Willie Mason [Discussion]

@Balmain Bug said:
He is a zillion times better than Bell and will offer more impact than Groat and Woods. But the bloke is a PR nightmare. He called another bloke that baited him on twitter 2 days ago a 'C' word. He is truly a child. He will never grow up.

Read his tweets, they are embarrassing . He thinks he is some type of Harlem Gangster. He needs to drop all that childish rubbish and man up.

I would release BELL (on par with Jason Cayless and Trent Runcimen) and sign Mason on the proviso that he drops Twitter and his gangster Kings Cross / Maroubra image.

We will be in the top 4 for sure with Mason playing 30 minutes plus. Bending the line back with greatly benefit Robbie and Benji.

You're pretty much on the mark Bug except I'd say Woods will kick up another gear this year and will probably outshine Mason if he gets a start. The bloke is a mess off-field and I wouldn't be wanting my kids emulating his behaviour. He would however slot into our side nicely off the bench as you mentioned, injecting him late in the first half and in the middle 20 of the second.

As someone mentioned already though, out of the Sydney clubs showing interest in him, surely his best bet in order to reap the cash in his last few seasons would be to sign with a club who is a real prospect to win the premiership?
 
You'd think it'd have to be sorted pretty soon. The seasons just over a month away and trials a couple of weeks. He hasn't got forever.
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HMMM well if we got him cheap,and he performed well then thats a bonus . If he stuffs up he is straight out the door,so it could work for Wests.Ido think on the field he would offer more than Bell will.Off the field well thats up to Mason.
 
If Farah & Marshall vetoed Todd Carney joining us a few years ago, I wonder where they stand with Mason.
If there is a club to rebuild his image though, it is our one. Mason is a sheep and he had more negative influencers around him at the other clubs he played for then you'll ever find here. I think players like Blair, Ellis, Lawrence, Farah, and Benji will keep him grounded.
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@benji#6 said:
Couldnt help but notice this got a little mention in todays tele!!

Last week they said he was no chance for the tigers lol….I'm happy for him to join we have made alot worse signings over the years. Pretty sure it will be sorted in the next fortnight
 
Depends on what Willie wants $$$ or a chance at a premiership and his legacy. I know that out offer is low, around the 120k mark but the vibe is yes he is a big chance to sign with us, only threat is penrith I believe, heard parra pulled out last week
 
Is there a deadline for the offer? You'd think that if we were keen on signing him up that we'd want him at training as soon as possible?
 
According to one of our players (spoke to him after training on Friday arvo), Mason hasn't been talked about at all.
And he didn't seem to think there'd be enough money in the cap.

SG, is the 120k offer like Utai's was last year, and in the 2nd tier players ?
 
When you do the sums though, surely their would not be much cap space left. Payten, Gibbs, Flannagan & Fifita not being with us would be a $600k difference in the cap. We have bought a couple of nuffies to replace them and Adam Blair. If you believe what they say, blair cost $500K which is what Payten and Gibbs cost combined.

Im scratching my head, I hope Humphries plays within the rules and the cap.
 
Don't forget Lui was down to be a part of this years cap as well. His departure may have freed up some space.
And the money from Dwyers contract as well, which wouldn't fall under the salary cap due to his inavailability.
 
@smoking gun said:
Depends on what Willie wants $$$ or a chance at a premiership and his legacy. I know that out offer is low, around the 120k mark but the vibe is yes he is a big chance to sign with us, only threat is penrith I believe, heard parra pulled out last week

Smoking Gun I don't want to question the plans for the club as they are far more experienced in these matter than I will ever be , but when I hire a new employee that I have queries about I weigh up the pros and cons

The cons must heavily outweigh the pros in the case of Mason both off and on the field and he would be a high risk signing even if we only paying 120k imo

My greatest concern would be him getting involved in something off field and us risk losing sponsorship dollars which is worth probably more than on field with the ramifications that places on the brand that is the Wests Tigers
 
@Tiger Watto said:
lol… I highly doubt the financial position of the Club is discussed with the Players.

I think what he means Watto is players have an idea of other players worth and yes they most certainly do discuss what they think another player might be on just like we do. And like us they have probably come to the conclusion we are close to our max.

Like I said previously Mason is No Chance.
 
I'd believe Blair is on $500k, but how much is attributed to the Salary Cap is anyone's guess. Its not that simple.

As to 'rules'… Well they are open to interpretation Bug, and I'm sure Humpty has read the rules over and over to ensure he interprets them as what's best for the Wests Tigers!
 
@happy tiger said:
@smoking gun said:
Depends on what Willie wants $$$ or a chance at a premiership and his legacy. I know that out offer is low, around the 120k mark but the vibe is yes he is a big chance to sign with us, only threat is penrith I believe, heard parra pulled out last week

Smoking Gun I don't want to question the plans for the club as they are far more experienced in these matter than I will ever be , but when I hire a new employee that I have queries about I weigh up the pros and cons

The cons must heavily outweigh the pros in the case of Mason both off and on the field and he would be a high risk signing even if we only paying 120k imo

My greatest concern would be him getting involved in something off field and us risk losing sponsorship dollars which is worth probably more than on field with the ramifications that places on the brand that is the Wests Tigers

I don't remember him stepping out of line at the Cowboys? Or at Hull. Really what was the last thing he did that landed him in serious strife? Not trying to defend the undefendable, but i'm struggling to recall the last thing he did wrong. Was it urinating in public?
 
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