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@DavidDuncan said:
Apple did something similar with Mac OS X and had a Mac classic mode for older apps.

But Apples market share, especially in the enterprise and business world is a fraction of MS'…. not only would this be stupid financially but ethically.
 
@Kaiser said:
@DavidDuncan said:
Apple did something similar with Mac OS X and had a Mac classic mode for older apps.

But Apples market share, especially in the enterprise and business world is a fraction of MS'…. not only would this be stupid financially but ethically.

Not if done correctly. With the current XP mode virtual machine in Win 7, I have been able to get things working that didn't work properly natively in Win7.

If they could invest time into getting it right, so that even normal end users could just install apps and Windows would detect if they need to run in native mode or classic mode, then I don't see the ethical issue in it.
 
@DavidDuncan said:
@Kaiser said:
@DavidDuncan said:
Apple did something similar with Mac OS X and had a Mac classic mode for older apps.

But Apples market share, especially in the enterprise and business world is a fraction of MS'…. not only would this be stupid financially but ethically.

Not if done correctly. With the current XP mode virtual machine in Win 7, I have been able to get things working that didn't work properly natively in Win7.

If they could invest time into getting it right, so that even normal end users could just install apps and Windows would detect if they need to run in native mode or classic mode, then I don't see the ethical issue in it.

Very true…. converted! Comeon MS! Make the complete change haha
 
Well, that's the ball and chain right there. There was no competition for Microsoft in the 90's, so they were aloud to get away with mediocrity. The only saving grace for them is that they have such a big market share, but in terms of personal computing experience, Apple's and I guess Google's integration in all aspects of life is unquestioned, everything works together, mobile, desktop and now cloud services. They are moving forward and creating new devices and OSs.

Microsoft is a master of business machines, not personal computing. This is reflected in their overall strategy (or complete lack there of) and their integration of their products, which do not integrate into people's life seamlessly. Not only that, they have a million versions of their OS, with price differences of 100's of dollars, where as Apple has one OS (for pcs) that has everything. upgradable for $30 bucks or so from the old OS.

They don't understand how people interact with personal computers and have shown no innovation for at least the last decade.They are only playing catch up and are still a few years behind. Microsoft should stick with building OSs for business and Office and all that and let companies that understand how people interacted with each other the digital world build Personal Computers and Mobile devices that are innovative and imaginative.
 
@Adman said:
Well, that's the ball and chain right there. There was no competition for Microsoft in the 90's, so they were aloud to get away with mediocrity. The only saving grace for them is that they have such a big market share, but in terms of personal computing experience, Apple's and I guess Google's integration in all aspects of life is unquestioned, everything works together, mobile, desktop and now cloud services. They are moving forward and creating new devices and OSs.

Microsoft is a master of business machines, not personal computing. This is reflected in their overall strategy (or complete lack there of) and their integration of their products, which do not integrate into people's life seamlessly. Not only that, they have a million versions of their OS, with price differences of 100's of dollars, where as Apple has one OS (for pcs) that has everything. upgradable for $30 bucks or so from the old OS.

They don't understand how people interact with personal computers and have shown no innovation for at least the last decade.They are only playing catch up and are still a few years behind. Microsoft should stick with building OSs for business and Office and all that and let companies that understand how people interacted with each other the digital world build Personal Computers and Mobile devices that are innovative and imaginative.

While I haven't used a Mac in over a decade, I do have an iPhone. Now while some things are easier on there, some just are much harder. iTunes is a terrible piece of software (referred as a Binary Turd in an article I read) and you have to convert all your music and videos into "apple approved" formats if you want to watch them on the device. I know there are 3rd party apps out there that have larger format support, but it should be supported natively.

I have a huge library of divx and mkv files that run perfectly fine on my WDTV Live device but need to be converted to watch on iPhone / iPad, which is a long and painful experience.

I guess I'm not quite ready to jump on the Steve Jobs bandwagon just yet.

Cost is a big issue for Microsoft though because they don't do hardware like apple. Apple can afford to give the software away because the hardware to run it is so expensive (and required).
 
It's hardly expensive mate. Have a look at the prices online. Unless your comparing it to the Harvey Norman or Dell POS.
 
Nice looking Dev rig that this guy has hooked up to his Windows 8 tablet.

http://joshsmithonwpf.wordpress.com/2011/09/18/winrt-is-your-friend/

Looks like Harvey Norman is selling them, wonder if I could convince my work to buy one….

http://www.harveynorman.com.au/product/1256975559839/asus-eee-pad--tablet
 

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