WOULD YOU VACCINATE TO BE ABLE TO WATCH SPORTS

[mike]

You're the one that needs to start thinking for himself. He and many other doctors like him helped many patients through covid treatments.

No he didn't, he spread untruths and fake medicine and is being investigated for it. He's been widely discredited by his peers. As far as COVID is concerned he's a dangerous quack.

You're free to believe him (at your peril), but don't expect others to be on bended knee before him.

Only thing thats fake is your blind trust to an experimental jab. Instead we have many doctors like Dr Mcullough who have had great results treating covid.

For goodness sake even the inventor of mRNA vaccine technology **Dr Robert Malone** has spoken about the dangers of the spike protein created from the experimental jab.

Again, Dr Robert Malone Is not the inventor of the mRNA vaccines or technology. He is a professor that once wrote a paper about in 1989. Yes it was an influential paper but he is definitely not the inventor. It’s like saying H.G. Wells invented space travel because he wrote about it.

Do you enjoy disagreeing with me for the sake of it? He is the inventor of mRNA vaccines

You still don't get this do you. A single persons opinion is irrelevant. Do you understand this ? The facts matter. Opinions do not matter.

Do you realize that people are dying ? Do you realize basically no one who is fully vaccinated is dying ?

Your glass is full no point trying to reason with you

But you are not trying to reason with anyone. The thinking you have put forward so far does not hold up against scrutiny. The items you put forward are not supported by evidence. They are basically pseudoscience arguments and lack critical thinking.

I’ll go wherever the evidence goes. Opinion is not evidence. Antidotal accounts are not evidence. Where’s the evidence?

 

[earl]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

 

[earl]

But you are not trying to reason with anyone. The thinking you have put forward so far does not hold up against scrutiny. That items you put forward are not supported by evidence. They are basically pseudoscience arguments and lack critical thinking. I’ll go wherever the evidence goes. Opinion is not evidence. Antidotal accounts are not evidence. Where’s the evidence?

I don't get these arguments. How many people on here have stated Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) may have some use cases. It's me and the crazies. I follow the facts. I don't care about the politics.

I want one of the crazies to give me better data than the CDC data I have provided. I will change my mind if you can beat that. I know they can't because the data doesn't exist because it only exists in an alternate reality.

Meanwhile people die.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

 

[cochise]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

I have checked this, she died from a heart attack that was brought on by her illness.

 

[earl]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

So you didn't read the facts that I provided ? How about the facts that back up your alternate reality ?

If you don't post your facts then I have to assume that you are lying. Provide the facts or you are a liar. Go on - prove me wrong.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Just checked this again Earl and can reconfirm you have not offered one single fact in your opinion piece

On multiple occassions I've posted facts but I'll do it again.

https://context-cdn.washingtonpost.com/notes/prod/default/documents/54f57708-a529-4a33-9a44-b66d719070d9/note/753667d6-8c61-495f-b669-5308f2827155.#page=1

This is a leaked report from the CDC. You cannot get more factual than this. I have provided this link on this forum previously as well.

I also posted what I believe is the best available report on Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) and I actually believe which the facts confirm that Ivermectin (a drug which the clinical evidence shows is not statistically effective) is something that has some really good use cases. This information is extremely up to date.

The point being I am not cherry picking facts.

Facts:-

1. The US has about a 60% vaccination rate.
2. In the US you are 8 times more likely to get COVID if you are unvaccinated.
3. In the US you are 25 times more likely to get COVID and require hospitalization if you are unvaccinated..
4. In the US you are 25 times more likely to get COVID and die than if you are unvaccinated.
5. Your chances of dying from COVID and being fully vaccinated is exceptionally low.
6. We have very low rates of COVID in Australia right now and yet people as young as in their 20's are dying from COVID. These people if they were fully vaccinated would have lived.


=The facts prove that you are speaking complete and utter dribble. Your argument that I am giving an opinion is false. I am making conclusions based on the data. You can disagree with my conclusions but you cannot disagree with the facts because they are facts.

