Wests Tigers Team v Manly..

@cairnstigers said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342584) said:
Joey was having a good game until he got concussed
I expect him in over MCK
Infact I don't think MCK will be in the final 17
I think we might see Amone
We Blooded Simpkin and he killed it last week
Why not Blood another Hungry Warrior
MCK is also off contract at years end so why bother now if we have better

You been licking toads with your mate hapster?
Stop thinking ..!
 
@cairnstigers said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342584) said:
Joey was having a good game until he got concussed
I expect him in over MCK
Infact I don't think MCK will be in the final 17
I think we might see Amone
We Blooded Simpkin and he killed it last week
Why not Blood another Hungry Warrior
MCK is also off contract at years end so why bother now if we have better

Joey still has a lot to prove IMO

Needs a big stint in NSW cup, problem is there isn’t really any one to put there...Mbye maybe but I think his role off the bench has proven to be pretty pivotal
 
@lukic said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342578) said:
@jc99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342553) said:
@lukic said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342543) said:
Seyfarth over Mikaele is madness. Sure he's going well in NSW cup but he was diabolical in firsts last year and is not an impact guy.

Mikaele isn't dominating or anything, but in the past few weeks he's been good at bending the line and helping generate momentum with his carries. He's been growing into that 25-30 minute bench prop role. If Seyfarth is keeping it warm for Blore's return (with Blore to 11 and Ofahengaue to 16), then fair enough. But Madge is kidding himself if he thinks Seyfarth is a genuine bench option going forward.

Chee Kam over Leilua is stupid too. How many times does MCK in the centres need to be tried and failed? Joey at least offers some upside, MCK is a bench second rower and not a centre.

Pretty silly to judge Seyfarth off last years performances he was thrown in too early and was found out. He's playing better than ever now and deserves the call up. Mikaele is lazy and makes errors, runs the footy well but don't we want consistency?

I don't think it's that silly. Seyfarth hasn't really changed his style as a player - just improved at what he does. He's an high work rate and not an impact guy. If Twal got injured and Seyfarth was called up to replace him, I'd totally get it. Mikaele for Seyfarth aren't like for like swaps though, I question how effective Seyfarth will be coming on for 25 or so minutes when it's not his game.

Who says it will only be for 25 mins? I could see Musgrove and Seyfarth replacing Tamou and Stefano to play a good 35 minutes each. Musgrove is the impact man off the bench and they can start Ofa at second row, give him a break then bring him back on as a middle forward to provide impact too.

Just because Seyfarth is replacing Mikaele doesn't mean he'll play the exact same role necessarily.
 
@diedpretty said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342575) said:
@boonboon said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342511) said:
Joey named in NSW Cup Side
1. Zac Cini
2. Allan Fitzgibbon
3. Reece Hoffman
4. Joey Leilua
5. Kiah Cooper
6. Billy Walters
7. Jock Madden
8. Tom Amone
9. Jacob Liddle
10. Thomas Mikaele
11. Edenn Rogers Smith
12. Kelma Tuilagi
13. Tom Freebairn

Interchange:
14. Joseph Taipari
15. Shawn Blore
16. Austin Dias
17. Etuale Lui
19. Zach Dockar-Clay


That side would give the firsts a run for their money.

Delusional
 
@djg-tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342585) said:
I'm Totally surprised that Nofa and Roberts are still a Centre/Wing Pairing.

Nofa played on the left last week, I assume he'll stay there.
 
@facepalmer said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342579) said:
Okay I guess Madge doesn't rate Cini at all.

CINI IS A BAD DEFENDER! He doesn’t slide well , rarely uses his shoulder , and makes poor reads in the defensive line . He is good at the back , and can work on his form , and better understand , what’s actually required in the defensive line .

Madge wants to stop the leaky defence . I assume he thinks there’s enough strike in the 1st team ,, to not have to carry a really bad defender .

