Tigers leagues?

@Kul said:
@magpiecol said:
The Leagues Club will never eventuate whilst the Greens are in power. And taking into account the voting trends of the now locals, it will never happen.

Liberals scored the most votes in the latest State Election, a HUGE shift in voting intentions.
Greens only got in because Labor sent their preferences to Jamie Parker

That's only because the ALP vote went to the Greens. Libs are no chance in that seat. They may have taken a plurality but they weren't close to a majority. If 200 Greens voters had have voted ALP, Labor would have come 2nd and got Greens preferences.
 
@magpiecol said:
The Leagues Club will never eventuate whilst the Greens are in power. And taking into account the voting trends of the now locals, it will never happen.

Does it really matter anymore?

If Leagues Clubs are going to play a role in Wests Tigers, then surely Wests Ashfield and Wests Campbelltown are the future.
 
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@magpiecol said:
The Leagues Club will never eventuate whilst the Greens are in power. And taking into account the voting trends of the now locals, it will never happen.

Does it really matter anymore?

If Leagues Clubs are going to play a role in Wests Tigers, then surely Wests Ashfield and Wests Campbelltown are the future.

The role of leagues clubs is declining all over the NRL. If you're relying on your registered clubs for significant funding, you're in a lot of trouble.
 
WT is a joint venture and not 2 merged football clubs. Balmain and Wests are individual clubs with respective leagues clubs. Publically they are seen as one club but its two clubs only joined only at nrl level. Depending on the outcome of upcoming wests group 'harmonisation' then ashfield or most likely campbelltown could be rebranded at wt leagues club. campbelltown is already painted black and gold and has no magpies memorabilia etc.
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It's time to start the Wests Tigers Leagues Club with our history from 2000 onwards and it would be great place to do it in Campbelltown I reckon!
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@Yossarian said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@magpiecol said:
The Leagues Club will never eventuate whilst the Greens are in power. And taking into account the voting trends of the now locals, it will never happen.

Does it really matter anymore?

If Leagues Clubs are going to play a role in Wests Tigers, then surely Wests Ashfield and Wests Campbelltown are the future.

The role of leagues clubs is declining all over the NRL. If you're relying on your registered clubs for significant funding, you're in a lot of trouble.

Agree, I would like to follow a club that doesn't rely on the scourge of problem gambling.
 
@shane2801 said:
You couldn't pay me enough to go to a game at Leichhardt anymore. It's the dump of dumps.

Thanks for playing. You can collect your Sale of the Century boardgame from the car park…
 
@Cultured Bogan said:
@Yossarian said:
@Gary Bakerloo said:
@magpiecol said:
The Leagues Club will never eventuate whilst the Greens are in power. And taking into account the voting trends of the now locals, it will never happen.

Does it really matter anymore?

If Leagues Clubs are going to play a role in Wests Tigers, then surely Wests Ashfield and Wests Campbelltown are the future.

The role of leagues clubs is declining all over the NRL. If you're relying on your registered clubs for significant funding, you're in a lot of trouble.

Agree, I would like to follow a club that doesn't rely on the scourge of problem gambling.

"scourge of problem gambling"?

You are kidding right?

Ask the local kids, the local retirees, the bowling, golf, darts etc etc about relying on clubs. Give yourself an uppercut and stop listening to the left wing loonies.
 
@magpiecol said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Agree, I would like to follow a club that doesn't rely on the scourge of problem gambling.

"scourge of problem gambling"?

You are kidding right?

Ask the local kids, the local retirees, the bowling, golf, darts etc etc about relying on clubs. Give yourself an uppercut and stop listening to the left wing loonies.

I don't think you have to be a "left wing loony" to not be totally comfortable with the gaming industry being the main financial backer of your club. Personally I'm ok with letting people largely exercise their free choice to gamble, but it cannot be denied that problem gambling exists and it is a key contributor to the revenue of leagues clubs. I know the clubs put money into the community but they aren't charities and the source of a lot of that money is actually pretty distasteful. Again, I don't think it marks me out as some kind of rampant communist that I'm not entirely in love with the idea that some of Benji Marshall's salary is being paid by people feeding the pokies at Wests Ashfield rather than their families at home.
 
As I've said before, if they put even a quarter of the effort they've devoted to the reforms into helping problem gamblers, it would at least be a step in the right direction. To be honest I didn't support the reforms as proposed by Wilkie but this whole "the ends justify the means" line doesn't wash with me. There comes a time when you have to consider the impact of what you're doing to get the money otherwise we'd still be in the whaling business.
 
@Yossarian said:
As I've said before, if they put even a quarter of the effort they've devoted to the reforms into helping problem gamblers, it would at least be a step in the right direction. To be honest I didn't support the reforms as proposed by Wilkie but this whole "the ends justify the means" line doesn't wash with me. There comes a time when you have to consider the impact of what you're doing to get the money otherwise we'd still be in the whaling business.

Living in Hong Kong at the moment where I pay no more than 15% income tax pa. The reason it is so low is because the Hong Kong Jockey Club invests so much into the community and therefore there is no need for tax payers to pay for a new Hospital or school etc. If the money invested in gambling is re-invested the right way there are some benefits - if managed correctly. I am not saying gambling is a good thing nor a bad thing but you won't stop it so clubs will do what they have to do to keep going and if it is more pokies etc then lets ensure that profits get invested into the junior footbal, darts etc.
 
