Who is our kicker?

[TheDaBoss]

Ronnie Palmer

 

[sleeve]

You maybe right Demps but i,m concerned about Doueihes pace and i doubt he is faster then MCK and not as solid or deceptive in running style.I think he has good hands,but i think he is a 5/8. I know we spent big for him to play fullback but i am yet to be convinced that is his position TIME WILL TELL.

 

[Red88_Tiger]

You maybe right Demps but i,m concerned about Doueihes pace and i doubt he is faster then MCK and not as solid or deceptive in running style.I think he has good hands,but i think he is a 5/8. I know we spent big for him to play fullback but i am yet to be convinced that is his position TIME WILL TELL.

Not really big money for fb. If it's not working out I'm sure Madge will drop as he did mbye.

 

[bigsiro]

Momo is an average kicker. And now he might well go to Storm.
There is nothing we can do this late in the piece, but it’s a pretty sad situation: a team without a proper kicker is a write- off.

Leads me think:
Has there been a really successful team (or even a mildly successful team) that has NOT had a quality kicker?

 

[Guest]

Neither Benji or Doueihi looked convincing. I am not sure Momorovski or Doueihi will make the side for round 1, so likely Benji or Mbye.

Need to make sure all 4 put in as much practice as possible before round 1.

I can see a kick off coming to decide.

It was pretty windy over there during the trial, it definitely played a factor.

 

[TrueTiger]

Did I see Walters have a kick in the first trial....could be doing a fair bit of practise now that Mbye is sidelined..just don't know anything about his kicking though

 

[gallagher]

Momo is an average kicker. And now he might well go to Storm.
There is nothing we can do this late in the piece, but it’s a pretty sad situation: a team without a proper kicker is a write- off.

Leads me think:
Has there been a really successful team (or even a mildly successful team) that has NOT had a quality kicker?

Raiders would be the only one I can't think of with Meninga and Daley until Furner came along.

 

[tonza]

I hope Harvey is wrong. It is terrifying to think we paid a average of $550.000 over 4 years for a player that wont make the starting side.

 

[2041]

Momo is an average kicker. And now he might well go to Storm.
There is nothing we can do this late in the piece, but it’s a pretty sad situation: a team without a proper kicker is a write- off.

Leads me think:
Has there been a really successful team (or even a mildly successful team) that has NOT had a quality kicker?

It depends what you mean by quality. It's certainly not necessary to have an absolute gun, 80%+ kicker. Here are the primary kicker's season completion rate for recent premiers:
2019 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 75%
2018 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 77%
2017 Storm, Cameron Smith: 79%
2016 Sharks, James Maloney: 77%
2015 Cowboys, Jonathan Thurston: 78%
2014 Rabbitohs, Adam Reynolds: 79%
2013 Roosters, James Maloney: 87%

Monirovski is a 75% career kicker (small sample size). Can you win a comp with a 75% kicker? Yes, in fact it happened last year - though you'd prefer to be in the high 70s.

Primary kickers in good teams might be expected to take 120-130 shots at goal a year. The difference between a 75% kicker and a 78% kicker is about three or four goals a season, so let's say seven points. The Roosters scored 685 points last year, including finals. So the difference between good and excellent kicking was worth just more than 1% of their total points scored.

Basically, you don't want to have a terrible kicker - you need to at least nudging the mid 70s. But it's not vital to have an absolute metronome kicking for you, and it's perfectly possible to win with good rather than superb goal kicking.

 

[supercoach]

Benji is by far the most capable..but can his legs handle the job

 

[Geo]

Momo is an average kicker. And now he might well go to Storm.
There is nothing we can do this late in the piece, but it’s a pretty sad situation: a team without a proper kicker is a write- off.

Leads me think:
Has there been a really successful team (or even a mildly successful team) that has NOT had a quality kicker?

It depends what you mean by quality. It's certainly not necessary to have an absolute gun, 80%+ kicker. Here are the primary kicker's season completion rate for recent premiers:
2019 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 75%
2018 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 77%
2017 Storm, Cameron Smith: 79%
2016 Sharks, James Maloney: 77%
2015 Cowboys, Jonathan Thurston: 78%
2014 Rabbitohs, Adam Reynolds: 79%
2013 Roosters, James Maloney: 87%

Monirovski is a 75% career kicker (small sample size). Can you win a comp with a 75% kicker? Yes, in fact it happened last year - though you'd prefer to be in the high 70s.

Primary kickers in good teams might be expected to take 120-130 shots at goal a year. The difference between a 75% kicker and a 78% kicker is about three or four goals a season, so let's say seven points. The Roosters scored 685 points last year, including finals. So the difference between good and excellent kicking was worth just more than 1% of their total points scored.

Basically, you don't want to have a terrible kicker - you need to at least nudging the mid 70s. But it's not vital to have an absolute metronome kicking for you, and it's perfectly possible to win with good rather than superb goal kicking.

Good post..

ATM I don't think there are too many elite goal kickers in the NRL at this time ..probably Adam Reynolds is the best..there are certainly no El Masri's, Halligan's, Johns, Conlon's or Chook Herons...

All we need now is analysis of where they miss..in front, 10 to each side of the post, each touchline etc etc...

 

[2041]

Benji is by far the most capable..but can his legs handle the job

Marshall is a career 71% kicker, hasn't taken a shot at goal in the NRL since 2013 and clearly doesn't think his body will stand up to it. I think you should probably move on.

