Wests Tigers have gone from soft in the middle to tough

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Wests Tigers have gone from soft in the middle to tough up the guts

Paul Crawley
The Daily Telegraph
June 07, 2012 12:00AM

AS the Wests Tigers head to Melbourne tomorrow night chasing seven straight wins, it's worth reflecting on Matty Johns' stoush with Robbie Farah in late March.

That was after the pre-season favourites crashed to their third straight defeat, going down 30-16 to Canberra in round four.

Johns said to Farah two nights later on NRL on Fox: "They were punching straight through the middle of you. That was soft."

Farah fired back: "That's your opinion. I'm sure people have got opinions on you."

While Farah took exception to the criticism, perhaps it was exactly the motivation the Tigers needed.

They lost their next two games - against the South Sydney (17-16) and Brisbane (18-14) - but have since won six straight, while not conceding a single try through the middle.

Sportsdata Statistics show over the five losses from round two to seven, they conceded six tries through the middle. The Tigers were conceding an average of 24.6 points per game during the run of losses, with 123 points scored against.Compare that to the six games they have won where they only conceded 84 points, for an average 14 per game.

Recent history shows teams conceding between 12-14 points per game win premierships. Add in that the Tigers have held two teams to zero during this winning streak - Canberra last weekend and the Panthers in round seven - while four games were won away from home.

So how much is to do with the public kick up the bum Johns' handed out that night?

It is important to factor in this run coincides with the rise and rise of Aaron Woods - while Keith Galloway's return had a massive impact.

Galloway was injured during the first-round win over Cronulla and didn't return until round six against the Broncos, the last time the Tigers lost. Praising his two props following last week's crushing win over Canberra, coach Tim Sheens scratched an old wound.

"We've been up, we've been down, we've been criticised for being too soft in the forwards earlier in the year by a couple of so-called experts," Sheens said. "But, at the end of the day, we've muscled up and it's been on the back of the two big fellas."

No doubt, Sheens was spot on that the form of Woods and Galloway should get most of the credit - but, again, how much did Johns' criticism motivate a change in attitude?

Only the Tigers know this, but completion rates over the last three games have been above 80 per cent.

Recently, Benji Marshall admitted that he too was trying to pull his head in, play with more control, rather than relying on trick shots.

For the five loses, Marshall was averaging 4.02 on the crucial CVG ratings system - now, during the six wins, that figure has jumped to 6.25.

And during those five losses, the Tigers conceded 12 tries inside their 0-10 metre zone, five tries from dummy half and two tries from over halfway.In the six wins, only eight tries have come inside the 0-10 metre zone, none from dummy half and, importantly, none through the middle.

So soft is now rock solid - and, as always, attitude is everything.
 
Johns has a right to his opinion but replacing a 19yr old boy with an hardened experienced international is bound to have an impact.

Galloway was always going to return from injury and have a big impact, therefore what Johns' said had little impact aside from getting Robbie's shackles up.

Scary thought is how tough we will be in the middle when a fully fit Ellis returns…i like the thought
 
Johns was right at that point however he did come across as a muppet. Its not like they weren't trying. He had no impact on the teams performance at all.

It isn't just the forwards that have improved either - Benji has improved immensely.
 
Is the CVG that important I've never heard it being used? He could have said benji marshall is now on 13000 on the really really important shmangle whitley ratings system.

and in any world where John's comments hold weight for a whole team is just plain stupid.

Some good points but mostly waffle..
 
Sounds like that Contribution Value Rating (CVR) crap compiled by Sportdata. Basically condenses a bunch of variable stats into one value, its different in that it also calculates contributions when a player doesn't have the ball, like if he hits a hole and draws defense but never gets the ball etc.

Its a useful tool, but still throws up BS stats. For example using CVR Hayne was rated as the most valuable NSW back prior to Origin I this year.

As for our defense up the middle, its been great to see the boys react as they have. We are winning games with the base of great defense and a top attitude. Everything else flows on from that. Very proud.
 
@LaT said:
Sounds like that Contribution Value Rating (CVR) crap compiled by Sportdata. Basically condenses a bunch of variable stats into one value, its different in that it also calculates contributions when a player doesn't have the ball, like if he hits a hole and draws defense but never gets the ball etc.

Its a useful tool, but still throws up BS stats. **For example using CVR Hayne was rated as the most valuable NSW back prior to Origin I this year**.

As for our defense up the middle, its been great to see the boys react as they have. We are winning games with the base of great defense and a top attitude. Everything else flows on from that. Very proud.

But that is probably true, which NSW back comes close to being as influential as him? Pearce? Uate? Carney?
 
Haynes form/attitude/effort was woeful at time and overall disappointing in the first part of the season.

The CVR said he was our best back though, that shows me that the rating system is prone to anomalies.
 
@BrissieTiger67 said:
Is the CVG that important I've never heard it being used? He could have said benji marshall is now on 13000 on the really really important shmangle whitley ratings system.

and in any world where John's comments hold weight for a whole team is just plain stupid.

Some good points but mostly waffle..

same opinion here as well
 
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