Tigers Lui eyes Cowboys return

[happy_tiger]

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Miller is a much better option IMO.

Great goal kicker who can take that pressure off Benji and consolidate more tries for us.

Isn't Benji percentages this season better than Millers I thought

Percentages, Schermentages.

Miller would not miss a goal 15m out, 5m to the right of the upright like Benji did against Manly.

Well I'd prefer Benji kicking at goal for a win over Miller at this stage and percentages are important
They help our for and against
If we kicked less goals this season our forand against would be worse and could cost us a position in the top 4-5
A bit of common sense please Duffy P

Okay, here's some common sense for you, Marshall has missed at least 4 sitters this year. Absolute sitters. That would put us in 5th spot atm. Now, not having seen many games of NYC, who is to say that all of Millers shots at goal have been from the sideline, thus making his percentage lower than Marshalls? Stats lie. Percentages lie. Benji's kicking has at this stage forced us to fly to Suncorp week one of the finals.
So what the Tigers don't score tries out wide and the NYC Tigers do ?? Please :brick: Percentages are the only option you can use and will state again that I would have more faith in Benji kicking a crucial match winner to get us home at this stage than Miller . Benji is proven at the highest levels of the game pressure wise . Millers playing u20's . Quit while you are only a mile behind

 

[Duffy_P]

**So what the Tigers don't score tries out wide and the NYC Tigers do** ?? Please :brick: Percentages are the only option you can use and will state again that I would have more faith in Benji kicking a crucial match winner to get us home at this stage than Miller . Benji is proven at the highest levels of the game pressure wise . Millers playing u20's . Quit while you are only a mile behind

I did not say that we don't score tries out wide. The fact still remains the same, if Miller had 60 shots at goal and 45 of them are from the sideline it stands to reason his percentage would be lower than Marshall's.

Can you comprehend that? Meh, probably not.

 

[Duffy_P]

There is no way that Marshall will be relieved of his goalkicking duties. Just will not happen, so there is no point discussing it IMO.

I'm talking next year here. And why not? If we have a better option in the team why wouldn't we use him?

Will not happen mate. Marshall will be goalkicking for us until he retires.

Even if we had a guy in the team who could kick at El Masri like accuracy? Not saying Miller is that good at kicking though. Marshall was a manufactured goal kicker and has come along alot in the last few months, but surely he would be the second option if Miller was playing?

 

[Duffy_P]

IMO it would be a disaster to lose Lui. Young, talented halfbacks do not grow on trees and we have put alot of work into him.

Where do you rate Miller HT?

I have not seen too much of him but he definitely looks talented. As far as I know he is still eligible for the 20s so I think I would leave him there for next season unless injuries strike.

Fair play. If Lui was to leave and with the exiting of Moltzen would you have him as your halfback next year or would you look for a player from another club to fill the gap while he develops in the 20's?

 

[happy_tiger]

**So what the Tigers don't score tries out wide and the NYC Tigers do** ?? Please :brick: Percentages are the only option you can use and will state again that I would have more faith in Benji kicking a crucial match winner to get us home at this stage than Miller . Benji is proven at the highest levels of the game pressure wise . Millers playing u20's . Quit while you are only a mile behind

I did not say that we don't score tries out wide. The fact still remains the same, if Miller had 60 shots at goal and 45 of them are from the sideline it stands to reason his percentage would be lower than Marshall's.

Can you comprehend that? Meh, probably not.

Mate I was trying to make a point
The only measure there is is percentages .
Point 1 Benji wins that hands down .
Point 2 Sheens won't take the goal kicking off him .
Point 3 Benji is a proven match winner as a goal kicker and a player Why would you want to take the kicking off him He likes doing it .
You made a point about Benji has missed a few sitters
I can remember J.Thurston missing a sitter in an origin game earlier this season Luke Burt against us last season and Jason Croker also
They miss the ones in front or near enough in front from distance due to the fact they don't practise them very often as the call for those type of kicks is far less prevalent than it was 20-30 years ago

 

[Centaur]

So yeh, how about Rob Lui going to the Cowboys…

 

[Duffy_P]

**So what the Tigers don't score tries out wide and the NYC Tigers do** ?? Please :brick: Percentages are the only option you can use and will state again that I would have more faith in Benji kicking a crucial match winner to get us home at this stage than Miller . Benji is proven at the highest levels of the game pressure wise . Millers playing u20's . Quit while you are only a mile behind

I did not say that we don't score tries out wide. The fact still remains the same, if Miller had 60 shots at goal and 45 of them are from the sideline it stands to reason his percentage would be lower than Marshall's.

