TOUGH CALL LEADS TO VIDEO REF QUESTIONS

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TOUGH CALL LEADS TO VIDEO REF QUESTIONS
Sunday, October 04, 2009

Wests Tigers Toyota Cup Coach Grant Jones says it may be time for the video referee system to be used in Grand Finals.

Speaking at the post match press conference following the 24-22 loss to the Melbourne Storm, Jones didn’t mix his words when reporters asked his thoughts on whether full-back Gareth Widdop had scored in the 74th minute to level at 22-22 all.Widdop then converted his own try to give the Storm the lead, and in the end, the premiership.

Widdop followed through a grubber kick to score with the try being awarded by the referee. A replay showed that Widdop had not grounded the ball clearly with his hand.

“I didn’t get a real good look at that forcing of the ball down but the people around me had a few raised eyebrows when the referee awarded the try given they had an in-goal judge as well,’’ Jones said.

When asked whether he would have liked to seen a video referee ruling on it, Jones was straight to the point.

“They (the two officials) are five metres away from it. You don’t need a video referee for that. Well, if it means the difference between winning a premiership and losing one, the answer then is yes.

“From what I’m hearing, as at the time I was looking at something else and didn’t have a good look, there is a consensus that that might not have been a try.”

Wests Tigers Captain Darren Nicholls shared a similar view.

“A few of the boys who were around the ball said it was a knock-on and when we saw the replays, it was a bit disheartening,’ Nicholls said.

“You are going to get calls that can go against you in every game of footy. I thought he touched it and knocked it on.”

Nicholls said the side dug deep to come back from an 18-10 half-time deficit midway through the second half.

“All year we have been a good second half side but credit to Melbourne, they held us out and we didn’t play as smart as we could. We couldn’t finish it off,’’ Nicholls said.

Jones was questioned as to how far full-back Jake Mullaney was away from the NRL after another influential game. His two tries saw him take his tally to 29 tries in 27 matches.

“When’s round one,’’ Jones said, bluntly.

“Jake has scored 21 tries in his last 10 games and over 300 points. He has just grown in confidence at the back end of the season.

“The way he catches high balls meant he was a little bit dusty at the beginning of the year but he has plenty of confidence now in catching high balls, his defence is better and his attack is outstanding.”

Although beaten, Wests Tigers should again be in for a big 2010 as a large majority of the squad will return next season under Jones. Andrew Fifita, Robert Lui, Aaron Woods, Jason Schirnack and Simon Dwyer are in the Wests Tigers NRL squad.

“We are also hoping four or five of the players will be doing part time training with the NRL squad as well. Tim Sheens is pretty excited about their prospects,’’ Jones said.

“We are very proud of the season the boys have had. Even in the game today, they showed plenty of courage and resolve to get back midway through the second half. They have been like that all year. If they had a setback, they always bounced back the following week.

“It is a credit to them.’’
 
It was a very harsh call.

He touched it with his hand (the knock on) and then 'grounded' the ball with his chin/neck.

I couldn't believe the TV commentators said nothing about it.

They were blowing up on the radio though.
 
It was a rough call, no doubt about it. I thought there was nothing between the teams and a ref's call was always likely to determine the winner.

Still, a great season for the team and at least a couple of them (Dwyer, A. Fifita) are certain of futures in first grade.
 
When I watched it live I thought he got it down. Then I saw the replay and I thought he may have dropped it. Either way, it's always going to happen with those close calls when there is no video ref.
 
I though he knocked it on but even if he didn't it's one of the worst rules in the game that you can score a try with anything other than your hand.
 
The fact we dont have video decisions in a grand final only highlites what boneheads we have running this game…..deadset cost us a premiership.....embarasing for this great game
 
@Jazza said:
I thought it was a try, and even if there was some doubt, benefit of the doubt then.

What were you drinking when you saw the "try"?

That was no try and there was a forward pass for another one by the storm. The storm player thought it was a forward pass and was very surprised when it was awarded. Two no tries, eight points. The boys were dudded.
 
That put down looked very dodgey indeed. I also thought there was a forward pass in an earlier try when the player just stared down the ref for a minute until it was awarded, and than jumped around in amazement.
 
@steven_tiger said:
It was a very harsh call.

He touched it with his hand (the knock on) and then 'grounded' the ball with his chin/neck.

I couldn't believe the TV commentators said nothing about it.

They were blowing up on the radio though.

The :::9 commentators, Voss in particular knew absolutely nothing about the toyota cup boys from both teams, they were calling David Fafita as Tikinau for the 1st half… it was terrible these young blokes worked they're arse off to get to the gf & Voss can't be bothered to learn anything about them... a disgrace
 
Speaking of video refs…

The most frustrating thing to watch especially in a game is when the on field ref has the video ref look at a possible try only for the video ref to go back and say "Ref's call"

What was the point in going to the video ref in the first place? In my opinion,if a call goes to a video ref then the final decision goes with that ref not back to the on field ref who wasn't sure in the first place.
 
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