Tigers set the record straight on plans for future

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Tigers set the record straight on plans for future
July 16, 2011


Rebuilding Tiger town … supporters have been left to wait and see the results as Wests Tigers reconfigures its line-up including bringing in Kiwi international Adam Blair. Photo: Steve Christo

Adam Blair is just one piece of the puzzle put together, writes Glenn Jackson.

FOR a saga which, at the heart of it, is about rugby league being a business, it is quite fitting that we begin with an analogy to the sharemarket.

''The sharemarket's about future expectations,'' Wests Tigers chief executive Stephen Humphreys says. ''It's not about past performance. That's the reality of it. When it comes to managing a roster, you can't just look in the rear-view mirror at last year. You have to be looking forward, as to how certain players are developing, or plateauing, and what opportunities you have coming up.''

Humphreys is explaining the arrival of Melbourne's Kiwi international Adam Blair. He is entitled to a ''what the hell just happened?'' look. He should have been trumpeting the signature of one of the world's best forwards, yet after the departures of Bryce Gibbs, Andrew Fifita, Wade McKinnon and Tim Moltzen, he has instead been cursing the frenzied speculation that accompanied his club's courting of the Storm player. It was innuendo which - at its most damaging - suggested the current players were disheartened and disharmonious.

With Blair's signature now on the contract, Humphreys admits parts of the process could have been handled better. Officials largely kept quiet while the club lurched from loss of game to loss of players. But he says there has always been more than meets the eye. It is not a case simply of one [in Blair] into four [Gibbs, Fifita, McKinnon and Moltzen] equalling turmoil.

''Regrettably, there's been a whole bunch of talk that I'm not the source of,'' Humphreys says. ''I've tried to slow it down and put it in its proper perspective, but people want to talk. We've been linked with Adam for quite a while, but until things are done … We just needed all our ducks in a row. I know that we've conducted ourselves professionally and appropriately. I would have liked it to have been quicker, but I'm not in control of that.

''I'd like people to try to understand that it's not just a one-act play. It's a number of conversations or matters that are separate but become interwoven … Whilst I understand a responsibility to keep people informed, my higher responsibility is to get it done the right way. Hopefully, in the fullness of time, people can see what we're doing, and see the full picture - not just Adam Blair being brought in for three or four others.''

So what is it about? For starters, coach Tim Sheens, along with his support staff, decided that he wanted a bigger, more aggressive pack. He won a competition in 2005 with a group of forwards which was, comparatively, quite lightweight. But he believes the game has changed since then. ''For us to be real contenders, not just one year but consistently, we need to be a bit bigger and stronger,'' Humphreys says. ''There have been instances where we have been out-muscled or out-wrestled, and the view is that we needed to address that.

''So there's someone like an Adam Blair, who has achieved so much already at age 25, and comes out of a very successful, professional club - well-prepared if you like - has that aggression and a winning attitude that we wanted to get.''

As they chased Blair, the club let Fifita and Gibbs join Cronulla, while talk festered that lock Chris Heighington wanted to join Penrith, along with winger Beau Ryan, knowing that Blair's arrival might relegate him to the bench.

Now, Humphreys says: ''Both boys [Heighington and Ryan] are staying.''

Along with others. The contracts of Chris Lawrence, Blake Ayshford, Simon Dwyer and Aaron Woods have been upgraded. ''They're young blokes in their early 20s who we think will have hopefully the next decade here at Wests Tigers'', Humphreys says.

He has also retained younger players like James Tedesco, David Nufoaluma, Kyle Lovett, Curtis Sironen, Tim Simona, Matt Groat and Neil Begovich.

Humphreys said he was reluctant to talk up those young players as being part of the reason for the mini-exodus but maintained all had been made offers from elsewhere. ''We've made a decision to back those guys and to be able to provide them some opportunity in the squad and in our cap going forward,'' he says. ''We'll always be a development club; we're fortunate to have a good nursery, and a lot of our effort and investment goes into developing that talent and giving them opportunity.''

Thus: ''To say it's Adam Blair is ridiculous. Adam's a marquee signing that any club would be happy to be able to bring in. Support that with another couple of experienced players [fellow new signings Joel Reddy and Matthew Bell], four or five key players that will form the nucleus of the side going forward on upgraded contracts, and then we've got six or eight of our current NYC (National Youth Competition) squad that will come through and have long first-grade careers … That's the context.

''I understand that if people haven't been aware of that whole piece, they could make an incorrect assumption around Adam. But now that we're in a position to talk about the complete picture, people will understand that, and put the Adam piece in the puzzle. But it's not the only piece.

''It's not an exact science,'' he says. ''The football brains at our place have made their judgments, and it's my job to back that and try to make it happen. We're quite happy to be judged on what happens down the track.''

Read more: http://www.smh.com.au/rugby-league/league-news/tigers-set-the-record-straight-on-plans-for-future-20110715-1hhtz.html#ixzz1SBRVi5tP
 
As for contract speculation:
"Now, Humphreys says: ''Both boys [Heighington and Ryan] are staying.''

Along with others. The contracts of Chris Lawrence, Blake Ayshford, Simon Dwyer and Aaron Woods have been upgraded. ''They're young blokes in their early 20s who we think will have hopefully the next decade here at Wests Tigers'', Humphreys says.