Can you comprehend that? Meh, probably not.

Mate I was trying to make a point
The only measure there is is percentages .
Point 1 Benji wins that hands down .
Point 2 Sheens won't take the goal kicking off him .
Point 3 Benji is a proven match winner as a goal kicker and a player **Why would you want to take the kicking off him He likes doing it .**
You made a point about Benji has missed a few sitters
I can remember J.Thurston missing a sitter in an origin game earlier this season Luke Burt against us last season and Jason Croker also
They miss the ones in front or near enough in front from distance due to the fact they don't practise them very often as the call for those type of kicks is far less prevalent than it was 20-30 years ago

Geez, I don't know, maybe because it is better for the team???? Last time I checked this was still a team sport.

 

[Tigerdave]

So yeh, how about Rob Lui going to the Cowboys…

yeah I think it would be a dumb idea to let him go considering that Moltzen is going. A lot of us were complaining about a lack of depth in the halves, they'd be nuts letting him go.

 

[Tigerdale]

So yeh, how about Rob Lui going to the Cowboys…

:laughing: :laughing: :laughing:

 

[Tigerdale]

smoking gun ftw

 

[Yossarian]

If there is a plan to replace Lui with Miller, releasing Lui now would be a year too early IMO. Miller is obviously a talent and potentially a very good player but it would be a big call to pencil him in as our starting halfback next year with no safety net if he fails.

If we release Lui and Miller gets injured, what is plan B?

 

[happy_tiger]

If there is a plan to replace Lui with Miller, releasing Lui now would be a year too early IMO. Miller is obviously a talent and potentially a very good player but it would be a big call to pencil him in as our starting halfback next year with no safety net if he fails.

If we release Lui and Miller gets injured, what is plan B?

or Injuries

 

[Tigerdave]

If there is a plan to replace Lui with Miller, releasing Lui now would be a year too early IMO. Miller is obviously a talent and potentially a very good player but it would be a big call to pencil him in as our starting halfback next year with no safety net if he fails.

If we release Lui and Miller gets injured, what is plan B?

or Injuries

yeah it's a concern, we've had some depth in the halves this year and last and now they appear to be moving away from that. I hope he doesn't go, unless there's some truth to the Prince thing or that rumour that sprang up from someone else here about a half on the outer with his coach.

Mind you, I'd still prefer Lui to stay.

 

[1_4_chicken_chips]

Prince will not be taking a 200 k plus drop in pay to come back in live in the penrith area.He is captain of the GC and is living the lifestyle he wants to live .If Lui leaves good luck to him .

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

If there is a plan to replace Lui with Miller, releasing Lui now would be a year too early IMO. Miller is obviously a talent and potentially a very good player but it would be a big call to pencil him in as our starting halfback next year with no safety net if he fails.

If we release Lui and Miller gets injured, what is plan B?

Um….....we signed Steve Georgallis last week. There is plan B.

I don't think Miller is first grade quality as yet.

 

[Muffstar]

If there is a plan to replace Lui with Miller, releasing Lui now would be a year too early IMO. Miller is obviously a talent and potentially a very good player but it would be a big call to pencil him in as our starting halfback next year with no safety net if he fails.

If we release Lui and Miller gets injured, what is plan B?

Um….....we signed Steve Georgallis last week. There is plan B.

I don't think Miller is first grade quality as yet.

You don't assume that Georgallis will play do you ?

He is assistant coach - I may have misunderstood your post ?

 

[tigersrule4life]

I was see the replay game on fox sports just now and andrew johns said there were talks robert lui might go to cowboys but he spoke with our ceo and our ceo said his staying :smiley:😀

 

[WestsSupporter]

those people blaming benji for missing sitters, here's some food for thought. chad townsend played NYC and kicked 90-odd%. he comes into nrl and has so much more pressure on him thus he misses a few more than he did before.

the goal you kick never changes its just the situation that does.

 

[smoking_gun]

Lui reminds me of a young thurston.. Offensively above average but defensively very poor. The bulldogs made the mistake of letting him go and going with sherwin, who at the time was playing great footy… Just have a feeling this could be similar to that scenario.

 

[happy_tiger]

those people blaming benji for missing sitters, here's some food for thought. chad townsend played NYC and kicked 90-odd%. he comes into nrl and has so much more pressure on him thus he misses a few more than he did before.

the goal you kick never changes its just the situation that does.

Thank You Wests Supporter