Tigers’ carefree attitude with the ball is killing them

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I think we have too many playmakers . They each get a go in the set of six & each are thinking "this is our chance to shine" .
That's fine in u20s where the scores are 40-38 but NRL games aren't like that very often .

Watching them play it's hard to see who is the on field general who is calling the shots . Our best performance of the year was the first half vs the Warriors when Brooks & Farah weren't there .

If we could find a steady half or 5/8 who kicks goals at 90% that might be the way to go . A Hodkinson or Maloney type player . I know Prince was a little more than a steady player but he knew when to kick to the corners .

Good points
I'm starting to think we are probably better off re-signing Moses and letting Brooks go and replace him with a seasoned half like you've suggested. Farah needs to leave aswell.

Just fill me in how Farah was careless with the ball - I am sure there were lot more instances than other players but I am suffering amnesia.

 

[Eddie]

The thing about Farah is he cops it if he even dare make a poor pass or dodgy kick. I am not saying he doesn't do it.

However I watched Cameron Smith take 2-3 terrible last tackle options on Monday against the Bulldogs in their loss to the Dogs.

Farah would have been abserloutly hammered if he came up with these 2 or 3 plays. Some fans are selective watches when it comes to particular players.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

Farah was criticised somewhere for not warning Teddy that he would make a run and for him to follow. That first breaking the line that Farah produced early last game I thought if he passes WT will lose the ball, but no lo and behold, someone was there presumably waiting for such. So maybe he does prepare guys around him. The reason we did not score after that break is the same reason we lost the whole game.

 

[gallagher]

I think we have too many playmakers . They each get a go in the set of six & each are thinking "this is our chance to shine" .
That's fine in u20s where the scores are 40-38 but NRL games aren't like that very often .

Watching them play it's hard to see who is the on field general who is calling the shots . Our best performance of the year was the first half vs the Warriors when Brooks & Farah weren't there .

If we could find a steady half or 5/8 who kicks goals at 90% that might be the way to go . A Hodkinson or Maloney type player . I know Prince was a little more than a steady player but he knew when to kick to the corners .

Good points
I'm starting to think we are probably better off re-signing Moses and letting Brooks go and replace him with a seasoned half like you've suggested. Farah needs to leave aswell.

Just fill me in how Farah was careless with the ball - I am sure there were lot more instances than other players but I am suffering amnesia.

Who said he was? Oh that's right, someone mentioned Farah, better rush to his defense. Your very boring.

 

[Russell]

Farah was criticised somewhere for not warning Teddy that he would make a run and for him to follow. That first breaking the line that Farah produced early last game I thought if he passes WT will lose the ball, but no lo and behold, someone was there presumably waiting for such. So maybe he does prepare guys around him. The reason we did not score after that break is the same reason we lost the whole game.

With Teddy it is anticipation.

He prepared no one - not even himself. That is why half the time he takes one or two steps from dummy half ( will I run or won't I - Oh! no I won't ) here Brooks you have it! (hospital pass).

Someone says Smith had three poor last tackle options. When your playing for the Storm you can get away with it. When you are playing for the Tigers you can't - that is why we criticise him and he made a lot more tan three.

If you were in Robbie's shoes coming out for the second half - would you have continued to pass to Brooks (after the first half he had) or would you have gone to Moses on the other side?

No, he continued to go to Brooks. Dumbarse.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I think we have too many playmakers . They each get a go in the set of six & each are thinking "this is our chance to shine" .
That's fine in u20s where the scores are 40-38 but NRL games aren't like that very often .

Watching them play it's hard to see who is the on field general who is calling the shots . Our best performance of the year was the first half vs the Warriors when Brooks & Farah weren't there .

If we could find a steady half or 5/8 who kicks goals at 90% that might be the way to go . A Hodkinson or Maloney type player . I know Prince was a little more than a steady player but he knew when to kick to the corners .

Good points
I'm starting to think we are probably better off re-signing Moses and letting Brooks go and replace him with a seasoned half like you've suggested. **Farah needs to leave as well**.

Just fill me in how Farah was careless with the ball - I am sure there were lot more instances than other players but I am suffering amnesia.

**Who said he was? Oh that's right, someone mentioned Farah, better rush to his defense. Your very bor**ing.

Well you mentioned him to go in a thread titled _careless attitude with the ball,_ so I took it at face value you meant him being careless with the ball that now you are denying you meant that context. If you stick on topic without adding unnecessary irrelevant diversions these misunderstandings won't occur.

 

[gallagher]

I really think the word moron doesn't get used enough these days.

 

[Byron_Bay_Fan]

I really think the word moron doesn't get used enough these days.

Again depending on context, if certain circles it's use is frowned upon, terms like intellectually challenged are the vogue.

 

[Mac_tiger]

Great post jirskyr. Rugby League is a tough but simple game - metres up the middle, quick play the ball and let your halves run the ball when the defence is on the back foot. This is Taylors message.

Hi Jason. Do you think that maybe you could have chosen a better bench this week.

Hi Steve. Right across the club i'm struggling to find a starting 13 worthy of playing 1st's, so the bench needs to be a work in progress.

Jason

 

[stevetiger]

Great post jirskyr. Rugby League is a tough but simple game - metres up the middle, quick play the ball and let your halves run the ball when the defence is on the back foot. This is Taylors message.

Hi Jason. Do you think that maybe you could have chosen a better bench this week.

Hi Steve. Right across the club i'm struggling to find a starting 13 worthy of playing 1st's, so the bench needs to be a work in progress.

Jason

Thanks for the response. It's good to see you interacting with the fans. If you need some help picking the bench I think there are a lot of ideas on this forum.

