WA Reds win endorsement to join NRL in 2013

[Yossarian]

Northen eagles 2000-2003.

Leroy the tigers fan, everytime an nrl game or even a trial comes to perth they get a crowd of about 15k. They arnt gonna be up there with the AFL teams but they will have a good supporter base to start with.

As you pointed out, a very different environment. Northern Eagles were more like a Sydney team who played some games at Gosford. They were never really thought of as a Central Coast team.

As for Perth, sustaining interest over a season is a different kettle of fish to one-off games. Not saying it can't be done but its not easy.

Definatley not gonna be easy but no harder than any other new team. The good thing about Perth that although its an AFL town its not an anti NRL town. It will be better received than the Storm were in melbourne.They'll start with a good base but like us they'll need success on the field to build on it.

Def agree on that. I don't think it was an accident Perth had a team before Melbourne - there was always interest and a push coming from people on the ground rather than the top down operation grafted onto Melbourne. They are certainly going the right way about things and with a purpose build stadium, some government support, and good structures in place Perth could be a worthy expansion.

Having the SG Ball and senior team in the NSW comps is a very smart move. Be good if they could get in the NSW Cup as a feeder team as well.

 

[watersiders]

As for Perth, sustaining interest over a season is a different kettle of fish to one-off games. Not saying it can't be done but its not easy.

If the NRL plays its cards right with the TV deals, and the Reds are able to get enough sponsors and interest, it'll be fairly straight forward. Considering they have a sponsorship from the West Australian, the biggest daily newspaper here in Perth, the Reds will get plenty of media coverage.

😛ray: Desperately hoping that the Reds workout, I wanna see the Tigers play without having to take a 4 hour flight.

Initial interest and sponsorship isn't a problem, it's keeping interesting over a long period esp if things get tough. Perth Glory and Western Force are good examples that when the wheels fall off things can really fall apart over there. The West Australian is a News Limited paper so you have to take there support with a grain of salt…

Glory got serious die hard fans, who dont care if they win or lose. As for the Force, went to one fo the bigger shopping centres here, saw atleast 10 people with Force members gear on withing an hour. WA is a multi-sport state, if a good team can get established early, the support we stay for the good. If however, the Reds are shit from the word go, the club will have a lot of trouble.

 

[wtffl2005]

Glory got serious die hard fans, who dont care if they win or lose. As for the Force, went to one fo the bigger shopping centres here, saw atleast 10 people with Force members gear on withing an hour. WA is a multi-sport state, if a good team can get established early, the support we stay for the good. If however, the Reds are s*** from the word go, the club will have a lot of trouble.

to be fair though there are alot of English expats in perth that support the glory

and alot of south African expats that support the force

and the rest support the afl

But i hope it happens anyway

 

[Tigerdave]

Interesting, out of the 4 areas they mentioned, it would have to be Perth and Gosford, how long have we got Rhino signed up for?

 

[Fraze23]

Northen eagles 2000-2003.

The northern eagles werent a central coast team. A merger between manly and norths whom may have played a handful of games at gosford cant be considered a central coast team.
We have played a handful of home games at jade stadium over the years, that doesnt mean that christchurch has had a team.
A Central Coast team has never existed in the NRL

 

[Tiger_Watto]

Interesting, out of the 4 areas they mentioned, it would have to be Perth and Gosford, how long have we got Rhino signed up for?

Heigno just extended to 2013… They can have him after that, his life-span will be pretty low by then and it will be a great chance to get a good retirement cheque to finish his career...

Moltzen & Mortimer are the 2 signatures they want!!!

 

[Spartan117]

NRL is a greater game than all the rest - if they got the Name colours and marketing right In Perth I think it could really go well.

The Game has to be committed to stick it out though.

I would love to see the bears back but I worry about another team in the greater Sydney area.

 

[Juro]

Glory got serious die hard fans, who dont care if they win or lose. As for the Force, went to one fo the bigger shopping centres here, saw atleast 10 people with Force members gear on withing an hour. WA is a multi-sport state, if a good team can get established early, the support we stay for the good. If however, the Reds are s*** from the word go, the club will have a lot of trouble.

to be fair though there are alot of English expats in perth that support the glory

and alot of south African expats that support the force

and the rest support the afl

But i hope it happens anyway

Are you suggesting there are not a lot of NSW or QLD expats there??

 

[wtffl2005]

Glory got serious die hard fans, who dont care if they win or lose. As for the Force, went to one fo the bigger shopping centres here, saw atleast 10 people with Force members gear on withing an hour. WA is a multi-sport state, if a good team can get established early, the support we stay for the good. If however, the Reds are s*** from the word go, the club will have a lot of trouble.

to be fair though there are alot of English expats in perth that support the glory

and alot of south African expats that support the force

and the rest support the afl

But i hope it happens anyway

Are you suggesting there are not a lot of NSW or QLD expats there??

Im one and im sure there is heaps but many of them support afl

im just telling you what i have seen from going to the glory and force games

and the fact that main growth in population is from overseas imigration

 

[watersiders]

The WA Reds will never threaten the Dockers or the Eagles, but there is a substantial league community here, most already support other teams, but they would still welcome a WA team.

