Watching the AFL grand final and.....

[alex]

It's crazy, they get 90,000 people to their ANZAC Day match. And in general, their crowds are bigger. How come? Because they make it accessible.

Transport to the game is a breeze. From the CBD it's a 5-10min tram to either the MCG or Docklands. Once you get there, tickets for concessions are only $10-15\. A family pass to a game at ANZ is $100+, then you have $20 in parking or pack onto crowded trains you have to wait in long queues for.

I think David Gallop should sit down with Andrew Demetriou in the off season and see how they run their code so much more successfully.

 

[Peaches]

AFL will always get bigger crowds when all their games are played out of a handfull of venues. No more than 10 are used in a season with most played at the MCG or Etihad. Their crowds will always be big. The game goes for a good amount of time and all areas of the ground get a good work-out. Prices are reasonable and exceptional for members and season ticket holders. Their clubs are run like businesses and some own pubs, clubs and cafes which bring in another form of cash-flow.

The AFL grand final day/week has been in operation for along time and is just life down there. Its been done over many years in the best interests of the games and its fans, not its networks.

Their game is professional.

In saying that, I love our grand final day. 3 grades on the same day with some music before hand. Billy Idol would have been great if he didn't have to wait for some power. They use to show the retirees but with players going to England early, going to union, and coming back to the game; we could have seen the players again. Also, channel 9 needs to get its adds on as well which would be the contibuting factor here.

The handing over of the trophy should adpot the AFL way. Get the boss and the PM out of there. The young kids handing over medals could also be introduced but it does look a little tacky and ackward. Not to mention the blokes who just won the comp may not be able to contain themselves around the kids in regards to behaviour. I remember a couple of years ago, West Coast won the comp and were criticised because not all of them shoke the young blokes hands. The players were extremely excited obviously and that was their moment, so I fell a bit sorry for them.

 

[Jazza]

It's crazy, they get 90,000 people to their ANZAC Day match. And in general, their crowds are bigger. How come? Because they make it accessible.

Transport to the game is a breeze. From the CBD it's a 5-10min tram to either the MCG or Docklands. Once you get there, tickets for concessions are only $10-15\. A family pass to a game at ANZ is $100+, then you have $20 in parking or pack onto crowded trains you have to wait in long queues for.

I think David Gallop should sit down with Andrew Demetriou in the off season and see how they run their code so much more successfully.

Yeh well thats the main reason why they shut down Waverly stadium there, it was originally built because it was expected to be a very popular area in the future. But that didnt happen and it became isolated, then the AFL wanted a train line built out there, but it was denied, so people had a lot of trouble getting there, similar to some of us getting to the SFS and so they just didnt show up, and so the AFL sold the stadium and used that money to build Docklands which is perfectly placed.

I cant see the NRL doing that but it would be very handy if the state government built a little underground metro line from Redfern/Central out to the SFS/SCG/Fox Studios. If they did that, a lot more people would surely go to those venues, more people would be willing to take a train then drive there themselves or cram onto a bus, which would surely be beneficial for everyone including the NRL, Cricket Australia, Sydney Swans, the fans, tourists at fox studios, employees, the environment, the general public (Because traffic would be cut) and even the Government itself. And to cut costs, they could just open the line for when sporting events are on if they want.

But I cant see Andrew Demetriou sitting down with David Gallop, Demetriou is all about money and providing some advice for Gallop particularly when the AFL is about to make a move up here would be very wrong in his eyes, and understandably too because we're competition.

 

[JRD]

It's crazy, they get 90,000 people to their ANZAC Day match. And in general, their crowds are bigger. How come? Because they make it accessible.

Transport to the game is a breeze. From the CBD it's a 5-10min tram to either the MCG or Docklands. Once you get there, tickets for concessions are only $10-15\. A family pass to a game at ANZ is $100+, then you have $20 in parking or pack onto crowded trains you have to wait in long queues for.