@Brisbane Tiger said:
2041,

That's what I wanted to hear, brisbane really goes off on game days and I want the same experience but from a tigers perspective like in cambo. What's a good hotel or motel to Stay at???
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Hi BT,

If you're coming down to a game at Leichhardt, the Orange Grove Hotel (very close to the oval) has a great Tigers' vibe before and after the game. I think NZ Tiger actually stayed upstairs in the B&B after a game last year, so that could be an option.
 
Le montage would be an ideal balmain leagues club if it can be redeveloped the right way. Very close to LO
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@2041 said:
@magpiecol said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Agree, I would like to follow a club that doesn't rely on the scourge of problem gambling.

"scourge of problem gambling"?

You are kidding right?

Ask the local kids, the local retirees, the bowling, golf, darts etc etc about relying on clubs. Give yourself an uppercut and stop listening to the left wing loonies.

I don't think you have to be a "left wing loony" to not be totally comfortable with the gaming industry being the main financial backer of your club. Personally I'm ok with letting people largely exercise their free choice to gamble, but it cannot be denied that problem gambling exists and it is a key contributor to the revenue of leagues clubs. I know the clubs put money into the community but they aren't charities and the source of a lot of that money is actually pretty distasteful. Again, I don't think it marks me out as some kind of rampant communist that I'm not entirely in love with the idea that some of Benji Marshall's salary is being paid by people feeding the pokies at Wests Ashfield rather than their families at home.

How do you feel about getting money from people drinking grog until they cannot stand up and cause all sorts of social problems?

If people wish to play the pokies then that is their choice. After all it is their money not yours. No one puts them in a headlock and forces them to play. My wife actually does quite ok on the bet thank you.
 
Problem gamblers in NSW are 4 in 10,000, the lowest in the country (yet we have the most pokies)
Pokie machines money attract a larger number of "recreational gamblers" as a ratio to problem gamblers than online gambling and other forms.

There are far stricter sovereignty in poker machine gambling than other forms of gambling (maximum bets, ATM limits, etc) I think there is alot of extremist thoughts in relation to poker machine gambling, there are gambler holics with problems doing their backsides, but the issue is not as large as some would have us believe.

I feel that the clubs industry should be legislated to pump in a certain of money to address problem gambling, pre commitment and alike will serve no purpose.

All asides tho, the day of the leagues club funding an NRL side are over
 
@2041 said:
@magpiecol said:
@Cultured Bogan said:
Agree, I would like to follow a club that doesn't rely on the scourge of problem gambling.

"scourge of problem gambling"?

You are kidding right?

Ask the local kids, the local retirees, the bowling, golf, darts etc etc about relying on clubs. Give yourself an uppercut and stop listening to the left wing loonies.

I don't think you have to be a "left wing loony" to not be totally comfortable with the gaming industry being the main financial backer of your club. Personally I'm ok with letting people largely exercise their free choice to gamble, but it cannot be denied that problem gambling exists and it is a key contributor to the revenue of leagues clubs. I know the clubs put money into the community but they aren't charities and the source of a lot of that money is actually pretty distasteful. Again, I don't think it marks me out as some kind of rampant communist that I'm not entirely in love with the idea that some of Benji Marshall's salary is being paid by people feeding the pokies at Wests Ashfield rather than their families at home.

I think you are stretching it a bit to say "problem gambling …... is a key contributor to the revenue of the leagues clubs. How many problem gamblers have you talked to in order to ascertain they are a key contributor to the revenue?
 
@Goose said:
Problem gamblers in NSW are 4 in 10,000, the lowest in the country (yet we have the most pokies)
Pokie machines money attract a larger number of "recreational gamblers" as a ratio to problem gamblers than online gambling and other forms.

There are far stricter sovereignty in poker machine gambling than other forms of gambling (maximum bets, ATM limits, etc) I think there is alot of extremist thoughts in relation to poker machine gambling, there are gambler holics with problems doing their backsides, but the issue is not as large as some would have us believe.

I feel that the clubs industry should be legislated to pump in a certain of money to address problem gambling, pre commitment and alike will serve no purpose.

All asides tho, the day of the leagues club funding an NRL side are over

Well said, Goose.
 
The laws target problem gamblers , from what I read in this thread there isn't many problem gamblers in this state , and they won't stop gambling any way , so why are people concerned about the laws ?
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@magpiecol said:
"scourge of problem gambling"?

You are kidding right?

Ask the local kids, the local retirees, the bowling, golf, darts etc etc about relying on clubs. Give yourself an uppercut and stop listening to the left wing loonies.

Not kidding at all bucko.

I don't need to listen to left wing loonies, and nor am I one of them.

What sort of support do the local kids, retirees, bowling, golf and darts clubs generate in order to be able to source sponsorship and merchandising streams? These are amatuer community organisations that leagues clubs are supposed to be supporting.

I, along with others, are aware there is a prevalent problem with gambling, and I don't like to see a professional sports club relying on it when there are plenty of avenues for money to be made through proper marketing, corporate sponsorship and merchandising. I am of the personal opinion that professional sporting clubs that are expectant of grants via leagues clubs are not professional at all.

And lastly, we're all entitled to an opinion, so how about you give yourself an uppercut and try not to be so abrasive next time. Believe it or not, yours is not the only opinion on here, eh?
 
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