Keep your head and keep working hard.

 

[simonthetigerrrr]

I think all this "we are pushing the plays" business is hogwash.

Its our execution thats letting us down.

I reckon i saw about half a dozen balls go down when players were off into the clear….fail either because of a poor pass or just bad hands.

If these passes stick we are gonna smash someone and soon.

I say stick with it.....it will literally stick soon.

And even though we have had the droppsies we have had a chance to win every game we have played....thats not too shabby!

 

[stevetiger]

I think all this "we are pushing the plays" business is hogwash.

Its our execution thats letting us down.

I reckon i saw about half a dozen balls go down when players were off into the clear….fail either because of a poor pass or just bad hands.

If these passes stick we are gonna smash someone and soon.

I say stick with it.....it will literally stick soon.

And even though we have had the droppsies we have had a chance to win every game we have played....thats not too shabby!

100% correct. It's the execution that is the major problem right now. Some plays were pushed but there were like 3 or 4 chances out on the left side against Newcastle that just didn't come off due to poor execution. The plays were on.

Some of Naiqama's passes were terrible and not on but there were a bunch of plays that should of been made. If we then show some discipline and stop giving away penalties all the time we can win games.

The question is do Brooks and Moses have the ability to make execute the plays. This isn't a sure thing at this point.

 

[simonthetigerrrr]

Yeah Kevvie got excited,JT needs to get in his ear about his passing.

The two that stick in my mind from the weekend that could easily have been tries, was when Moses put Brooks though a hole and he just dropped it cold and Milone giving a terrible pass to an unmarked Rankin.

Both these times we had set up a good play and the execution has let us down….these stick and we win that game and well.

 

[ricksen]

The thing about Farah is he cops it if he even dare make a poor pass or dodgy kick. I am not saying he doesn't do it.

However I watched Cameron Smith take 2-3 terrible last tackle options on Monday against the Bulldogs in their loss to the Dogs.

Farah would have been abserloutly hammered if he came up with these 2 or 3 plays. Some fans are selective watches when it comes to particular players.

The storm have been very un-storm like this season in that sense, Smith and Cronk have been well below their best.
Last tackle of the game on Monday, Smith tried to milk a penalty rather than giving quick ball from DH - astonishing stuff for a guy like that.

 

[cktiger]

Farah was criticised somewhere for not warning Teddy that he would make a run and for him to follow. That first breaking the line that Farah produced early last game I thought if he passes WT will lose the ball, but no lo and behold, someone was there presumably waiting for such. So maybe he does prepare guys around him. The reason we did not score after that break is the same reason we lost the whole game.

With Teddy it is anticipation.

He prepared no one - not even himself. That is why half the time he takes one or two steps from dummy half ( will I run or won't I - Oh! no I won't ) here Brooks you have it! (hospital pass).

Someone says Smith had three poor last tackle options. When your playing for the Storm you can get away with it. When you are playing for the Tigers you can't - that is why we criticise him and he made a lot more tan three.

If you were in Robbie's shoes coming out for the second half - would you have continued to pass to Brooks (after the first half he had) or would you have gone to Moses on the other side?

**No, he continued to go to Brooks**. Dumbarse.

Brooks is the halfback and calls the shots.
If Farah takes the game into his own hands you would be the first person whinging. :bash

 

[Eddie]

Farah was criticised somewhere for not warning Teddy that he would make a run and for him to follow. That first breaking the line that Farah produced early last game I thought if he passes WT will lose the ball, but no lo and behold, someone was there presumably waiting for such. So maybe he does prepare guys around him. The reason we did not score after that break is the same reason we lost the whole game.

With Teddy it is anticipation.

He prepared no one - not even himself. That is why half the time he takes one or two steps from dummy half ( will I run or won't I - Oh! no I won't ) here Brooks you have it! (hospital pass).

Someone says Smith had three poor last tackle options. When your playing for the Storm you can get away with it. When you are playing for the Tigers you can't - that is why we criticise him and he made a lot more tan three.

If you were in Robbie's shoes coming out for the second half - would you have continued to pass to Brooks (after the first half he had) or would you have gone to Moses on the other side?

**No, he continued to go to Brooks**. Dumbarse.

Brooks is the halfback and calls the shots.
If Farah takes the game into his own hands you would be the first person whinging. :bash

And if he went to his five-eight all day Russell would be whinging that he was ignoring his young halfback and leading to him losing confidence..

Cant win with Russell.

 

[Glennb]

What really worries me is that Taylor, all the players and the author of this article have completely missed the point.

We did NOT win those first two games by playing "carefree footy". Those two games were NOT from a style of footy last seen in 2005\. We won those two games by our forwards smashing the opposition. We won by our forwards running HARD and FAST and running great lines smashing straight into and through the line. This invariably left us 30m out with the opposition condensed and on the back foot leaving their outside backs ripe for our halves and outside backs to run past them. This is also why in both of those games the opposition came back because we ran out of puff. That level of awesome intensity wasnt able to be sustained.

Since then it seems to me that all of a sudden our players think they are the new entertainers and we have zero penetration. Its not our forwards fault, they are standing up when asked but with Farah kicking on the third, spreading it wide in our own half, we dont have achance to stick it out.

I have massive confidence that this team is capable of doing it, zero confidence that they know what they are doing.

 

[Tigermama]

Great post jirskyr. Rugby League is a tough but simple game - metres up the middle, quick play the ball and let your halves run the ball when the defence is on the back foot. This is Taylors message.

Hi Jason. Do you think that maybe you could have chosen a better bench this week.

Lol… :laughing: