Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?

@kazoo-kid said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333704) said:
[Round 5 press conference](https://www.nrl.com/tv/matches/telstra-premiership/2021/round-5/wests-tigers-round-5/)

Madge said "our reserve grade side is going well". I assume that comment means we will see some of those players next week.

Why was Joey Leilua promoted when he had done little to warrant a recall. That was a blunder in terms of players being held accountable for poor performance. Nofo can go join him as a centre wing combo in NSW Cup.
 
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock and put Simpkins at 9.

Priority #3- fix the wings and centres. BJ and Kepoa arent showing worth, Roberts and Nufo not much better at the moment.

Priority #4- do anything to keep Laurie and Doueihi happy.

We have enough roster turnover at end of season to try to address this. Even raid Penrith, Storm, Raiders and Roosters lower grades where good reserves are stuck behind even better firsts.

AND- I'm sad to say, tap Maguire to fall on his sword and get Morris / Toovey even consider peptide Flanagan.
 
I’m worried for Diane Laurie. He came to the club wanting to play first grade. He’s putting in the effort but the way the rest of the team is playing he’ll be another promising player never to play finals football. I hope the poor performance culture doesn’t rub off on him.
 
So so disappointing. I turned the TV off at half time and went to the gym. I needed to get some frustration out. I had high expectations at the start of the year, but it's all looking very similar to the last however many years. The Cowboys had a punt on some younger players today and got a lot of effort and energy from them. I would do the same - we will not make the 8 with the squad we put on the field today. Simpkin, Simpkins, Cini,... at a minimum they must be given a run.
 
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- ***a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock*** and put Simpkins at 9.

Not particularly having a dig at you 2005, but Im sick of seeing this. Because it worked for 15 minutes last year and because of Watson/Radley we all need a small "ball playing lock".

Have you guys seen how many breaks are made through the middle third against us. The last thing we need is one less big guy on the field.
 
Time to move this organisation elsewhere, cause I'm done investing my money & time in watching a bad club. The sooner it's done, the sooner I can watch women's soccer. And I hate soccer.
 
@tiger5150 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333992) said:
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- ***a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock*** and put Simpkins at 9.

Not particularly having a dig at you 2005, but Im sick of seeing this. Because it worked for 15 minutes last year and because of Watson/Radley we all need a small "ball playing lock".

Have you guys seen how many breaks are made through the middle third against us. The last thing we need is one less big guy on the field.

Mate Im with you we need to shore up the middle,get go forward,get the ball to speedy backs and start defending as it should be,not half hearted attempts ..

Recruitment needs to really understand their job and the game...no more soft touches as in previous years including this year...
 
@joelcainenumber1fan said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333531) said:
@oldschooltiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333513) said:
@gnr4life said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333398) said:
Lol rebuild. What’s the point. We rebuild every year, doesn’t help. And what are we actually rebuilding?

Sorry I've lost count which rebuild we are upto. Season over.

the mcguire rebuild
which hes slowly started doing the 1st thing of taking away all the bad contracts while signing up young players
now he needs to try to devlop them to reach there full potential

Yes try to develop them the trouble is that’s Maguire’s trouble can’t develop can’t motivate can’t get them playing good football
 
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock and put Simpkins at 9.

Priority #3- fix the wings and centres. BJ and Kepoa arent showing worth, Roberts and Nufo not much better at the moment.

Priority #4- do anything to keep Laurie and Doueihi happy.

We have enough roster turnover at end of season to try to address this. Even raid Penrith, Storm, Raiders and Roosters lower grades where good reserves are stuck behind even better firsts.

AND- I'm sad to say, tap Maguire to fall on his sword and get Morris / Toovey even consider peptide Flanagan.

So what’s Maguire been doing the last 3 seasons
 
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334040) said:
@joelcainenumber1fan said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333531) said:
@oldschooltiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333513) said:
@gnr4life said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333398) said:
Lol rebuild. What’s the point. We rebuild every year, doesn’t help. And what are we actually rebuilding?

Sorry I've lost count which rebuild we are upto. Season over.

the mcguire rebuild
which hes slowly started doing the 1st thing of taking away all the bad contracts while signing up young players
now he needs to try to devlop them to reach there full potential

Yes try to develop them the trouble is that’s Maguire’s trouble can’t develop can’t motivate can’t get them playing good football

My answer to that is a draught horse wont win you a Melb Cup,doesnt matter how good the trainer is....
 
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334014) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333992) said:
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- ***a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock*** and put Simpkins at 9.

Not particularly having a dig at you 2005, but Im sick of seeing this. Because it worked for 15 minutes last year and because of Watson/Radley we all need a small "ball playing lock".

Have you guys seen how many breaks are made through the middle third against us. The last thing we need is one less big guy on the field.

Mate Im with you we need to shore up the middle,get go forward,get the ball to speedy backs and start defending as it should be,not half hearted attempts ..

Recruitment needs to really understand their job and the game...no more soft touches as in previous years including this year...

Wasn’t so long ago people were singing the praises of Hartigan and Maguire when it came to recruitment
 
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334051) said:
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334040) said:
@joelcainenumber1fan said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333531) said:
@oldschooltiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333513) said:
@gnr4life said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333398) said:
Lol rebuild. What’s the point. We rebuild every year, doesn’t help. And what are we actually rebuilding?

Sorry I've lost count which rebuild we are upto. Season over.

the mcguire rebuild
which hes slowly started doing the 1st thing of taking away all the bad contracts while signing up young players
now he needs to try to devlop them to reach there full potential

Yes try to develop them the trouble is that’s Maguire’s trouble can’t develop can’t motivate can’t get them playing good football

My answer to that is a draught horse wont win you a Melb Cup,doesnt matter how good the trainer is....

And yet he recruited or re- signed 76% of the squad so if he recruited a draught horse it rests with him he recruited that type of horse
 
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334060) said:
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334014) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333992) said:
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- ***a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock*** and put Simpkins at 9.

Not particularly having a dig at you 2005, but Im sick of seeing this. Because it worked for 15 minutes last year and because of Watson/Radley we all need a small "ball playing lock".

Have you guys seen how many breaks are made through the middle third against us. The last thing we need is one less big guy on the field.

Mate Im with you we need to shore up the middle,get go forward,get the ball to speedy backs and start defending as it should be,not half hearted attempts ..

Recruitment needs to really understand their job and the game...no more soft touches as in previous years including this year...

Wasn’t so long ago people were singing the praises of Hartigan and Maguire when it came to recruitment

Throw in Pascoe as well...he was one of them as well at the cafe drinking coffee with JTJ offering a position in a time of need...
This is why all need to be on the same page when it comes to the interest of the team and club...not just mates...
 
@tiger_heart said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333367) said:
Let's face it, this mob isn't going anywhere soon. We are NO chance of making the 8's, so why not plan now for next year, at least give us a reason to believe??

We've been planning for next year for the last 10 years ... it has not worked.
 
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334073) said:
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334051) said:
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334040) said:
@joelcainenumber1fan said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333531) said:
@oldschooltiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333513) said:
@gnr4life said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333398) said:
Lol rebuild. What’s the point. We rebuild every year, doesn’t help. And what are we actually rebuilding?

Sorry I've lost count which rebuild we are upto. Season over.

the mcguire rebuild
which hes slowly started doing the 1st thing of taking away all the bad contracts while signing up young players
now he needs to try to devlop them to reach there full potential

Yes try to develop them the trouble is that’s Maguire’s trouble can’t develop can’t motivate can’t get them playing good football

My answer to that is a draught horse wont win you a Melb Cup,doesnt matter how good the trainer is....

And yet he recruited or re- signed 76% of the squad so if he recruited a draught horse it rests with him he recruited that type of horse

He did ,and obviously his judgement of NRL players in this club isnt what he had at Souths or SL...He seems to want to mould a team from this lot...they havent the talent to succeed and it falls on him...sack him and his roster as well and see how the club goes...in my opinion FURTHER backwards and into relocation if he cant do the job by the end of his contract...
 
