Tim Grant - Commits till 2018..

It's completely dependent on form of Grant.
I'm a fan of his hard charges but other than that his quite one dimensional, that said although he has a good motor he gets lost in the middle of the game as he isn't typically an impact player. His style is similar to Twal and I just don't see that working well in tandem.
My thoughts are, Starting with Grant and Packer to roll through the sets to start the game, it will provide a better platform for an interchange with Matolino (a very talented forward, charges well, cover defends excellently and has an offload and nice pass to boot) and Twal, (we've seen recently how stable Twal is and would probably be pick to be a starter in a couple of years but for now really holds down that period in the middle) to play through the middle of the match.
Just my thoughts.
 
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.
 
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?
 
I don't think it's a bad thing. Out of all the props left on the market I don't think we could have done much better. If he performs he'll have a spot and if not he'll find himself shaking hands with Brett Hodgson. You can never have too many props, especially ones with Grant's level of experience.
 
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

Much stronger Mats and Packer are a huge upgrade on Woods and Ava. I don't really rate Woods for the money he demands. I know I'm in a minority but I don't think he is a rep level player.
 
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

I think so. Time will tell but I think our pack locks a lot better and our middle forward rotation will be really good.
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

Much stronger Mats and Packer are a huge upgrade on Woods and Ava. I don't really rate Woods for the money he demands. I know I'm in a minority but I don't think he is a rep level player.

I agree with you. Woods is great when he is getting a lot of offloads away. If he isn't he isn't very good.
 
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

Yes - we didn't have Twal and Eisenhuth a couple of months ago. That is a big +
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

Yes - we didn't have Twal and Eisenhuth a couple of months ago. That is a big +

After last season I had hoped JJ Felice would kick on and play more NRL - what happened to him this year ??
 
I fear he's on too much money, but there's nothing we could do about that. He would have been on about 500k at Penrith and Souths which is why they wanted to offload him as he was no longer value for money.

While we weren't paying all his salary initially i reckon his option would have been at least 400k given his age, experience and former rep player status. Is he worth 4-450k for us? I don't think he is. But this extension was pre-negotiated so there's nothing we could do about it. And he probably coudl get as much with us for one year as he could for 2 elsewhere.

If it were open negotiations i'd say he'd be on half that much which would reflect his squad status, far from a guaranteed member of the top 17 but an experienced pro to help our younguns.
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

Yes - we didn't have Twal and Eisenhuth a couple of months ago. That is a big +

After last season I had hoped JJ Felice would kick on and play more NRL - what happened to him this year ??

Me too, I thought this was going to be his year. With the emergence of Marsters, Hooth and Twal though, and with our gains for next year, he's been lost in the shuffle. I think even Grant will be ahead of him in the pecking order in 2018.
 
We've got a lot of cap space still next year, smart spreading of depth in all positions is a positive.

With Grant, clearly he's already in the system and fits Cleary's broader plan. That's enough for me.
 
He's a solid retention. Won't let anyone down, good mentor and wouldn't be at top dollar. Our leadership group will be partially wiped out next year. It's good to have a few of these guys stay on.

I'm very happy with how management are handling the cap. No need to jump into any more purchases unless they are quality. If we have $'s left, we can front load some of the cap so that we're better placed to jump on high profile signings for 2019/20\. The current group should be competitive next year at a minimum.
 
Had a feeling that Grant would stay on. Also confident Huth and ET signings will be completed as well. Ivan has been saying lately, when the recruitment subject is brought up, that we are nearly there, just a couple of spots to fill. I think these retentions are part of that and can't see WT's doing too much more now.
Personally, I think we are short a quality, hard running second rower and a fast, strong winger. Maybe there are still 2 spots left.
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
The option was in his favour nothing WT could do. A prop rotation of Mats, Packer, Twal and TG is solid. Sue and Aloai can also play in the middle so we are well covered for props.

Mats and Packer for Woods and Ava. The rest stays the same. Are we that much stronger next year?

Yes - we didn't have Twal and Eisenhuth a couple of months ago. That is a big +

True, they are both looking great but there is still a question mark over them lasting a full season. I'm not a big fan of Grant or Packer either really.
I'm hopeful for next year but I'd rather have had one more quality prop.
 
@ said:
I fear he's on too much money, but there's nothing we could do about that. He would have been on about 500k at Penrith and Souths which is why they wanted to offload him as he was no longer value for money.

While we weren't paying all his salary initially i reckon his option would have been at least 400k given his age, experience and former rep player status. Is he worth 4-450k for us? I don't think he is. But this extension was pre-negotiated so there's nothing we could do about it. And he probably coudl get as much with us for one year as he could for 2 elsewhere.

If it were open negotiations i'd say he'd be on half that much which would reflect his squad status, far from a guaranteed member of the top 17 but an experienced pro to help our younguns.

I don't think he is on big money at all. Its been reported that the Knights were interested in signing Grant but he wanted too much coin, there were no other clubs interested - so he had to take up his option with us. That tells me we're not paying overs.
 
@ said:
@ said:
I fear he's on too much money, but there's nothing we could do about that. He would have been on about 500k at Penrith and Souths which is why they wanted to offload him as he was no longer value for money.

While we weren't paying all his salary initially i reckon his option would have been at least 400k given his age, experience and former rep player status. Is he worth 4-450k for us? I don't think he is. But this extension was pre-negotiated so there's nothing we could do about it. And he probably coudl get as much with us for one year as he could for 2 elsewhere.

If it were open negotiations i'd say he'd be on half that much which would reflect his squad status, far from a guaranteed member of the top 17 but an experienced pro to help our younguns.

I don't think he is on big money at all. Its been reported that the Knights were interested in signing Grant but he wanted too much coin, there were no other clubs interested - so he had to take up his option with us. That tells me we're not paying overs.

His option was written in to his contract when he was a quality starting player on good money. It would be highly unlikely the final year in his favour was on significantly less money than the other years. It would have been a similar if not equal amount.
 
@ said:
@ said:
@ said:
I fear he's on too much money, but there's nothing we could do about that. He would have been on about 500k at Penrith and Souths which is why they wanted to offload him as he was no longer value for money.

While we weren't paying all his salary initially i reckon his option would have been at least 400k given his age, experience and former rep player status. Is he worth 4-450k for us? I don't think he is. But this extension was pre-negotiated so there's nothing we could do about it. And he probably coudl get as much with us for one year as he could for 2 elsewhere.

If it were open negotiations i'd say he'd be on half that much which would reflect his squad status, far from a guaranteed member of the top 17 but an experienced pro to help our younguns.

I don't think he is on big money at all. Its been reported that the Knights were interested in signing Grant but he wanted too much coin, there were no other clubs interested - so he had to take up his option with us. That tells me we're not paying overs.

His option was written in to his contract when he was a quality starting player on good money. It would be highly unlikely the final year in his favour was on significantly less money than the other years. It would have been a similar if not equal amount.

Hopefully he "plays for a contract" for all of 2019 and he gives us his best all year.
 
https://twitter.com/BuzzRothfield/status/1002141318406025217

Buzz

@NRLKnights likely to pick up @WestsTigers forward Tim Grant before June 30 deadline
 

Latest posts

Members online

Back
Top