Where are the Marhsall critics now?

Ummm…Benji Marshall is one of our Marquee players is he not....

He has been a work in progress for 6 seasons now,,,,

2009 has been his best year to date no doubt....Those of you who think he is better in 6 that's great .....but I hope you realise he is along with Farah the one who steers us around the footy field....Sheens has been trying to build this team around them since '05....2010 where in for something special me thinks....

Consistancy from your gun players is not too much to ask is it?
 
@Geo. said:
Ummm…Benji Marshall is one of our Marquee players is he not....

He has been a work in progress for 6 seasons now,,,,

2009 has been his best year to date no doubt....Those of you who think he is better in 6 that's great .....but I hope you realise he is along with Farah the one who steers us around the footy field....Sheens has been trying to build this team around them since '05....2010 where in for something special me thinks....

Consistancy from your gun players is not too much to ask is it?

i dont think its gonna be much different to the last 4 years TBH, we havent recruited well enough in the forwards
 
@Tigerdave said:
yeah he only missed 1 game this year, which is a first

kinda makes you think, that if he DIDN'T miss that game (against the Dogs) earlier in the season - would we be in the eight? considering Benji carves them up every time, it would have almost been a guaranteed win in hindsight considering the score was like 26-24….
We could almost go further and say if the panthers never drew their opposition to gain that 1 point or if the ref didn't send off the cronulla player last week - but that's for another day 😕
 
@Tiger_heart said:
@southerntiger said:
Had a top season IMHO. Certainly there is still mistakes his in his game but I wouldnt swap im for anyone. I have a feeling he will dominate the league fo the next two or so seasons. People were calling for his sacking in the off-season. Where are they now?

Does it occur to you that (constructive) criticism might have been what helped Benji in the first place?

lol. There was nothing "constructive" in some of the criticism Benji copped on the forums earlier in the year.
 
@ragedmachine said:
@Tigerdave said:
yeah he only missed 1 game this year, which is a first

kinda makes you think, that if he DIDN'T miss that game (against the Dogs) earlier in the season - would we be in the eight? considering Benji carves them up every time, it would have almost been a guaranteed win in hindsight considering the score was like 26-24….
We could almost go further and say if the panthers never drew their opposition to gain that 1 point or if the ref didn't send off the cronulla player last week - but that's for another day 😕

well that's what was talked about before that game, that they had never beaten us with Benji in the side, if he had played that day, yeah I reckon we'd have won it.
 
@southerntiger said:
Had a top season IMHO. Certainly there is still mistakes his in his game but I wouldnt swap im for anyone. I have a feeling he will dominate the league fo the next two or so seasons. People were calling for his sacking in the off-season. Where are they now?

oh come on mate, he played well in patches but i can't say he had a TOP season. Out of 10 i would give it a solid 7, special moments this year from him were round 3 vs roosters, round 7 vs knights, round 19 vs cowboys, round 24 vs eels and round 26 vs dogs. IMO these are the only games he played well in. I can name a bundle of absolutely pathetic games he played starting from round 10 vs rabbitohs, round 11 vs broncos, round 12 vs warriors, round 13 vs panthers and round 22 vs roosters
 
I thought Bunji was just amazing last night,and brilliant for the last two months.

I am so happy for him…......first year his shoulders held and he got a full year and didnt he improve as the year went on.

Freakish player that is now consistently brilliant for us.

Im stoked with him....top feller and top player,very happy he is a tiger and I reckon his best is still yet to come.

Scarey!!!!!!
 
Benji may wear 6 but he is calling the shots and playing as a wide 7 though he does play tight inside as well. This has been one of his best years and I think 2010 could be a massive year from him if he gets through the 4 nations injury free.

I think the goal-kicking has matured his game. His general kicking improved as the season went on though both areas need working on still. His passing game is top notch and is our best player.
 
@Danos said:
lol. There was nothing "constructive" in some of the criticism Benji copped on the forums earlier in the year.

The point is that some of the haters didn't really watch the game and were just focussing on any errors he made. Yeah he made mistakes but you could see the talent he had and he had still been one of our best attacking players over the last couple of seasons.

The guy just needed some consistent footy and some help from some of the players around him. He has got that and now look at him. Imo he has been our best player over the course of the season. Ellis has been real good too but Benji is more important to us winning games. No other player comes close.
 
@Zaibatsu said:
@southerntiger said:
Had a top season IMHO. Certainly there is still mistakes his in his game but I wouldnt swap im for anyone. I have a feeling he will dominate the league fo the next two or so seasons. People were calling for his sacking in the off-season. Where are they now?

I believe the majority were calling for his head as a HALFBACK.

He got back to his best when moved back to five eighth, so they were correct. :slight_smile:

Well I'm glad his game didn't change to much with the 6 on his back…....
 
He wasn't the best player this season. He has been returning to the exciting five-eigthth of 2005, and his injury free season and the partnership with Moltzen has really helped. But there were 26 (?) rounds this season.
 
@tigergirlz said:
He wasn't the best player this season. He has been returning to the exciting five-eigthth of 2005, and his injury free season and the partnership with Moltzen has really helped. But there were 26 (?) rounds this season.

In your opinon he wasn't the best. Imo he was clearly the best - Ellis or Benji. Benji imo is more important than Ellis and helped us win more games. Ellis is a gun though - top player.
 