If the people of WA were able to witness a great game of league, they would jump to it.

 

[Juro]

I guess it will be interesting to see what happens when people are given the option of supporting their own NRL team…

 

[Tiger_Watto]

The **WA Reds will never threaten the Dockers or the Eagles**, but there is a substantial league community here, most already support other teams, but they would still welcome a WA team.

If the people of WA were able to witness a great game of league, they would jump to it.

While its a ssfe betting option for now, I think you are under-selling the potential of this Franchise. The key to financial success is a successful team, good support from the east coast (as in competitive feeder team in the NSW Cup/Qld Cup) and 'State' involvement. I've always felt the Dockers, West Coast & Force are too focused on Perth/Fremantle instead of taking the apporach they are a Western Australian Team. They need to be more dynamic and sell the brand into the Southern Asian Market also…

If you have some spare coin, I'd invest into the Franchise :question:

 

[watersiders]

The **WA Reds will never threaten the Dockers or the Eagles**, but there is a substantial league community here, most already support other teams, but they would still welcome a WA team.

If the people of WA were able to witness a great game of league, they would jump to it.

While its a ssfe betting option for now, I think you are under-selling the potential of this Franchise. The key to financial success is a successful team, good support from the east coast (as in competitive feeder team in the NSW Cup/Qld Cup) and 'State' involvement. I've always felt the Dockers, West Coast & Force are too focused on Perth/Fremantle instead of taking the apporach they are a Western Australian Team. They need to be more dynamic and sell the brand into the Southern Asian Market also…

If you have some spare coin, I'd invest into the Franchise :question:

I think the Eagles started out as a whole WA team, but changed after they brough in the Dockers.

I agree with you, the key to success for the Reds, is a good start and a steady stream of good players. People will cheer for the team thats winning, and if that team is local, then thats even better. It will be hard to establish league here in WA, but if they set it up correctly, the job will be that much easier.

 

[Yossarian]

Initial interest and sponsorship isn't a problem, it's keeping interesting over a long period esp if things get tough. Perth Glory and Western Force are good examples that when the wheels fall off things can really fall apart over there. The West Australian is a News Limited paper so you have to take there support with a grain of salt…

Glory got serious die hard fans, who dont care if they win or lose. As for the Force, went to one fo the bigger shopping centres here, saw atleast 10 people with Force members gear on withing an hour. WA is a multi-sport state, if a good team can get established early, the support we stay for the good. If however, the Reds are s*** from the word go, the club will have a lot of trouble.

Gold Coast United have diehard fans too - just many of them. A couple of years ago the Glory's average attendance was 7500 odd with some games getting below 5000.

Anyway if they do it right it can work. Super 15 is a lousy product up against the NRL…

 

[redemption]

WA is fertile ground for rugbly league expansion - but alot needs to be done right!!!!

However - some of the motherhood statements suggesting the west will embrace league without an appropriate grass-roots based business plan are the stuff of JK Rowling!!!

 

[Citizen_Tiger]

Insanity is performing the same task and expecting a different outcome.
Its been done before.
If we do expand the central coast should get the license due to
-An existing and proven supporter base
-A purpose built and suitable stadium.
-An existing and established juniors system.

I for one am not a fan of expansion. I think 16 teams is comfortable for the competition given the talent and that the top half of the competition make the finals.

Your point is well made. There's 500,000 people living between the lower north shore of Sydney and the Central Coast and the fact that they have been largely ignored by the NRL is disgraceful, apart from being commercially myopic. I'm not against expansion to WA, nor the Sunshine Coast or Central Queensland, but jeez you can't treat a traditional supporter base the way the north has been treated.

The Sharks should die or re-locate to the Sunshine Coast, they are about as dead an entity that has ever existed. They're in a Saints/Illawarra pincer, with their back to the ocean and a National Park as a buffer. Nowhere to go.

 

[Tiger_Watto]

The Sunshine Coast is 15-20 years off being able to sustain an NRL Franchise… Some of the 'old boys' like the idea, but fail to understand the reality that the infrustracture/population/commercial viability up here doesnt come close!

 

[Leroy_The_Tigers_Fan]

And I'll ask the question again, while all us RL fans on the East Coast would like to see the Reds resurrected for a second coming what is the interest in WA.
I went to the League Unlimited site to see what reaction that WA fans had to the same article, SFA!, really.

 

[watersiders]

And I'll ask the question again, while all us RL fans on the East Coast would like to see the Reds resurrected for a second coming what is the interest in WA.
I went to the League Unlimited site to see what reaction that WA fans had to the same article, SFA!, really.

SFA?

 

[Spartan117]

And I'll ask the question again, while all us RL fans on the East Coast would like to see the Reds resurrected for a second coming what is the interest in WA.
I went to the League Unlimited site to see what reaction that WA fans had to the same article, SFA!, really.

SFA?

Sweet - Rude word - All

PS - The other place is not worth going to- The WTForum is Only your source.

Bring back Perth.