What I have heard about Potter

[hybrid_tiger]

From 2 ok sources is that a few of the key players (who have performed quite well this year) don't rate Potter and some dislike him. They are miffed by aspects of his communication and man management. They see Potter has been very tough(un-nessesarily) on many rookie/younger players. However he (in their opinion) has not yet been nearly as hard on some senior players who have been letting the side down the weeks. He has left some of those really underperforming senior players alone and not held them as accountable as the younger blokes. This has left a few senior guys that do perform consistently miffed and angry.

So let me guess this straight, Potter is very tough on many rookie/younger players, but most of them have performed better than the senior players this year?

We have re-signed Simona, Koroibete, Brooks, Moses and Luani. We have Tedesco, Sironen, Nofoaluma, Sue, Ava all under contract next season.

If they were unhappy with being treated harshly by Potter why did they re-sign? And why are they performing.

What a joke. If our senior players had a problem with Potter, why not go to him and try and work it out, rather than run like little babies to our pathetic board so they can leak it all over the press?

OK, I wish Potter dropped some of these really underperforming senior players but you know what? They are gone in 2014\. Potter has rid the squad of everyone he doesn't want for next year.

These players have been babied by Sheens for so long, it makes me sick. Now they have thrown Potter under the bus too. The guy hasn't even been given a chance.

They won't be getting my money next year. They can get stuffed.

 

[starling04]

It was always going to be tough for a new coach to come to the club with all the players so used to the way Sheens ran things. Regardless of whether or not Potter has lost the confidence of the players, surely the cub cannot justify paying the wages of two coaches who are not contributing anything. It's just ridiculous that it is being discussed especially with our current financial situation. Potter wasn't even allowed to bring in his own coaching staff and it was too late for him to sign any player for the 2013 season. The board should really take that into account too.

 

[Oxygen]

Well I did read on this forum that a former NRL player who plays in the ESL stated Potter would not last at the tigers because of his tough love and the players would dislike him due to the fact that they have been babied far to long.

Its now evident Potter will get his marching orders and we will always be a soft club that will never play tough structured football for 80 minutes because of these so called senior players that have led the charge against him , not to hard to work out who it is.

It's also shows me our crap culture will never change unless these so called senior players are moved on as we run the risk of this culture rubbing off on our up and coming stars.

 

[tigersrule4life]

We need to give him one more year atm we look dumb if we pay 2 coaches out for next year.

 

[stevetiger]

It's clear Robbie does not rate him. However worryingly, other senior players that are a key part of next years side feel the same.

Teflon Farah wont be blamed. Everybody will just slate the departing player who has nothing to do with it. He has been blame for all other crimes against humanity, whats another one.

I'm waiting for Benji to be blamed for this. Tauber will confirm it as well.

 

[bigsiro]

Peeps blaming Farah….ridiculous,

Our best player ever......

Benji is easily our best player ever and copped way more blame for rifts with the coach.

 

[tigersrule4life]

Well what would happen if we had Souths or Storms coach would they want him to be sacked to.

 

[happy_tiger]

Have heard Potter is tough on the juniors , I mentioned this during pre season training ,but when they approach him one on one with issues he does have a softer side and can't do enough to try and help them

 

[Illek]

Very similar to the henjak situation once Bennett left at the broncos. Senior playing group didn't react well, he got thrown out and the team stagnated with the old guard.

I'm not a potter fan but he does deserve another full year to see how he can stamp himself on the team. If next year doesn't work then give him the flick, now is just too early

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[bigsiro]

I think we have all been quite proud of the way that this year's management has handled the Sheens and Benji saga while still giving fans a bit of hope with some astute signings for 2014+ that signify building to something bigger.

So, how can the Tigers management have all the big balls to sack Sheens, bring in a new coach, release Benji, gamble on youngsters, gid rid of other dead wood etc etc and then sack the very coach whose appointment and tenure was really the catalyst for all these other commendable, bold actions they have since taken?

I mean this whole Potter thing just seems so out of whack…doesn't it?

I can't speculate as I have no idea what is going on behind the scenes, but I can only assume that if Potter is being asked to leave the he must have done something pretty bloody bad.

 

[happy_tiger]

If Potter is being sacked it has to be because he has clashed heavily with the Board

The senior players that we wanted to stay have stayed , and all the gun juniors bar one have been resigned

You wouldn't have been able to do this if you had a coach who had lost the side

If this is all because of the Benji saga ,which I seriously doubt , and the players are angry at Potter they need to watch every Benji game since the game v the Saints in 2011 because he has been garbage since then

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

If Potter is being sacked it has to be because he has clashed heavily with the Board

The senior players that we wanted to stay have stayed , and all the gun juniors bar one have been resigned

You wouldn't have been able to do this if you had a coach who had lost the side

Exactly.

This mention he is hard on young players and not so hard on senior players. Have you thought he is trying to mould these younger players because he can have an impact? Many of these underperforming senior players have only had one coach in the NRL and are set in their ways. If they have not responded to Potter, then he can just release them (as he has done).

Always remember where Potter came from. When first playing for Canterbury he completed his apprenticeship as a sparky. He played under Warren Ryan and Brian Smith - coaches known for discipline and a work ethic. I believe he has some valuable lessons for some of the younger players and if these senior players don't like it, there is the door.

 

[barra]

If Potter is being sacked it has to be because he has clashed heavily with the Board

The senior players that we wanted to stay have stayed , and all the gun juniors bar one have been resigned

You wouldn't have been able to do this if you had a coach who had lost the side

Exactly.

