Tigers boss defends handling of the Cleary exit :Part 1

[sheer64]

It seems to me Ivan the Terrible (and his millions), was still used by Penrith and Gould to derail the Wests Tigers, in their efforts for the Panthers to become the sole Western Sydney NRL team. Ivan is a bludger, but Gould is pure scum.

 

[supercoach]

Spare me the PR victory.

Bottom line is that we lost a coach mid-rebuild AND and allowed this saga to drag on, ruining any opportunity a new coach may have had to recruit.

While Cleary no doubt must shoulder some of the blame, management are also culpable.
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The club were brilliant and handled the saga really well and most people think we got the best outcome of all the clubs tied up in the saga of musical coaches. Iam not sure what difference there is in the player market now and when the saga began. Anyway what’s the old saying about fools jumping in.

 

[Silentio]

IMO, management signed the wrong bloke and sowed the seeds for a terrible situation.

IC had a future superstar son playing first grade at another club when he joined us.

History shows this is never a sustainable situation. Penrith were never, EVER going to let NC go. The chances of keeping IC here were obviously slim.

Pascoe worked at Penrith and has worked with IC He should have known this potential scenario better than anyone.

Walking out on a contract is poor form, but management have no doubt been caught with their pants down.

 

[Joel Helmes]

IMO, management signed the wrong bloke and sowed the seeds for a terrible situation.

IC had a future superstar son playing first grade at another club when he joined us.

History shows this is never a sustainable situation. Penrith were never, EVER going to let NC go. The chances of keeping IC here were obviously slim.

Pascoe worked at Penrith and has worked with IC He should have known this potential scenario better than anyone.

Walking out on a contract is poor form, but management have no doubt been caught with their pants down.

A lot of assumptions there.

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

IMO, management signed the wrong bloke and sowed the seeds for a terrible situation.

IC had a future superstar son playing first grade at another club when he joined us.

History shows this is never a sustainable situation. Penrith were never, EVER going to let NC go. The chances of keeping IC here were obviously slim.

Pascoe worked at Penrith and has worked with IC He should have known this potential scenario better than anyone.

Walking out on a contract is poor form, but management have no doubt been caught with their pants down.

Probably never hedged his bets on a club wanting back a coach they unceremoniously dumped previously either. The whole scenario was pretty much unprecedented.

 

[fibrodreaming]

IMO, management signed the wrong bloke and sowed the seeds for a terrible situation.

IC had a future superstar son playing first grade at another club when he joined us.

**History shows this is never a sustainable situation**. Penrith were never, EVER going to let NC go. The chances of keeping IC here were obviously slim.

Pascoe worked at Penrith and has worked with IC He should have known this potential scenario better than anyone.

Walking out on a contract is poor form, but management have no doubt been caught with their pants down.

My memory is not great at the best of times, but I don't remember a coach walking out on his club to coach his super star son at another club. Not sure history was going forewarn WT management of this.

 

[Nelson]

IMO, management signed the wrong bloke and sowed the seeds for a terrible situation.

IC had a future superstar son playing first grade at another club when he joined us.

History shows this is never a sustainable situation. Penrith were never, EVER going to let NC go. The chances of keeping IC here were obviously slim.

Pascoe worked at Penrith and has worked with IC He should have known this potential scenario better than anyone.

Walking out on a contract is poor form, but management have no doubt been caught with their pants down.

Seems nobody agrees with you. That might tell you something about the foreseeability of this….

 

[Cultured_Bogan]

Pascoe should have known the guy was a snake in the grass… What a novice...

 

[oldvic]

I don't think Management had a clue that this was about to happen , It's my opinion that they did a pretty good job , considering the uniqueness of the event , I know that I have an elevated opinion of our board since the issue . I also have a vastly different feeling toward Cleary now , I have the same opinion towards Gould as before , wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him !

 

[Strider]

Winning PR battles. Haha. I get what you are saying but, really, like anyone will care at all when the seasons starts except some bitter Tigers fans =p

 

[hammertime]

IMO, management signed the wrong bloke and sowed the seeds for a terrible situation.

IC had a future superstar son playing first grade at another club when he joined us.

History shows this is never a sustainable situation. Penrith were never, EVER going to let NC go. The chances of keeping IC here were obviously slim.