@Allan Towle said:
Benji may wear 6 but he is calling the shots and playing as a wide 7 though he does play tight inside as well. This has been one of his best years and I think 2010 could be a massive year from him if he gets through the 4 nations injury free.

It's not so much the change of number on the back that's made the difference. It's the fact that he has had someone else in the halves like Moltzen that also sets up alot of tries. It takes pressure off Benji. When Morris was in the halves it put too much pressure on Benji because Morris didn't setup many tries so Benji went for the big play too often. It just doesnt work. Sheens must be insane not to leave Moltzen at half. All we would need then is another quality prop and that will help our halves even more. Nothing would stop us then.
 
@citizen cub said:
@southerntiger said:
Had a top season IMHO. Certainly there is still mistakes his in his game but I wouldnt swap im for anyone. I have a feeling he will dominate the league fo the next two or so seasons. People were calling for his sacking in the off-season. Where are they now?

oh come on mate, he played well in patches but i can't say he had a TOP season. Out of 10 i would give it a solid 7, special moments this year from him were round 3 vs roosters, round 7 vs knights, round 19 vs cowboys, round 24 vs eels and round 26 vs dogs. IMO these are the only games he played well in. I can name a bundle of absolutely pathetic games he played starting from round 10 vs rabbitohs, round 11 vs broncos, round 12 vs warriors, round 13 vs panthers and round 22 vs roosters

Marshall is an off the cuff, ad-lib style of player. That will not change, so he will always have mistakes in his game. Round 7 vs Knights was a perfect example - his first half was shocking, his second half was brilliant.

I would not swap him for anyone.
 
@Geo. said:
@Zaibatsu said:
@southerntiger said:
Had a top season IMHO. Certainly there is still mistakes his in his game but I wouldnt swap im for anyone. I have a feeling he will dominate the league fo the next two or so seasons. People were calling for his sacking in the off-season. Where are they now?

I believe the majority were calling for his head as a HALFBACK.

He got back to his best when moved back to five eighth, so they were correct. :slight_smile:

Well I'm glad his game didn't change to much with the 6 on his back…....

It's incredible the amount of people thinking he played a different position. When Morris was in the halves we had Farah, Morris and Benji rotating in and out…. When Moltzen come in... we had even more rotation... we had Moltzen, Farah, Marshall and Ayshford (defending at 5/8).

Changing the number on his back did nothing, adding Moltzen into the halves changed everything!

On that note... Benji Marshall is the best footballer i have watched in years!
 
@Kaiser said:
@Geo. said:
@Zaibatsu said:
I believe the majority were calling for his head as a HALFBACK.

He got back to his best when moved back to five eighth, so they were correct. :slight_smile:

Well I'm glad his game didn't change to much with the 6 on his back…....

It's incredible the amount of people thinking he played a different position. When Morris was in the halves we had Farah, Morris and Benji rotating in and out…. When Moltzen come in... we had even more rotation... we had Moltzen, Farah, Marshall and Ayshford (defending at 5/8).

Changing the number on his back did nothing, adding Moltzen into the halves changed everything!

On that note... Benji Marshall is the best footballer i have watched in years!

Yeah I'm loving Benji's work of late too mate….

Hey Benji in 6 works for Benji........... may as well work for the fans...........
 
@tiger05 said:
@hybrid_tiger said:
Hemmsleys Hairdresser - where art thou? :smiley:

And JT…

here i am!
what do you want me to say? as he has played well, i have said so. when he doesnt, i say so - and that is what gets to people.

i saw fox sports news after the tigers beat the bulldogs and they said "everything marshall touched turned to gold". this is the sort of one eyed view that annoys me about benji. were the 2 flick passes that went behind everyone gold, were they? i admit he did play well though.

it never ceases to amaze me the short memory marshalls fans have. dont you all remember the first half of the year when so many kicks went out on the full? over the dead ball line? cut out passes into the crowd? etc, etc, etc….

nope. only the back end of the season when I ADMIT that after greatly reducing his horrendous error rate, he played well. and that is awesome! no one here WANTS him to be so rubbish!! everyone is happy for him to play well: just call it how it is, thats all.

however. if you want a criticism here goes: marshall is fantastic once the pressure is off. i said earlier this season when our chances of the 8 looked to be all but gone that it wouldnt surprise me if benji started to play better now the pressure was off and that it would be a shame because no one would remember the poor form.

same goes for my assessments of him. i admit when he plays well and people only remember me bagging him when i think he deserves it. i like to think i call it as i see it and im not going to stop.

i would like nothing more than for him to continue next season the way he went at the end of the season, when suddenly the pack was no longer to blame, nor the backs, for his bad play.

regards, turnstyle (jt)
 
@tigergirlz said:
He wasn't the best player this season. He has been returning to the exciting five-eigthth of 2005, and his injury free season and the partnership with Moltzen has really helped. But there were 26 (?) rounds this season.

exactly. :master:
 
Contrary to some beliefs, i think Benji's move to halfback helped him. He may not have been a sucess there but i do think the responsibility gained there has made him a better player. It's no coincidence either that in first Moltzen and then Lui who both are proper halves, that Marshall's best form occured from there on.
 
Reminds me of Cliffie Lyons from Manly. Brilliant one minute gone walkabout the rest of the game.
How can he steer people around the park when he doen't know what he is going to do next.
We need an organiser!
 
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