Tim Sheens’ era still haunting Benji Marshall

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A good article if a little obvious and to an extent while I hear the "organising half" stuff touted a lot there is no way on Earth that Robert Lui was "calling plays" in 2010/11\. Farah was calling all the plays and Lui and Marshall were both playing as dynamic five-eighths. It worked in those years because of the presence of Lui no doubt but not because he was playing as an organising half. It was just because he and Marshall were both playing well. It's the same way we are playing now with Marshall and Sironen.

Wrong buddy totally have no idea

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Well, Lui left in rather abrupt circumstances leaving him kinda screwed for 2012\. Then he signed Braith?

Don't think sheens was as bad as many portray him on here. But moving him on for Potter was definitely the better option. I still regard him as a good coach but we needed some fresh air and potter brings that. Hopefully it'll continue if the board allow potter to get his own assistants etc.

To be clear, i'm not saying sheens was brilliant but this forum has gone off on a bit of an anti-Sheens circle jerk, i mean he wasn't the DEVIL! he had some bad luck with injuries and made some mistakes in 2012 and we went below expectations. And a lot of those expectations were riding on Benji and Blair. Blair was a dud, the lack of a 7 had more impact than many thought it would.

Very well said. Sheens had his faults (namely picking unsuitable blokes to fill in the halves positions) but he isn't responsible for every bad situation our club has found itself in like some people would have you believe.

Sheens brought Lui along nicely and after his early defensive issues Lui formed a great partnership with Benji for a season or two. Things were rosy. Then Lui goes on a bender and assaults his missus and is sacked from our club- **it wasn't Sheens' fault that Lui stuffed up and cost us a blossoming halves combination that could of gone on to superstardom.** So Sheens had done the spadework and finally found us a good half who worked well with Benji so it is not like he never produced a good halfback.

I am convinced if Armageddon ever comes to planet Earth some people on here will go to their graves screaming "SHEEEEEEEEEEENS!" as they are obliterated.

Yet you conveniently forget/omit the four years earlier…four long dry years

No I didn't, read the first paragraph.

You say 4 years? We had Prince still in '06 and Lui in '10 so that ain't 4 years in my book.

 

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The thing is Benji simply doesn't have the same running game that he used to have and its got nothing to do with coaching. He is simply older and slower and he needs to do things differently. Chip kicks in the last couple of minutes of the first half when you are only slightly down are not the things he should be doing.