Tim Simona

When these players are sacked and barred from the game for a certain period of time, the team who they were playing for should have first option at taking them back. We lost out on Tim not playing last year and were building towards a first class back line.
I’d love to have him back on an incentive based contract.

He did the wrong thing, he’s admitted doing the wrong thing & done the time for the crime.

We should have the first chance on signing him, because a club like the storm or roosters are going to pick him up dirt cheap.
 
What a way to ruin his career and his reputation. I always considered him one of the best guys in the game. Met him a couple times and he was the coolest guy. And as a player he was underrated.

It’s a tricky one. While in society, assault is much worse than match fixing, players who have committed assault aren’t sabotaging the results of games. When you are match fixing, it would be hard to earn the trust back. When you have a bad game, when you make a mistake, eyebrows raise. But that’s something he has to live with.
 
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Stomping on heads OK..

Yes indeed! Stomping on heads, beating your wife, glassing your girlfriend then blaming your mate for it, punching taxi drivers, rampaging through the streets, harassing women, telling them they are going to die tonight then bashing the crap out of a guy in front of his wife and kids - all ok, Origin material even!

I'd be happy to have Tim back.
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Because all those actions were not rightly punished - doesn't make them right.

This guy can be rightly punished and so should any further indiscretions.

If others are ripping off charities (you don't excuse him) you punish the others.

I would not be happy to have him back.
 
If he is rehabilitated i would take him back as he would solve part of our backline issues.What he did was disgraceful (charity ripoff mainly) but not as bad as what other players have done and continue to do with little or no real punishment.
As far as throwing games are concerned i dont believe he did judging on the way he played for us but it was idiocy to back the opposition even if he thought we couldnt win
 
whether it is right or wrong to let him back is not up to any of us, if the NRL SAYS HE CAN COME BACK then so be it, we may as well get him or some less RIGHTOUS TEAM will reap the rewardeds.
 
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If others got a second chance he deserves his.
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I agree. Behaving bad has become par for a NRL player. There are NRL players who have performed just as bad and on their second and even third chance (i.e. Pierce etc) without suspension and are still allowed to play NRL for $thousands if not a million per year. Simona has served his time, shown humility and contrition and deserves another chance.
 
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What a way to ruin his career and his reputation. I always considered him one of the best guys in the game. Met him a couple times and he was the coolest guy. And as a player he was underrated.

It’s a tricky one. While in society, assault is much worse than match fixing, players who have committed assault aren’t sabotaging the results of games. When you are match fixing, it would be hard to earn the trust back. When you have a bad game, when you make a mistake, eyebrows raise. But that’s something he has to live with.
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Well summarised GNR. Add that to the aspect that aggression is part of the game, you almost expect some bad eggs in there with off-field violence.

What you don't expect is for guys to undercut their teammates.
 
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What a way to ruin his career and his reputation. I always considered him one of the best guys in the game. Met him a couple times and he was the coolest guy. And as a player he was underrated.

It’s a tricky one. While in society, assault is much worse than match fixing, players who have committed assault aren’t sabotaging the results of games. When you are match fixing, it would be hard to earn the trust back. When you have a bad game, when you make a mistake, eyebrows raise. But that’s something he has to live with.

Well summarised GNR. Add that to the aspect that aggression is part of the game, you almost expect some bad eggs in there with off-field violence.

What you don't expect is for guys to undercut their teammates.
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He didn't though. He didn't throw any games. It's not really a good summary of what happened because he gave his best on the field.
 
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What a way to ruin his career and his reputation. I always considered him one of the best guys in the game. Met him a couple times and he was the coolest guy. And as a player he was underrated.

It’s a tricky one. While in society, assault is much worse than match fixing, players who have committed assault aren’t sabotaging the results of games. When you are match fixing, it would be hard to earn the trust back. When you have a bad game, when you make a mistake, eyebrows raise. But that’s something he has to live with.

Well summarised GNR. Add that to the aspect that aggression is part of the game, you almost expect some bad eggs in there with off-field violence.

What you don't expect is for guys to undercut their teammates.

He didn't though. He didn't throw any games. It's not really a good summary of what happened because he gave his best on the field.
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I think the jury is out. I remember a few people complaining about bad decisions he made in scoring opportunities before anything was made public.
 
I think if he is judged by the NRL to have done his time, done remedial actions to address whatever demons caused the problems in the first place and has / is remorseful over his actions (which I believe he is) he deserves another chance, and I've no probs if the WT ask him to come back given the first bits mentioned being done.
 
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What a way to ruin his career and his reputation. I always considered him one of the best guys in the game. Met him a couple times and he was the coolest guy. And as a player he was underrated.

It’s a tricky one. While in society, assault is much worse than match fixing, players who have committed assault aren’t sabotaging the results of games. When you are match fixing, it would be hard to earn the trust back. When you have a bad game, when you make a mistake, eyebrows raise. But that’s something he has to live with.

Well summarised GNR. Add that to the aspect that aggression is part of the game, you almost expect some bad eggs in there with off-field violence.

What you don't expect is for guys to undercut their teammates.

He didn't though. He didn't throw any games. It's not really a good summary of what happened because he gave his best on the field.

I think the jury is out. I remember a few people complaining about bad decisions he made in scoring opportunities before anything was made public.
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I remember seeing some analysis suggesting that he did make some decisions which led directly to the other team being in strong try-scoring positions, but I don't recall if that 'analysis' was matched to the times he bet on the other players to score.

I'm not trying to shift the blame here, or make any allegations, but does anyone know if he has the same partner which he had at the time? I think she was involved too at the time, or at least knew about it and didn't discourage it. When a person is trying to change themself, and they have a partner who is encouraging (or at least not discouraging) the old behaviour, then it makes it harder or less likely to change. It's great if the partner is trying to change too, but otherwise…

Think of quitting smoking or drinking or anything. You're more likely to change your behaviour if you take yourself out of situations which encourage the old behaviour. I'm suggesting it might be the same thing here.

I'm just asking the questions here, I'm not laying blame at the partner.
 
There seems to be a double standard in Australian sports. Simona has now been out of rugby league for many years for what has be called "cheating". Some on this forum think that he should never return to NRL.

On the other hand Australian Cricket's former " hero" Dave Warner was clearly found to have cheated in a high level international test match. He was suspended for only around 15 months. Yet so many are clamouring for Warner to come back to test cricket as soon as possible, even at the expense of younger cricketers who have earned their test place while Warner has been, in the past months, playing cricket at a lower than Shield level.

If Warner is back in the test cricket fold after only 15 months suspension I think Simona has been very badly done by.
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couldn't agree more,newtown.
i dont want warner back but it seems to be a forgone conclusion hell be reinstated.
there is the difference that simona's actions were for personal gain whilst warners actions were to benefit the team.

anyway,didnt realise that simona was on the verge of signing with souths when the you know what hit the fan.
for those who remember bob cooper,he couldnt come back after 12 months out of the game- simona,i think,needs to reinvent himself and forget about an nrl return.
 
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