If I hazard a guess , I would say next cab off the rank would be Fitzgibbon , but he has hands like feet , and needs to work on this .
Both kids could be anything . We need to persist with thier development .
The Paps reference needs to be put into perspective , as Billy slater came out recently and said a couple years ago , Paps was the third or 4th choice , and told he might need to find another club. He came to Billy for tips on his game and where to improve , and Billy was brutally honest with him , and Paps went away and worked hard on this .
It’s not like Paps was a given for firsts . So Cini spending the season perfecting his craft in 2nd grade is a good thing . Much like it was for Paps and many others .
 
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342545) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342534) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342528) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342526) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342521) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342516) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342512) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342504) said:
Those saying Mikaele is unlucky, what exactly has he done for us, looks like Tarzan but intimidates nobody.

Has he delivered on potential? No

But why drop him when if anything form is improving in recent weeks, that's what I find baffling. Good luck to young Seyfarth though.

He’s a category 4 plodder

Need the score breakdown please mate. It is a big call, unless you are giving too much weight to wrongness of head.

Try scoring ability - no stars
Speed - no stars
Hole running ability - no stars
Wrongness of head - no comment, too scary
Big hits that scare people - no stars

Mikaele?

Correct, justifying my classification of grade 4 plodder

I’d have him a class 3
Still better than Seyfarth imo

I haven’t seen enough of seyfarth to judge but the fact he’s taken this long to crack the team again worries me. We’re not exactly world beaters.
 
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342600) said:
@papacito said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342598) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbtu0wcctpk

That try is still the most awkward looking try I’ve seen ??

Nah
It was brilliant
Your mate Brooks was too scared to have a go ..
Mbye didn’t have a clue ..
Magic Mike to the rescue
 
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342603) said:
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342600) said:
@papacito said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342598) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbtu0wcctpk

That try is still the most awkward looking try I’ve seen ??

Nah
It was brilliant
Your mate Brooks was too scared to have a go ..
Mbye didn’t have a clue ..
Magic Mike to the rescue

It reminded me of letting the slow kid through on social touch footy nights to make him feel better
 
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342601) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342545) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342534) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342528) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342526) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342521) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342516) said:
@old_man_tiger said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342512) said:
@bagnf05 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342504) said:
Those saying Mikaele is unlucky, what exactly has he done for us, looks like Tarzan but intimidates nobody.

Has he delivered on potential? No

But why drop him when if anything form is improving in recent weeks, that's what I find baffling. Good luck to young Seyfarth though.

He’s a category 4 plodder

Need the score breakdown please mate. It is a big call, unless you are giving too much weight to wrongness of head.

Try scoring ability - no stars
Speed - no stars
Hole running ability - no stars
Wrongness of head - no comment, too scary
Big hits that scare people - no stars

Mikaele?

Correct, justifying my classification of grade 4 plodder

I’d have him a class 3
Still better than Seyfarth imo

I haven’t seen enough of seyfarth to judge but the fact he’s taken this long to crack the team again worries me. We’re not exactly world beaters.

There’s a lot of reputations in that middle mate . Twal had origin hype , a couple years ago, Tamou is the captain , Uto is the prodigy , Joffa the origin player , Mika has been going well , and Packer has a rep as well . And Musgrove is a Madge favourite I think.
 
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342590) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342584) said:
Joey was having a good game until he got concussed
I expect him in over MCK
Infact I don't think MCK will be in the final 17
I think we might see Amone
We Blooded Simpkin and he killed it last week
Why not Blood another Hungry Warrior
MCK is also off contract at years end so why bother now if we have better

Joey still has a lot to prove IMO

Needs a big stint in NSW cup, problem is there isn’t really any one to put there...Mbye maybe but I think his role off the bench has proven to be pretty pivotal

I'd be more inclined Mbye to centre and MCK to interchange as utility.
 
@jc99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342567) said:
@snake said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342558) said:
@jc99 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342553) said:
@lukic said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342543) said:
Seyfarth over Mikaele is madness. Sure he's going well in NSW cup but he was diabolical in firsts last year and is not an impact guy.

