Tigers Vs Dragons Previews

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Dragons v Wests Tigers
ANZ Stadium
Saturday 7.45pm

Sorry Dragons fans, but the eerily familiar, déjà-vu like circumstances of this preliminary final are too blatant to overlook: in 2005 the week-rested Dragons trotted out as firm favourites to advance to the NRL grand final, but were ripped to shreds by the underdog Tigers – who went on to win the title the following week. Gulp.

So what’s changed to suggest that won’t happen again?

Plenty.

The Dragons have two years of grinding consistency behind them under the best coach in the business, including two minor premierships. Yes they were bundled out in ‘straight sets’ in last year’s finals race but their ruthless 28-0 demolition of the Sea Eagles a fortnight ago showed they have the mental focus required to take the title in 2010\. For 60 minutes the Dragons strangled the Sea Eagles, repelled their best attacking efforts, then unleashed a barrage of tries in the final 20 minutes. It showed they are a disciplined, measured unit who can still turn on the strike-power when they need to.

Meanwhile the Tigers are riding a wave of enthusiasm and good form. They’ve won four of their past six, the two defeats narrow ones to the Titans (21-18) in Round 26 and Roosters (19-15) in Week One of the finals, when a try to Shaun Kenny-Dowall against the run of play in the 100th minute sealed the result.

Supposedly busted and riddled with injuries, they were given no chance against the Raiders in Canberra last week, but took that game by the scruff of the neck early and repelled a brave Raiders comeback.

Benji Marshall showed no signs of a knee injury that many feared would sideline him for the rest of the season, and all their troops left the nation’s capital fairly healthy.

Which brings us to this week.

The Dragons have had a fortnight to drill their squad, which is unchanged from the Sea Eagles win. Meanwhile the Tigers have made the odd shuffle on paper – Todd Payten moves from the back row to start at prop, with Liam Fulton elevated from the bench to start in the second row. Bryce Gibbs will enter the game off the bench, which also boasts Ben Murdoch-Masila, **Sean** Dwyer and Daniel Fitzhenry. Mark Flanagan is in jersey no.18 with the promising Andrew Fifita – who has only seen 23 minutes of game time in the Tigers’ past two matches – in no.19\. (We doubt he’ll get a run.)

Some random points of interest: the Dragons have won 14 of the 16 times they’ve led at halftime in 2010; Neville Costigan, Jeremy Smith and Michael Weyman have each lost to the Tigers just once in their careers – but the Dragons have won only five of 13 games when playing in front of crowds in excess of 40,000.

Watch out Dragons: They need to watch Lote Tuqiri, Benji Marshall, Robbie Farah and the back-rowers Liam Fulton and Gareth Ellis… although not necessarily in that order.

Farah and Marshall are masters of the lateral drift, where they inflict pain on oppositions one of three ways: they’ll dummy outside before picking up Ellis, Fulton or Chris Heighington on the inside… or they’ll dummy to inside runners and shift wide to the flanks… or they may even run themselves.

The biggest worry for the Dragons is reading Marshall – the Tigers have thrown more dummies at the line than any other team (462). But the double whammy is Marshall is likely to throw four dummies in two seconds – then put on a sprint of his own. He doesn’t need to score points from such moves – he just needs to get the Dragons in two minds and start to break up their rigid defensive structure. If he can achieve this, the points will come.

On their side of the weakness ledger, Jamie Soward needs to have his best goal-kicking boots on. Over the past few weeks even the most accurate kickers in Michael Gordon and Jarrod Croker have missed ‘gimme’ shots at goal that have consigned their sides to defeat and an NRL exit. Soward is ranked 13th in the comp for goalkicking with a worrying 72 per cent.

The Dragons need to improve on their pressure-building down the other end too – they have forced their opponents into the fewest line drop-out restarts all year (just 24).

Watch out Wests Tigers: The Tigers need to unsettle the Dragons and not allow them to get into their rhythm. The Red V have completed more sets than any side all year (78.5 per cent), missed the least tackles (659) and conceded the fewest line-breaks (3.2 per game).

Also, they need to somehow find a way to limit Mark Gasnier’ impact – he’s scored 20 tries from his past 13 games against the Tigers, to become the most prolific tryscorer against them.