@gnr4life said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333398) said:
Lol rebuild. What’s the point. We rebuild every year, doesn’t help. And what are we actually rebuilding?

It's all we ever do... But badly we do it... Very badly
 
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334089) said:
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334073) said:
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334051) said:
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334040) said:
@joelcainenumber1fan said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333531) said:
@oldschooltiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333513) said:
@gnr4life said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333398) said:
Lol rebuild. What’s the point. We rebuild every year, doesn’t help. And what are we actually rebuilding?

Sorry I've lost count which rebuild we are upto. Season over.

the mcguire rebuild
which hes slowly started doing the 1st thing of taking away all the bad contracts while signing up young players
now he needs to try to devlop them to reach there full potential

Yes try to develop them the trouble is that’s Maguire’s trouble can’t develop can’t motivate can’t get them playing good football

My answer to that is a draught horse wont win you a Melb Cup,doesnt matter how good the trainer is....

And yet he recruited or re- signed 76% of the squad so if he recruited a draught horse it rests with him he recruited that type of horse

He did ,and obviously his judgement of NRL players in this club isnt what he had at Souths or SL...He seems to want to mould a team from this lot...they havent the talent to succeed and it falls on him...sack him and his roster as well and see how the club goes...in my opinion FURTHER backwards and into relocation if he cant do the job by the end of his contract...

You may well be right time will tell not sure if we need a new squad or just someone who can get the best out of what he has at his disposal re Holbrook and Griffin
 
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334060) said:
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334014) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333992) said:
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- ***a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock*** and put Simpkins at 9.

Not particularly having a dig at you 2005, but Im sick of seeing this. Because it worked for 15 minutes last year and because of Watson/Radley we all need a small "ball playing lock".

Have you guys seen how many breaks are made through the middle third against us. The last thing we need is one less big guy on the field.

Mate Im with you we need to shore up the middle,get go forward,get the ball to speedy backs and start defending as it should be,not half hearted attempts ..

Recruitment needs to really understand their job and the game...no more soft touches as in previous years including this year...

Wasn’t so long ago people were singing the praises of Hartigan and Maguire when it came to recruitment


Its the young blokes we have recruited that are our future and they get full marks for that.It will take time for them to mature but its no surprise that out lower grades are looking far healthier
 
@jadtiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334207) said:
@goanna57 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334060) said:
@truetiger said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1334014) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333992) said:
@2005magic said in [Why don't we start the rebuild NOW?](/post/1333778) said:
Priority #1- get an organiser and decision maker out there. Brooks isnt it. We need an organising 7.

Priority #2- ***a ball playing lock. I'd even try Liddle at lock*** and put Simpkins at 9.

Not particularly having a dig at you 2005, but Im sick of seeing this. Because it worked for 15 minutes last year and because of Watson/Radley we all need a small "ball playing lock".

Have you guys seen how many breaks are made through the middle third against us. The last thing we need is one less big guy on the field.

Mate Im with you we need to shore up the middle,get go forward,get the ball to speedy backs and start defending as it should be,not half hearted attempts ..

Recruitment needs to really understand their job and the game...no more soft touches as in previous years including this year...

Wasn’t so long ago people were singing the praises of Hartigan and Maguire when it came to recruitment


Its the young blokes we have recruited that are our future and they get full marks for that.It will take time for them to mature but its no surprise that out lower grades are looking far healthier

Hope you are right I do think that maybe 40-50% will make it but believe we need to balance this with good experienced player’s
 
We're midway through yet another rebuild at the moment.

This time were dead wooding players that were purchased as a "Hail Mary" quick fix by previous coach.

These guys are youngsters that will come good.

This our only choice, otherwise were back paying overs for has beens...

**Hold your nerve guys, 2021 was always gonna be messy**
 

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