Mikaele isn't dominating or anything, but in the past few weeks he's been good at bending the line and helping generate momentum with his carries. He's been growing into that 25-30 minute bench prop role. If Seyfarth is keeping it warm for Blore's return (with Blore to 11 and Ofahengaue to 16), then fair enough. But Madge is kidding himself if he thinks Seyfarth is a genuine bench option going forward.

Chee Kam over Leilua is stupid too. How many times does MCK in the centres need to be tried and failed? Joey at least offers some upside, MCK is a bench second rower and not a centre.

Pretty silly to judge Seyfarth off last years performances he was thrown in too early and was found out. He's playing better than ever now and deserves the call up. Mikaele is lazy and makes errors, runs the footy well but don't we want consistency?

Watched Seyfarth lately the guy has a huge motor could be the reason

Blokes been a machine. Strong carries strong defence hasn't done much wrong

Hopefully he can finally carry that in first grade and nail a spot.
 
@2005magic said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342607) said:
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342590) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342584) said:
Joey was having a good game until he got concussed
I expect him in over MCK
Infact I don't think MCK will be in the final 17
I think we might see Amone
We Blooded Simpkin and he killed it last week
Why not Blood another Hungry Warrior
MCK is also off contract at years end so why bother now if we have better

Joey still has a lot to prove IMO

Needs a big stint in NSW cup, problem is there isn’t really any one to put there...Mbye maybe but I think his role off the bench has proven to be pretty pivotal

I'd be more inclined Mbye to centre and MCK to interchange as utility.

I think mbye days in centre are over under Madge unless there’s an injury.
Suprised people are not happy with MCK with how unhappy people are with BJ
 
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342605) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342603) said:
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342600) said:
@papacito said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342598) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbtu0wcctpk

That try is still the most awkward looking try I’ve seen ??

Nah
It was brilliant
Your mate Brooks was too scared to have a go ..
Mbye didn’t have a clue ..
Magic Mike to the rescue

It reminded me of letting the slow kid through on social touch footy nights to make him feel better

Still won us more games individually than your mate and on 1/3 the wage
 
@2005magic said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342607) said:
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342590) said:
@cairnstigers said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342584) said:
Joey was having a good game until he got concussed
I expect him in over MCK
Infact I don't think MCK will be in the final 17
I think we might see Amone
We Blooded Simpkin and he killed it last week
Why not Blood another Hungry Warrior
MCK is also off contract at years end so why bother now if we have better

Joey still has a lot to prove IMO

Needs a big stint in NSW cup, problem is there isn’t really any one to put there...Mbye maybe but I think his role off the bench has proven to be pretty pivotal

I'd be more inclined Mbye to centre and MCK to interchange as utility.

Maybe you yeah

I think Madge likes Mbyes roles off the bench and doesn’t want to disrupt that
 
The only problem I have with any of the changes is Kepoa is out for the season. It would be wise to pick an adequate back up as this isn’t a week to week thing. I know his been rotating his backline to try and get the best response out of them but for mine Chee Kam isn’t the person you want for the remainder of the season there. However as mentioned Cheek has been playing really well in cup so maybe this is a chance to get him involved for the year in a position his previously pretty comfortable in. Joey may be relegated to 1st choice back up.
Honesty defensively both are just as bad in fact add Roberts all 3 are just as bad. So I guess the question is which two will remain composed and carry out the gameplan the best and provide the best attack when needed.
 
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342612) said:
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342605) said:
@hobbo1 said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342603) said:
@speed2burn said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342600) said:
@papacito said in [Wests Tigers Team v Manly\.\.](/post/1342598) said:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Qbtu0wcctpk

That try is still the most awkward looking try I’ve seen ??

Nah
It was brilliant
Your mate Brooks was too scared to have a go ..
Mbye didn’t have a clue ..
Magic Mike to the rescue

It reminded me of letting the slow kid through on social touch footy nights to make him feel better

Still won us more games individually than your mate and on 1/3 the wage

That’s not entirely true but yeah haha
 
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