I went to 2 AFL games in Melbourne about 4 years ago friday night at MCG was $32 for not a real good seat and sunday at docklands was $33 for the same,i wouldnt say that was good value

 

[Juro]

I cant see the NRL doing that but it would be very handy if the state government built a little underground metro line from Redfern/Central out to the SFS/SCG/Fox Studios. If they did that, a lot more people would surely go to those venues, more people would be willing to take a train then drive there themselves or cram onto a bus, which would surely be beneficial for everyone including the NRL, Cricket Australia, Sydney Swans, the fans, tourists at fox studios, employees, the environment, the general public (Because traffic would be cut) and even the Government itself. And to cut costs, they could just open the line for when sporting events are on if they want.

The NSW Government are experts at releasing announcements of new metro lines that don't go anywhere. Could they actually build one which would be useful???

 

[Beavis]

It wasn't a sloppy game at all, it was in fact a very good game.
Those that are saying it was sloppy, is that just because you despise the game. Have you played the game?

You come from a league background, and you seem as though your trying to compare the game to that.
They are 2 vastly different games, with 2 vastly different skill sets, they can't be compared.

I just love the ignorance most league supporters have of a game that they know little about.

 

[Juro]

No, I despise the game because it is sloppy. The sloppiness came first.

Really, to me it is like watching an under 7s soccer match, where every player is standing in a big huddle, trying to kick the ball towards their goal, but nobody can kick it because of all the other bodies in the way. The spoiling tactics of the defense funnily enough have spoilt the game as a spectacle.

You say it was a very good game. I acknowledge it was a very close game, and was potentially exciting, especially if you had some preference for the result. But what factors actually made it a "good" game?

 

[Yossarian]

It's crazy, they get 90,000 people to their ANZAC Day match. And in general, their crowds are bigger. How come? Because they make it accessible.

Transport to the game is a breeze. From the CBD it's a 5-10min tram to either the MCG or Docklands. Once you get there, tickets for concessions are only $10-15\. A family pass to a game at ANZ is $100+, then you have $20 in parking or pack onto crowded trains you have to wait in long queues for.

I went to 2 AFL games in Melbourne about 4 years ago friday night at MCG was $32 for not a real good seat and sunday at docklands was $33 for the same,i wouldnt say that was good value

Try going to a game in Adelaide. Ground is nowheresville and they force you to pay for a more expensive seat when there are still spare seats in the cheaper section.

 

[Jazza]

It wasn't a sloppy game at all, it was in fact a very good game.
Those that are saying it was sloppy, is that just because you despise the game. Have you played the game?

You come from a league background, and you seem as though your trying to compare the game to that.
They are 2 vastly different games, with 2 vastly different skill sets, they can't be compared.

I just love the ignorance most league supporters have of a game that they know little about.

Of course we're from a League background, this a league forum.

Most of this thread has been about how the AFL runs their game better then the NRL, in other words, giving the AFL a rap as an organisation.

We criticise NRL teams and matches as well, the Sharks, Storm, Manly, and Warriors are all boring (Just like how a lot of us find AFL boring), most of us wouldnt be that interested if those teams played each other, does that mean we know nothing about them because we dont like the way they play?

 

[Yossarian]

It wasn't a sloppy game at all, it was in fact a very good game.
Those that are saying it was sloppy, is that just because you despise the game. Have you played the game?

You come from a league background, and you seem as though your trying to compare the game to that.
They are 2 vastly different games, with 2 vastly different skill sets, they can't be compared.

I just love the ignorance most league supporters have of a game that they know little about.

Okay calm down…

I do watch a bit of AFL during the year and it was an exciting game but I did think it was sloppy esp during the last quarter. There was hardly a mark taken during the final term.

Don't get me wrong, I enjoyed it as an event because it was extremely tense and the ball was moving around a lot but the skill levels went out the window a bit towards the end.

Still rather watch the AFL than yawnion. Now that is a terrible game at least at international level...

 

[wicked_j]

game was shown at cinemas too which i thought was a decent idea..
they seem to always have some new initiative which is actually a good idea unlike the nrl's.

 

[NJLM78]

Yesterday showed that the NRL in GF day entertainment have slipped further behind the AFL. Not sure what they showed on tv, but the most exciting part at the ground was the two helicopters. I know people don't go there just to watch the entertainment but based on what was shown yesterday, they would be better off showing nothing. Finish the U20s, have the National Anthem then start 1st grade. At one stage yesterday there was about 15 minutes of nothing after the U20s until the cheer girls from Storm and Eels took to the field.