While they are the masters of razzle-dazzle within their own half (see below) the Tigers need to make sure they don’t surrender possession down their end of the field – something they’ve done far too often in 2010 (78 handling errors in their own half – second most in the NRL). They can’t afford to do that in a grand final qualifier.

Where it will be won: Defence. That might sound strange given the Wests Tigers are arguably the biggest entertainers in the NRL, but hear us out.

Tim Sheens’ boys are the masters of innovative attack – they’ve thrown the most passes within their own half (2480). They also lead the comp for tries scored from long range, with 23 originating from within their own half – the latest to Lote Tuqiri off a beautiful set play from a scrum last week. But here they come up against the most disciplined side in the competition, one that has given up a miserly 299 points all year (just 11.9 a game!) and let in just four tries from long range – the fewest by any side.

Neither team really has a weak side of the field – the Dragons have conceded an even spread of 20 tries on their left side and 19 on their right, while the Tigers have conceded 31 tries on each of their left and right sides. So, good defensive reads will be crucial for both teams.

But the Dragons’ scramble defence might hold the key – they led the comp with 121 try saves through Round 26, while the Tigers had a middle-of-the-road 88.

The history: Played 19; Dragons 10, Wests Tigers 9\. The Wests Tigers have won five of the past eight clashes and hold a 3-2 advantage in games played at ANZ Stadium. But the Dragons have won the past two encounters, including a 34-10 win at Kogarah in Round 16.

The last time the sides met at ANZ Stadium, in 2007, the Wests Tigers scored their biggest ever win over the Dragons (27-8).

Conclusion: The pace of play in the first 20 minutes will provide a great guide as to how this game will pan out.

The Tigers are the masters of getting a roll on, having recorded the smallest percentage of slow play-the-balls all year (7.8 per cent). Meanwhile opposition sides have tried to negate the Dragons by slowing them down, restricting them to the highest number of slow play-the-balls (11.8 per cent). That suggests the Tigers are in with a show of dictating terms – although it should be remembered that despite all the muzzling efforts of other sides all year, the Dragons still won the minor premiership.

It should be a close game for a while, although logic suggests leg weariness from a hard past few weeks should affect the Tigers at some stage. When it does, the Dragons have the firepower to rip their opponents apart. Look for that to happen in the final 20 minutes. Dragons to win.

Match officials: Referees – Shayne Hayne & Ben Cummins; Sideline Officials – David Abood & Russell Turner; Video Ref – Steve Clark.

Televised: Channel Nine – Live from 7.30pm; Fox Sports – Delayed 10.30pm.

Source: nrl.com
 
they talk about the Dragons win over Manly like it was some amazing thing

How many players were out in Manly either suspended or injured??

WE CAN DO IT!

:sign:
 
Preview: St George Illawarra v Wests Tigers, NRL second preliminary final
By Sean Miller
September 22, 2010 .Foxsports.com.au and rugby league legend Laurie Daley bring you everything you need to know about Saturday's second preliminary final between St George Illawarra and Wests Tigers.

WHAT, WHERE & WHEN:
Second Preliminary Final, ANZ Stadium, 7.45pm (EST) Saturday

FORM GUIDE:
WWWLW (St George Illawarra); WLLWW (Wests Tigers)

THE NEXT STEP:
Dragons: A win secures St George Illawarra a grand final berth, their first trip to the big dance since the club's inaugural season of 1999\. A loss and the minor premiers would have to classify season 2010 another failure.

Tigers: A victory books the Tigers a place in the grand final, five years after their maiden premiership of 2005\. A loss will be a case of so near, yet so far for a team that can proud of their achievements this season.

TALE OF THE TAPE:
The Dragons outclassed the Tigers 34-10 at WIN Jubilee Oval in round 16, in the only meeting between the two clubs in 2010\. The Tigers were experiencing a mid-year resurgence at the time with the clinical Dragons bringing their four-game winning streak to a screeching halt. But the real story here is the fact this game shapes as a mirror-image to the preliminary final of 2005 when the Tigers upset the highly-fancied Dragons on their way to the title. The Dragons are fresh, focussed and will have revenge on their minds. The big question is whether the speed and unpredictability of the Tigers attack can penetrate the Dragons defence. The sudden-death factor will only make this battle a more intriguing one as the best defensive team in the competition face-off with one of the NRL true entertainers.