He has also retained younger players like James Tedesco, David Nufoaluma, Kyle Lovett, Curtis Sironen, Tim Simona, Matt Groat and Neil Begovich."
 
I realise that many of you are more accustomed to 'corporate-speak' than I am, but honestly I wish Humphreys would drop the meaningless expressions and just speak the plain truth. What does 'going forward' mean? You can't go in any other direction in time, can you? What does having your 'ducks in a row' mean?

"But now we're in a position to put the complete picture, people will understand that and put the Adam piece in the puzzle." What? This kind of use of metaphor tells us that we ain't hearing the story…still.

Unanswered questions: Why were Bryce Gibbs' and Andrew Fifita's contracts upgraded earlier this year?
What was plan B if none of the players had chosen to leave? Would that have meant that we didn't get Blair?
So, does this mean that the problem with Bryce was size? Or Fifita? Come on.

I'm still stupid enough to think that I follow a football team not a corporate entity.
 
Good article, always knew there was more to it, it's all happend and condition out now, who cares y ppl were resigned then let go, it's for the better in the end, it's out in the open so let's cut the negativity and get on with it, tigers!!!!
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All good bar one thing:
"Tim Sheens, along with his support staff, decided that he wanted a bigger, more aggressive pack. He won a competition in 2005 with a group of forwards which was, comparatively, quite lightweight. But he believes the game has changed since then. '' It's taken him SIX YEARS to realise the game has changed?
 
plans for the future are now securely in place.

concentrate on the PRESENT and GET INTO THE FINALS.

anything less than that will be seen as a failure of a season.
 
I think the game has changed this year. There is way more wrestling going on, flops now allowed again etc This was confirmed in a stitch up on the footy show when they were interviewig parra players about Hindy. When talking about his high tackle count each game the player said "because we are allowed to flop again".

It obvious the Tigers "mobile" pack isn't suited to the new interpretations.
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Im petty dissapointed we are loosing gibbsy and fetus.But I guess the purchase of Blair has to be a plus.Gibbsy will always be a Wests boy forever ,so Ill allways keep an eye on him.AS for Molzi ..He is a halfback and unfortunetly Lui has been first choice.I think the Dragons would have be crazy to play him at fullback.GO Tigers
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You ALMOST redeemed yourself there Humpty. But stop playing this trickery with smoke and mirrors and tell the PAYING life-long supporters the REAL reasons why current contracts were cut short WELL before their expiry. You DOGGED the players who are the ones out there getting belted and bleed for the club.
 
This year is over…...judge them from next year onwards is what he's saying.

All this garbage, sacrificing a season to sign blair and rely on a large group of untried youngsters.

Just take Lui for example, can anyone say he's a first graders after 3 years?
 
@crouching_tiger said:
You ALMOST redeemed yourself there Humpty. But stop playing this trickery with smoke and mirrors and tell the PAYING life-long supporters the REAL reasons why current contracts were cut short WELL before their expiry. You DOGGED the players who are the ones out there getting belted and bleed for the club.

You seem to be in the know, how about you finally become the hero you've been trying to be and tell all the "PAYING life-long supporters" what you know instead of acting like a crusader.

Just for information, the players who get "belted and bleed for the club" get paid handsomely and some overs, for the privilege champ :wink:
 
@softlaw said:
All good bar one thing:
"Tim Sheens, along with his support staff, decided that he wanted a bigger, more aggressive pack. He won a competition in 2005 with a group of forwards which was, comparatively, quite lightweight. But he believes the game has changed since then. '' It's taken him SIX YEARS to realise the game has changed?

I think once we get a bigger pack they will crack down on wrestling in the ruck :wink:

Honestly the talent coming through our 20's is very good at the moment, also heard we have pinched a promising back rower from the junior bulldogs (Brenden Santi who has just been named in the Australian Schoolboys side).

I know some people bag our recruitment but honestly whoever has been in charge of the junior recruitment lately has done an outstanding job.
 
@tigergirlz said:
Is Marika Koroibete signed?? Winger extraordinaire (sic)
He should be on the list of Toyota Cup players signed for 2012

I believe he is under contract for at least next year. I think the coaching staff have very high hopes for him but don't want to put pressure on him by putting his name in the media spotlight. For mine he could be a very good NRL winger. A few good judges of playing talent I know thing he will be in the NRL side by mid next year.
 
@Chris said:
@crouching_tiger said:
You ALMOST redeemed yourself there Humpty. But stop playing this trickery with smoke and mirrors and tell the PAYING life-long supporters the REAL reasons why current contracts were cut short WELL before their expiry. You DOGGED the players who are the ones out there getting belted and bleed for the club.

You seem to be in the know, how about you finally become the hero you've been trying to be and tell all the "PAYING life-long supporters" what you know instead of acting like a crusader.

Just for information, the players who get "belted and bleed for the club" get paid handsomely and some overs, for the privilege champ :wink:

ouch !! touche chris
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cleanout has come couple of seasons too late in my mind.

this should of happened straight away when the new rules were brought in, having smaller pack for all these years only to realise now is a bit silly.

i said it before and someone mentioned it in thier post also, what happens if they speed the ruck up again like years ago?

obviously going forward sheens has had word from the referee's boss that the flop is here to stay and that the current state of play in that area will remain.

i could of sworn my brother told me he watched footy show some weeks ago and those clowns on the panel were saying that the future of the big front rower will die out and a mobile leaner pack will be the norm.
 

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