Leaked data from the CDC to the Washington Post is the most factual you can get? Can't agree with that, both organisations have significant shortcomings and are potentially part of the problem

It is challenging to get reliable data outlining the vaxxed/non-vaxxed split on cases and deaths so conclusions are difficult with lots of conflicting information out there

In terms of an argument that goes to people as young as in their 20s, whilst I was sad to hear the news today, it is an anomaly if you look at the age profile of the deaths in Australia

 

[dazza65]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

Let me guess your validated source: Facebook; twitter; DailyMail ?

 

[Tiger Beach]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

So you didn't read the facts that I provided ? How about the facts that back up your alternate reality ?

If you don't post your facts then I have to assume that you are lying. Provide the facts or you are a liar. Go on - prove me wrong.

Facts are rarely so, all are open to manipulation

Assume whatever you like Earl

I respect your right to your opinion and you won't drag me into a name calling battle

 

[earl]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

So you didn't read the facts that I provided ? How about the facts that back up your alternate reality ?

If you don't post your facts then I have to assume that you are lying. Provide the facts or you are a liar. Go on - prove me wrong.

Facts are rarely so, all are open to manipulation

Assume whatever you like Earl

I respect your right to your opinion and you won't drag me into a name calling battle

Thanks for the confirmation that you don't have any facts to back up your crazy belief system. I guess that means you are a liar.

End of story.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

So you didn't read the facts that I provided ? How about the facts that back up your alternate reality ?

If you don't post your facts then I have to assume that you are lying. Provide the facts or you are a liar. Go on - prove me wrong.

Facts are rarely so, all are open to manipulation

Assume whatever you like Earl

I respect your right to your opinion and you won't drag me into a name calling battle

Thanks for the confirmation that you don't have any facts to back up your crazy belief system. I guess that means you are a liar.

End of story.

As I said you won’t drag me into a name calling battle

I wish you well

 

[851]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

https://www.worldometers.info/coronavirus/
World wide covid stats, so none of these people died from covid, they died from something else, that is one hell of a coincidence, and these are only the recorded cases
Coronavirus Cases:
200,278,892
Deaths:
4,258,923

 

[GNR4LIFE]

I hate people so lock me up I couldn't care less

This is the most sensible post in the entire thread.

 

[earl]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVpledQ-rk&list=TLPQMDQwODIwMjGZ-PdOqwPqAA&index=3

This is interesting. People are dying and they ask why and it's people spreading false information.

 

[Tiger Beach]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iJVpledQ-rk&list=TLPQMDQwODIwMjGZ-PdOqwPqAA&index=3

This is interesting. People are dying and they ask why and it's people spreading false information.

MSNBC

What a shock

 

[mike]

@851 Just in case people won’t click the link you provided:


 

[earl]

Fake news. Those 4 million weren't tested correctly. It was probably a common cold. Stop giving me opinions.

 

[Tiger Beach]

Fake news. Those 4 million weren't tested correctly. It was probably a common cold. Stop giving me opinions.

Finally some facts 😁

 

[Demps]

@hobbo1 you ain't posting ?
How'd your vaccine going ?

Feels like a dead arm from Paul Vaughan or what?

 

[earl]

Personal attacks won't be tolerated. Please be civil and constructive.

Its not an attack. Im seriously concerned for people's health and welfare. There are deaths occurring from blood clots. This is fact

A 20 year old man died of covid today, that is a fact, an alarming fact at that

I keep stating this. These crazy beliefs are already killing people. It's not a joke.

His Mum also has it and has been taken to hospital


that's no joke..

It is to people like @tiger beach and @philgood. To them this is a political debate. The political debate is much more important to them than people dying.

Just think on that for a minute. They would much rather stick to their alternate reality and have people die than admit they have it completely wrong.

I mentioned those removalists that went to Melbourne. It was a joke to them. Their mum is dead in her 50's. She could have taken a vaccine and she would still be alive.

That is reality.

The poor woman that died did so of a heart attack, no doubt attributable to the stress she was under with all of the media attention

But since she had tested positive, you know the drill , "died with covid"

I have checked this, she died from a heart attack that was brought on by her illness.

Unvaccinated.