 

[Saturnalia]

Its funny how the older generation view the younger generation. Being of the older generation, my dad use to say to me when I was a kid,how lucky we were and how easy we got it, and of course he was right, and now we are saying the same about generation y and they will say the same things to their kids.

This has been going on since Adam and Eve and will be the same till the earth burns up. Who had the better and healthier childhood is very debatable, being able to run around kick a ball,walk to school and as long as you were home by dark you were not in trouble was great, but when I was a kid a lot things were not talked about and a lot of illness was death sentence that today is very treatable. The ability for kids to be able to travel today is great as when I was a kid it was only the rich who could travel.

Anyway the world will continue to change and technology will drive this change faster and faster so get use to it

100% correct….

Things change, and human nature leads us to think that what we learnt is important. The reality is that what is important changes.

Strykers comments illustrate that well, todays generation (including myself, Im 36) dont learn how to sew, tie knots, change oil or tinker with an engine. However alot of those things importance in society has waned. Cars need alot less ongoing maintenance than previously and are far more affordable to fix and clothes are so cheap they dont need repairing. So many things are so user friendly alot of skills are now redundant and replaced.

Skills that are fundamental to my lifestyle (computer literacy for example) didnt exist even a few decades ago and will soon be redundant also as they are replaced, that is life.

The fact young people learn different skills doesnt mean they are useless they have just adapted to a different world.

I gurantee as Supercoach has said, that in a decade or 2 these teenagers of today will be lamenting how young people today are soft and hopeless and saying stuff like they dont even know how to type or go to the shops to buy XXXXXXX or whatever skills they have learnt that have become redundant.

Just like we are now, and our parents and their parents :slight_smile:

Decade from now.

"You communicated with other people, using text on a screen?, wow how archaic"

I really hope the word archaic is around for future generations.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

It will be Sataris, but likely spelt: Rkayk

 

[tsjonathan]

Its funny how the older generation view the younger generation. Being of the older generation, my dad use to say to me when I was a kid,how lucky we were and how easy we got it, and of course he was right, and now we are saying the same about generation y and they will say the same things to their kids.

This has been going on since Adam and Eve and will be the same till the earth burns up. Who had the better and healthier childhood is very debatable, being able to run around kick a ball,walk to school and as long as you were home by dark you were not in trouble was great, but when I was a kid a lot things were not talked about and a lot of illness was death sentence that today is very treatable. The ability for kids to be able to travel today is great as when I was a kid it was only the rich who could travel.

Anyway the world will continue to change and technology will drive this change faster and faster so get use to it

100% correct….

Things change, and human nature leads us to think that what we learnt is important. The reality is that what is important changes.

Strykers comments illustrate that well, todays generation (including myself, Im 36) dont learn how to sew, tie knots, change oil or tinker with an engine. However alot of those things importance in society has waned. Cars need alot less ongoing maintenance than previously and are far more affordable to fix and clothes are so cheap they dont need repairing. So many things are so user friendly alot of skills are now redundant and replaced.

Skills that are fundamental to my lifestyle (computer literacy for example) didnt exist even a few decades ago and will soon be redundant also as they are replaced, that is life.

The fact young people learn different skills doesnt mean they are useless they have just adapted to a different world.

I gurantee as Supercoach has said, that in a decade or 2 these teenagers of today will be lamenting how young people today are soft and hopeless and saying stuff like they dont even know how to type or go to the shops to buy XXXXXXX or whatever skills they have learnt that have become redundant.

Just like we are now, and our parents and their parents :slight_smile:

Decade from now.

"You communicated with other people, using text on a screen?, wow how archaic"

I really hope the word archaic is around for future generations.

I think the younger generation have it a lot more difficult and will have it A LOT more difficult with less jobs, more competition. I went the FODI and listened to Martin Ford talk about Robots and how they have taken over so much of what humans do. Take a look at Australia Post for example.

Kids also have a lot more options to choose from in terms of career choices and life choices- it brings up a lot of conundrums, which is a challenge in it's own right so I do feel for the younger generation.

 

[tigerbalm]

I only recently read this quote;

"The children now love luxury. They have bad manners, contempt for authority; they show disrespect for elders and love chatter in place of exercise".

Socrates

I guess the young have pissed off the old…well, forever.

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