What I want to know...

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"Under-fire Canterbury coach Kevin Moore denied his club were in crisis after lowly Cronulla inflicted a fifth defeat in six NRL games on the struggling Bulldogs on Sunday.Moore's future has been under scrutiny following a disappointing campaign from a club which has recruited heavily over the last two seasons.

The feeble 26-10 loss to a Paul Gallen-inspired Sharks at ANZ Stadium further cranked up the heat on the 46-year-old.
The loss meant the Bulldogs would start the week outside the top eight, but Moore maintained there's no need to panic and claimed his side's current situation was not affecting him.

"I just discard it (the speculation)," he said. "It goes with the business. It's a results-oriented business and, at the moment, we're just sitting on the fringe of the eight.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/underfire-moore-unfazed-by-speculation-20110619-1g9v6.html

The Bulldogs have won the same number of games we have.

What I want to know is why is Kevin Moore under pressure for being on the fringe of the eight, but Tim Sheens is rewarded with a contract extension?

Why is it a 'results oriented business' only for Moore, not for Sheens?

And for the record, I'm a huge Sheens fan. He turned the club around from a bunch of rabble into a professional, premiership winning joint. But it's very clear now he needs to move on.
 
Actually, we have one more win then the dogs - they have already had two byes.
And, the dogs have lost 5 of their last 6 games, so their circumstances are different.
And, the dogs are a ruthless club, they demand success and will settle for nothing less. they make changes when that is threatened. (edited to ad: whereas Wests Tigers seem to be more readily willing to accept mediocrity/mild success. Wests Tigers have a bag full of excuses for why each year was not as successful as it would have/should have/could have been. It's part of our culture that we seem to have carried on with from both Wests and Balmain.)
Sheens would have been sacked before the end of the '07 season if he was coaching the dogs.
 
I think the doggies fans/board are delusional.
Their team is not as good as they think.
Up till the last 5 games they have been over achieving.
 
@LARDS said:
I think the doggies fans/board are delusional.
Their team is not as good as they think.
Up till the last 5 games they have been over achieving.
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I would agree with that, although I will probably regret having done so by the end of Friday's game.
 
Look at the Dog's results since 2008:

2008: last (I think Folkes was coach)
2009: 2nd
2010: 13th
2011: currently 9th

Compared to Wests:

2008: 10th
2009: 9th
2010: 3rd
2011: currently 6th

The Dogs results are erratic in the environment of a salary cap and this season is spiraling. Teams drift to the top for a couple of seasons before dropping off. They have been up and dropped very quickly.

Yes, Sheens has not got us to the finals as many times as maybe we should, but we have always been in the hunt and competitive for every season except his first.
 
@LARDS said:
I think the doggies fans/board are delusional.
Their team is not as good as they think.
Up till the last 5 games they have been over achieving.
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x2 on that.

great looking side on paper, but have played like busteds when they need to perform.

Barba looks like the only bulldog happy to be playing footy at the moment.
Idris looks disinterested, Tolman has been spotty with form, Hodkinson shouldn't have left the sea eagles and he probably knows it.

You think our bunch is looking bad? This mob we are playing on friday are playing like busteds and blaming the coach. At least our guys are playing like busteds, and have the respect for Sheens to BLAME THEMSELVES.
 
Pritchard offloads at will on us and we have a history of being poor through the ruck where Barba travels.

It will be an interesting match
 
the campaign against moore is ludacris…. their key play makers were out on the weekend too (ennis and hodkinson)...
 
@ozcrusader said:
"Under-fire Canterbury coach Kevin Moore denied his club were in crisis after lowly Cronulla inflicted a fifth defeat in six NRL games on the struggling Bulldogs on Sunday.Moore's future has been under scrutiny following a disappointing campaign from a club which has recruited heavily over the last two seasons.

The feeble 26-10 loss to a Paul Gallen-inspired Sharks at ANZ Stadium further cranked up the heat on the 46-year-old.
The loss meant the Bulldogs would start the week outside the top eight, but Moore maintained there's no need to panic and claimed his side's current situation was not affecting him.

"I just discard it (the speculation)," he said. "It goes with the business. It's a results-oriented business and, at the moment, we're just sitting on the fringe of the eight.
http://news.smh.com.au/breaking-news-sport/underfire-moore-unfazed-by-speculation-20110619-1g9v6.html

The Bulldogs have won the same number of games we have.

What I want to know is why is Kevin Moore under pressure for being on the fringe of the eight, but Tim Sheens is rewarded with a contract extension?

Why is it a 'results oriented business' only for Moore, not for Sheens?

And for the record, I'm a huge Sheens fan. He turned the club around from a bunch of rabble into a professional, premiership winning joint. But it's very clear now he needs to move on.
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Moore has niowhere near the standing Sheens does in the game.
Longevity and experience give a person more breathing space than a newbie.
Sheens is very well respected in the game, highly knowledgeable and has a link in one way or another to just about every single person involved in the game
His results and his selections often confuse…..but with experience comes the ''right'' to ''do it your own way''
 
The Dogs aren't to be underestimated. I think they are in the same boat as us. They have the class in all positions but between injuries and a collective lull in form they are struggling.

They'll be looking to put us to the sword this weekend, make no mistake about that… They potentially fall out of the top eight if it doesn't happen.
 
If even half the rumours are true about whats going on at concord then Sheens should do the honorable thing and walk now. But we all know theres zero chance of that happening.
 
Pretty opened ended assertion KS. Can leave a lot to the imagination. It may be fairer to all if you simply reveal your inside info.
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