STATS AMAZING:
The Dragons have only conceded an average of 2.1 tries a game this season. The Tigers rank an impressive fourth this season in points scored, tries scored and tackle busts. However, those numbers didn't help the Tigers against the Dragons in round 16\. Benji Marshall has provided more linebreak assists than any other player in the NRL this season, the Tigers' five-eighth will be the focal point on Saturday night.

KEY MATCH-UP:
Dean Young v Robbie Farah: Both hookers will be charged with not only leading their respective forward packs but providing delivery to two fairly level halves pairings. While Farah is one of the most dynamic dummy-half runners in the game, the Dragons' makeshift hooker will need to hold his own around the ruck to ensure St George Illawarra have enough opportunities to strike should the Tigers put points on the board early.

TALK THE TALK:
"I think in '05 we were the best side and we didn't aim up in the grand final qualifier, we got beaten by a better side on the day and that still hurts today." Dragons hooker Dean Young reflects on their last finals match-up against the Tigers.

"We've got this far off the way we've been playing so we're not going to change that now and go into our shell and play conservative." Tigers star playmaker Benji Marshall on his side's attacking style of play.

MATCH ODDS: St George Illawarra $1.45, Wests Tigers $2.75 (TAB Sportsbet; 22/9).

LAURIE DALEY SAYS:
"Everyone is looking forward to this match to see how much the Dragons have improved from last season. St George Illawarra will have a burning desire to prove to critics that their style of football wins finals games. I’ve got no doubt they’re capable of doing that, as long as they’re playing from in front. I will be very interested to see what strategy the Dragons employ if the Tigers can get themselves two tries in front. The thing that worries me most about the match-hardened Tigers is the fact they have faded in the last 20 minutes of their last two matches. Injuries have played a big part in that and there’s always the risk that fatigue might be starting to take its toll. If the Tigers are to win they need to get out of the blocks quickly with Benji Marshall stamping his authority. I just think the Dragons are fresh, focussed and have enough motivation to steel themselves for a solid 80-minute performance."

DALEY'S PREDICTION:
Dragons by six.
 
Geez, I bet Simon Dwyer is peed off that Sean got a run ahead of him. 😕
 
@izotope said:
LAURIE DALEY SAYS:
"Everyone is looking forward to this match to see how much the Dragons have improved from last season. St George Illawarra will have a burning desire to prove to critics that their style of football wins finals games. I’ve got no doubt they’re capable of doing that, as long as they’re playing from in front. I will be very interested to see what strategy the Dragons employ if the Tigers can get themselves two tries in front. The thing that worries me most about the match-hardened Tigers is the fact they have faded in the last 20 minutes of their last two matches. Injuries have played a big part in that and there’s always the risk that fatigue might be starting to take its toll. If the Tigers are to win they need to get out of the blocks quickly with Benji Marshall stamping his authority. I just think the Dragons are fresh, focussed and have enough motivation to steel themselves for a solid 80-minute performance."

DALEY'S PREDICTION:
Dragons by six.

Ummm…I believe Mr Daley informed a group of Wests Tigers supporters at the conclusion of the Raiders game that Wests Tigers will go all the way and win the comp..

Newsflash Snozz in order to do that we need to get over the Dragons first... :unamused:

Oh and don't worry about fatigue...We have Steve Folkes..we can go 80 even 100...can the Dragons?
 
Preview: Dragons v Wests Tigers
Scott Brooks

VENUE & TIME: ANZ Stadium, Saturday, September 25, 7.45pm (AEST)
COVERAGE: Channel 9
HEAD TO HEAD Played 19, Dragons 10, Tigers 9
IN 2010: Dragons 34 – Tigers 10 at WIN Jubilee Oval, Round 16, 2010

WALKING WOUNDED: Dragons coach Wayne Bennett has stuck with the same starting 13 that did the job against Manly a fortnight ago. Nick Emmett, Kyle Stanley, Jon Green and Luke Priddis have all been added to form part of an eight-man extended bench that will have to be culled by four come kick-off. The Tigers had a host of doubtful players heading into their blockbuster clash with Canberra last Friday night and all emerged unscathed much to the delight of coach Tim Sheens. Half-back Robert Lui (corked thigh), Gareth Ellis (back) and Bryce Gibbs (ankle) have been closely monitored during the week, but all three are certain to play. Unfortunately, big prop Todd Payten rolled his ankle at training on Wednesday and remains in huge doubt. Players unavailable for selection include Wade McKinnon (hamstring), Geoff Daniela (hamstring) and Tim Moltzen (knee).