 

[supercoach]

Benji is by far the most capable..but can his legs handle the job

Marshall is a career 71% kicker, hasn't taken a shot at goal in the NRL since 2013 and clearly doesn't think his body will stand up to it. I think you should probably move on.

Benji was a ordinary kicker for a few seasons early in his kicking career, but the last few years was a pretty reliable kicker. Although that was a long time ago now

 

[2041]

Benji is by far the most capable..but can his legs handle the job

Marshall is a career 71% kicker, hasn't taken a shot at goal in the NRL since 2013 and clearly doesn't think his body will stand up to it. I think you should probably move on.

Benji was a ordinary kicker for a few seasons early in his kicking career, but the last few years was a pretty reliable kicker. Although that was a long time ago now

http://www.rugbyleagueproject.org/players/benji-marshall/summary.html

He was really only a regular kicker for four seasons - 2009-12. His success rate in those was 67%, 67%, 73%, 76%. Then he dropped back to 70% in 2013, which was the last time he kicked at all. Honestly it's a bloody big ask to think he'd be able to go at mid-70% range now.

 

[old_man_tiger]

Momo is an average kicker. And now he might well go to Storm.
There is nothing we can do this late in the piece, but it’s a pretty sad situation: a team without a proper kicker is a write- off.

Leads me think:
Has there been a really successful team (or even a mildly successful team) that has NOT had a quality kicker?

It depends what you mean by quality. It's certainly not necessary to have an absolute gun, 80%+ kicker. Here are the primary kicker's season completion rate for recent premiers:
2019 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 75%
2018 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 77%
2017 Storm, Cameron Smith: 79%
2016 Sharks, James Maloney: 77%
2015 Cowboys, Jonathan Thurston: 78%
2014 Rabbitohs, Adam Reynolds: 79%
2013 Roosters, James Maloney: 87%

Monirovski is a 75% career kicker (small sample size). Can you win a comp with a 75% kicker? Yes, in fact it happened last year - though you'd prefer to be in the high 70s.

Primary kickers in good teams might be expected to take 120-130 shots at goal a year. The difference between a 75% kicker and a 78% kicker is about three or four goals a season, so let's say seven points. The Roosters scored 685 points last year, including finals. So the difference between good and excellent kicking was worth just more than 1% of their total points scored.

Basically, you don't want to have a terrible kicker - you need to at least nudging the mid 70s. But it's not vital to have an absolute metronome kicking for you, and it's perfectly possible to win with good rather than superb goal kicking.

Good post..

ATM I don't think there are too many elite goal kickers in the NRL at this time ..probably Adam Reynolds is the best..there are certainly no El Masri's, Halligan's, Johns, Conlon's or Chook Herons...

All we need now is analysis of where they miss..in front, 10 to each side of the post, each touchline etc etc...

Bloke from Penriff is pretty good. Unfair advantage as he has a weather station and compass installed in his jaw.

 

[hugh1954]

Len Killeen 1969 GF kicker,remember well ended up I worked with Garry Leo in the finance industry for a few years .........memories

 

[bigsiro]

Momo is an average kicker. And now he might well go to Storm.
There is nothing we can do this late in the piece, but it’s a pretty sad situation: a team without a proper kicker is a write- off.

Leads me think:
Has there been a really successful team (or even a mildly successful team) that has NOT had a quality kicker?

It depends what you mean by quality. It's certainly not necessary to have an absolute gun, 80%+ kicker. Here are the primary kicker's season completion rate for recent premiers:
2019 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 75%
2018 Roosters, Lattrell Mitchell: 77%
2017 Storm, Cameron Smith: 79%
2016 Sharks, James Maloney: 77%
2015 Cowboys, Jonathan Thurston: 78%
2014 Rabbitohs, Adam Reynolds: 79%
2013 Roosters, James Maloney: 87%

Monirovski is a 75% career kicker (small sample size). Can you win a comp with a 75% kicker? Yes, in fact it happened last year - though you'd prefer to be in the high 70s.

Primary kickers in good teams might be expected to take 120-130 shots at goal a year. The difference between a 75% kicker and a 78% kicker is about three or four goals a season, so let's say seven points. The Roosters scored 685 points last year, including finals. So the difference between good and excellent kicking was worth just more than 1% of their total points scored.

Basically, you don't want to have a terrible kicker - you need to at least nudging the mid 70s. But it's not vital to have an absolute metronome kicking for you, and it's perfectly possible to win with good rather than superb goal kicking.

Brilliant!

All of those above were pretty high percent. Latrell only a bit below.
I think we would all take Momo @ 75%, but I am skeptical...

 

[bigsiro]

Primary kickers in good teams might be expected to take 120-130 shots at goal a year. The difference between a 75% kicker and a 78% kicker is about three or four goals a season, so let’s say seven points. The Roosters scored 685 points last year, including finals. So the difference between good and excellent kicking was worth just more than 1% of their total points scored.

That is true of the premiers. But of the also rans like us: if we have a 70% kicker (as we have done recently, as opposed to a solid kicker @ 80%) that would be about 12 goals, or 24 pts.
Sure, at the end of the season 24 pts doesn’t seem like much. But in individual games those points count! I reckon at least 3 games would be turned on those points, and could easily be the diff in making the 8 or not.