This mention he is hard on young players and not so hard on senior players. Have you thought he is trying to mould these younger players because he can have an impact? Many of these underperforming senior players have only had one coach in the NRL and are set in their ways. If they have not responded to Potter, then he can just release them (as he has done).

Always remember where Potter came from. When first playing for Canterbury he completed his apprenticeship as a sparky. He played under Warren Ryan and Brian Smith - coaches known for discipline and a work ethic. I believe he has some valuable lessons for some of the younger players and if these senior players don't like it, there is the door.

Well there are some senior players who are not happy, and now the Balmain side of the board want him gone…

 

[Basil_Tiger]

When we run out of money and the NRL can get want they want with one less team in Sydney.

I think we're OK,,the Commission want a Team based in Greater Western Sydney but i hearing whispers of a name change,Western Sydney Tigers or Western Tigers,probaly come to nothing but you never know if the ARLC flex their muscle.

 

[Gary_Bakerloo]

Well there are some senior players who are not happy, and now the Balmain side of the board want him gone…

I want lots of things as well, but I can't afford them all.

 

[WTDiehard]

It's clear Robbie does not rate him. However worryingly, other senior players that are a key part of next years side feel the same.

Are these the same players who have helped us to the position of 2nd last.

Some of those players are probably lucky to still be in the NRL based on their efforts this year.

When you have players dictating the coach….well its not going to be good. This culture has been allowed to develop over a number of years. Maybe Potter will be the scapegoat....but Potter does not drop the ball every week or miss tackles or throw benji pass's over the sideline and at peoples head.

Even a Bellamy or bennett would struggle with that type of culture.

 

[851]

If Potter is being sacked it has to be because he has clashed heavily with the Board

The senior players that we wanted to stay have stayed , and all the gun juniors bar one have been resigned

You wouldn't have been able to do this if you had a coach who had lost the side

Exactly.

This mention he is hard on young players and not so hard on senior players. Have you thought he is trying to mould these younger players because he can have an impact? Many of these underperforming senior players have only had one coach in the NRL and are set in their ways. If they have not responded to Potter, then he can just release them (as he has done).

Always remember where Potter came from. When first playing for Canterbury he completed his apprenticeship as a sparky. He played under Warren Ryan and Brian Smith - coaches known for discipline and a work ethic. I believe he has some valuable lessons for some of the younger players and if these senior players don't like it, there is the door.

Well there are some senior players who are not happy, and now the Balmain side of the board want him gone…

The same Balmain board members whose club can't pay their bills now,real smart,and they want to pay a 3rd coach next year with Wests money.

 

[barra]

If Potter is being sacked it has to be because he has clashed heavily with the Board

The senior players that we wanted to stay have stayed , and all the gun juniors bar one have been resigned

You wouldn't have been able to do this if you had a coach who had lost the side

Exactly.

This mention he is hard on young players and not so hard on senior players. Have you thought he is trying to mould these younger players because he can have an impact? Many of these underperforming senior players have only had one coach in the NRL and are set in their ways. If they have not responded to Potter, then he can just release them (as he has done).

Always remember where Potter came from. When first playing for Canterbury he completed his apprenticeship as a sparky. He played under Warren Ryan and Brian Smith - coaches known for discipline and a work ethic. I believe he has some valuable lessons for some of the younger players and if these senior players don't like it, there is the door.

Well there are some senior players who are not happy, and now the Balmain side of the board want him gone…

The same Balmain board members whose club can't pay their bills now,real smart,and they want to pay a 3rd coach next year with Wests money.

But they are well connected in the league hierarchy so carry on regardless.

 

[Goose]

I will be annoyed if they sack Potter.

he deserves at least 2 years, especially as a late appointment, he needs a chance to build his squad and support staff.

1 year is way too short.

 

[bonstonker]

From 2 ok sources is that a few of the key players (who have performed quite well this year) don't rate Potter and some dislike him. They are miffed by aspects of his communication and man management. They see Potter has been very tough(un-nessesarily) on many rookie/younger players. However he (in their opinion) has not yet been nearly as hard on some senior players who have been letting the side down the weeks. He has left some of those really underperforming senior players alone and not held them as accountable as the younger blokes. This has left a few senior guys that do perform consistently miffed and angry.

The sources are a bloke who worked on the coaching staff at Balmain/Wests Tigers for a number of years and a person who is one of a senior players best mates.
I don’t usually like to get caught up in gossip and rumour. However these guys reckon Potter is as good as gone and that the key players will be happy about that. I must admit to looking at some press conferences and media appearances and detecting a disconnect between these players and their coach. No real glowing praise, no real approval, average body language etc

Im not saying getting rid of Potter is a good thing by any means. Player power is not the culture that you want to create. Potter deserves the chance with his own players an coaches. However these gys feels areas of his man management have been very poor and morale in the squad is very low. I feel for Potter and I think he is doing some great things, however if you lose the dressing room these is usually only one way things head.

if this was the case eddie,i'm on the side of the performing players.simply because i would do the same thing.
that's why i am self employed.

considering potter has promoted rookies when forced adds weight to the story.
look at the pathetic form of the majority of the senior group and how many have been dropped.none

the only thing he has done is drop benji for 20mins.
and when he gave farah a breather,was he trying to make a point or is he just stupid.if it was to make a point,then get out of here potter,you don't waste 2 comp points to make a point.

i'm not going to blame injuries for this year,without them i might not have seen some of the bright prospects coming through the club.

not sure if you have the answer,but did the players ever go to the board or the board ask them?
or has this info come from witnessing open arguments with players and potter and a simple conclusion has been formed.