FORM: Not everyone was convinced with the Dragons following their comprehensive 28-0 drubbing of a depleted Sea Eagles in the first week of the finals, but anyone who has watched their matches closely this season would realise this is the way this Wayne Bennett-coached side operates. There is little risk in their play and the fact they chose to take a series of penalty goals in the Manly match, suggests they will do whatever it takes to win regardless of how the critics view it. It's been a successful formula for the minor premiers throughout the season and in Bennett's eyes there's no reason for anything to change in the finals. The Tigers, on the other hand, love the risk and we saw just how dangerous they can be with the ball in hand against the Raiders at a sold out Canberra Stadium last Friday night. We also saw how fragile their defence can be at times, particularly close to the try line and this is an area that will have to be looked into before Saturday night. The 26-24 win over Canberra was a triumph on many levels for the Tigers, most importantly in the area of injured players emerging unscathed.

WHO'S HOT: It's been a slow process in terms of rediscovering his best form, but Dragons centre Mark Gasnier finally appears to posing a threat again to opposition defences. A stint in French rugby union isn't exactly slave labour and 'Gaz' has found the going tough since returning to the powerful NRL. That was until the first week of the finals against Manly when a brilliant 70m solo try capped off an impressive 80 minute performance from the former Test star. He is back and now displaying the sort of X factor qualities this Dragons side so desperately requires. The Tigers have their own pot of gold in Benji Marshall. There is little doubt the enterprising No.6 is at the peak of his powers and his first rate showing in both attack and defence against the Raiders proves that he is on song at the right time of the season. It's been a while since Benji has been part of finals footy and he appears to be making the most of the opportunity.

WE THINK: They say you've got to be strong defensively to win big finals games and the Dragons will certainly be taking a formidable defensive record into this game. But as we saw in last year's finals series, and at odd stages throughout this year, the minor premiers do tend to drop their bundle a tad when falling behind in pressure matches. All it would take on Saturday night is for the passes of the flamboyant Tigers to stick and Dragons could find themselves under the pump. This is where composure will be crucial for the Dragons because the Tigers are just as likely to back up a breathtaking piece of attacking play with a shoddy piece of defence or a dropped ball. Coach Bennett will no doubt be aware of this and the fact the Tigers have struggled at the back end of games of late. After a week off, rhythm may pose a problem for the Dragons early in the game, but expect them to hit the methodical button as the match progresses to eventually wear the Tigers down. A win by the Dragons would go a long way to exacting revenge for that painful 2005 preliminary loss to the Tigers. Dragons by 6.
 
St George Illawarra Dragons v Wests Tigers
Greg Prichard
September 24, 2010

Saturday, ANZ Stadium, 7.45pm
Referees: Shayne Hayne, Ben Cummins
Head to head: Dragons 10, Tigers 9
Last time: Dragons 34 bt Tigers 10 at WIN Jubilee Oval (round 16, 2010)
Record in finals: Dragons 9-9, Tigers 5-1
TAB SportsBet: Dragons $1.45, Tigers $2.75
FootyTab: Tigers +6.5

The Dragons won easily over the Sea Eagles in week one of the finals. It was expected, because the Dragons had been the most consistent team all year and had powered into the finals despite resting key players in a dominant last-round win over the Rabbitohs, but you've still got to go out and do it and the Dragons did it very professionally. They took opportunities to kick penalty goals to gradually draw away from the Sea Eagles and when the victory was assured they stretched out in attack during the last 20 minutes. They looked like they were keeping a fair bit up their sleeve.

The Tigers showed plenty of character last weekend, when, after suffering a heartbreaking loss to the Roosters in week one of the finals they went on the road and beat the Raiders. They only just lasted in the end, but the Raiders went into that game as a red-hot team. The problem for the Tigers is that the Dragons have the best defence in the competition, and the Tigers can be slack in defence. If the Dragons can get away to a decent lead, it's going to be very difficult for the Tigers to run them down. The Tigers need to produce 80 minutes of total commitment to give themselves a chance.
 

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