 

[Jazza]

From tv it was terrible.

All I saw was just a few bands, after the 20s ch 9 cut to the news and well the entertainment was so unmemorable i dont remember much of it lol.

Its almost like the NRL doesnt bother, they know the ground will sell out so who cares?

The thing is, if the entertainment is better over say the next decade, people will come to the ground earlier meaning they will spend more money at the ground.

 

[Florrie]

The tv coverage of the "entertainment" was woeful. I felt sorry for the guys retiring/leaving who stood around awkwardly while the camera cut quickly from one to the other. I don't even think the commentators commented on them. And the NRL should learn that sending out a hundred or so girls to dance around a band in such a huge space just looks pathetic (with no disrecpect to the dancers, not their fault).

I've always considered the rugby league entertainment and presentation far inferior to the AFL's, for professionalism, and I've been watching both for over thirty years.

 

[Peaches]

The tv coverage of the "entertainment" was woeful. I felt sorry for the guys retiring/leaving who stood around awkwardly while the camera cut quickly from one to the other. I don't even think the commentators commented on them. And the NRL should learn that sending out a hundred or so girls to dance around a band in such a huge space just looks pathetic (with no disrecpect to the dancers, not their fault).

I've always considered the rugby league entertainment and presentation far inferior to the AFL's, for professionalism, and I've been watching both for over thirty years.

They weren't all girls actually. The 7pm project slowed the footage down and there were a few blokes running out there in the bunch.

 

[NJLM78]

The blokes were probably bored fans who had had enough of sitting there with nothing to watch or look at so they thought they would provide their own entertainment and join the dance team.

 

[JRD]

It's crazy, they get 90,000 people to their ANZAC Day match. And in general, their crowds are bigger. How come? Because they make it accessible.

Transport to the game is a breeze. From the CBD it's a 5-10min tram to either the MCG or Docklands. Once you get there, tickets for concessions are only $10-15\. A family pass to a game at ANZ is $100+, then you have $20 in parking or pack onto crowded trains you have to wait in long queues for.

I went to 2 AFL games in Melbourne about 4 years ago friday night at MCG was $32 for not a real good seat and sunday at docklands was $33 for the same,i wouldnt say that was good value

Try going to a game in Adelaide. .

I have,I actually live in Adelaide 😕

 

[Yossarian]

I went to 2 AFL games in Melbourne about 4 years ago friday night at MCG was $32 for not a real good seat and sunday at docklands was $33 for the same,i wouldnt say that was good value

Try going to a game in Adelaide. .

I have,I actually live in Adelaide 😕

Then you know what I'm talking about. I went to a Port game once when I was over there. For starters the ground is nowhere near "normal" public transport. Then when we got there they told us all the cheap seats were gone and we would have to get one of the higher level tickets. Of course when we got in the ground was half full anyway.

 

[JRD]

@Yossarian:

I went to 2 AFL games in Melbourne about 4 years ago friday night at MCG was $32 for not a real good seat and sunday at docklands was $33 for the same,i wouldnt say that was good value

Try going to a game in Adelaide. .

I have,I actually live in Adelaide 😕

Then you know what I'm talking about. I went to a Port game once when I was over there. For starters the ground is nowhere near "normal" public transport. Then when we got there they told us all the cheap seats were gone and we would have to get one of the higher level tickets. Of course when we got in the ground was half full anyway.

The stadium is always half full when Port play.They run Footy Express buses from allover Adelaide on game day I live about 40 km from the ground and could get a bus from just up the road dirct to the ground.They are talking about extending the tram all the way out to footy park(AAMI stadium) but that will be a few years off yet.The liberal opposition want to build a brand new stadium in the city where the government wants to build a new hospital,I dont think Adelaide needs a new big stadium Port cant even fill the one they got now.

 

[Yossarian]

Problem with the footy bus is that they all arrive about 20 minutes before the game. If, like me, your travelling with your brother who is always running late, once that last bus leaves you're stuffed. Same with the trotting track down there - in the middle of nowheresville and the last bus leaves before the last race.