Pascoe worked at Penrith and has worked with IC He should have known this potential scenario better than anyone.

Walking out on a contract is poor form, but management have no doubt been caught with their pants down.

I never saw anyone on here predict it, in fact the opposite. Everyone was saying to not offer him a contract extension early until he had proven himself (which is possibly the one thing that could have got him to stay)

Management went through the right course of action afterwards. Offering a revised deal, then searching for a coach when that wasn't taken up.

Some people are just rediciulous expecting pascoe to magically read minds. Our entire forum, which contains some smart guys, didn't see this either.

 

[supercoach]

Winning PR battles. Haha. I get what you are saying but, really, like anyone will care at all when the seasons starts except some bitter Tigers fans =p

Your right the PR battle means jack when it comes to September next year, but we did gain a ton of positive exposure and that really helps your brand name in the market place, especially when there is no football to talk about. Helps with attracting revenue streams for the club and fingers crossed the opposite for the Chocolate soldiers.

 

[fibrodreaming]

Winning PR battles. Haha. I get what you are saying but, really, like anyone will care at all when the seasons starts except some bitter Tigers fans =p

I think IC and Penrith will be under pressure. If Penrith perform well, then you'r right, no one will care. But if they perform below expectations (and certainly if there are problems within the playing group) then it will be a PR disaster and Gould and the Board will have a hostile media to contend with.

 

[TJL]

This is gonna be a long off-season, I'm sick to death of hearing about Cleary. Surely there are much better things to talk about than someone whose word is worth less than a politician's.

 

[TheDaBoss]

This is gonna be a long off-season, I'm sick to death of hearing about Cleary. Surely there are much better things to talk about than someone whose word is worth less than a politician's.

same i agree, i want to hear more about us making decent signings

 

[dazza65]

Spare me the PR victory.

Bottom line is that we lost a coach mid-rebuild AND and allowed this saga to drag on, ruining any opportunity a new coach may have had to recruit.

While Cleary no doubt must shoulder some of the blame, management are also culpable.

Geez you’re tough or ….. misguided :smiley:

This was dumped on the club and they handled it extremely well. We came out of it smelling like roses- a potential upgrade on the coach and one who seems to want to be here and most probably some payment
IC and Penrith are the ones who had their reps hit big time. Worse if they don’t fire pretty quickly and bag the premiership

 

[Tiger_Steve]

Spare me the PR victory.

Bottom line is that we lost a coach mid-rebuild AND and allowed this saga to drag on, ruining any opportunity a new coach may have had to recruit.

While Cleary no doubt must shoulder some of the blame, management are also culpable.

Geez you’re tough or ….. misguided :smiley:

This was dumped on the club and they handled it extremely well. We came out of it smelling like roses- a potential upgrade on the coach and one who seems to want to be here and most probably some payment
IC and Penrith are the ones who had their reps hit big time. Worse if they don’t fire pretty quickly and bag the premiership

Absolutely!

 

[newtiger]

Spare me the PR victory.

Bottom line is that we lost a coach mid-rebuild AND and allowed this saga to drag on, ruining any opportunity a new coach may have had to recruit.

While Cleary no doubt must shoulder some of the blame, management are also culpable.

Geez you’re tough or ….. misguided :smiley:

This was dumped on the club and they handled it extremely well. We came out of it smelling like roses- a potential upgrade on the coach and one who seems to want to be here and most probably some payment
IC and Penrith are the ones who had their reps hit big time. Worse if they don’t fire pretty quickly and bag the premiership

Well said.

 

[supercoach]

Spare me the PR victory.

Bottom line is that we lost a coach mid-rebuild AND and allowed this saga to drag on, ruining any opportunity a new coach may have had to recruit.

While Cleary no doubt must shoulder some of the blame, management are also culpable.

Geez you’re tough or ….. misguided :smiley:
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Now ain’t that the truth

This was dumped on the club and they handled it extremely well. We came out of it smelling like roses- a potential upgrade on the coach and one who seems to want to be here and most probably some payment
IC and Penrith are the ones who had their reps hit big time. Worse if they don’t fire pretty quickly and bag the premiership

Well said.

 

[happy_tiger]

I'm not forgetting it

Either is Hobbo ….. we are going to Brisbane to take IC hostage on the big footy weekend