Your Team v Donkeys

If the only change is switching douehi and Mbye I’ll staple the team list to Paul Kent’s front door
 
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410067) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410056) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410006) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409969) said:
@tiger5150 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1409899) said:
@851 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1407301) said:
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406146) said:
As for Mbye, he offers nothing in attack and is a weak defender. Definitely had his chance. Doueihi should be 5/8,I’d probably have Mbye on the bench as a utility,

100% Mbye should be dropped, we had our best game against souths in rd6, it was a GP loss but it was against quality opposition, Doueihi was 6 that day, we should have stuck with that combo


Explain to me how your logic works?

We had our best game against Souffs Rd 6 so we should keep AD at 6?

The next week we lost 40-6 with AD at 6. The week before, we lost to Cowboys with AD at 6. Two weeks later we lost to Titans, with AD at 6.

Please extend that logic for me?

Doueihi was moved to placate Brooks, Brooks couldn't work with Doueihi, Brooks should have been dropped, not move Doueihi


Ok, I asked for logic, but you can read minds. I cant argue with that.

With AD at 6 we won 2 of 9 including two losses to teams below us at the time.

After moving him we have won 3 of 6 (and played 3 of the top 4)

I cant read minds like you but these are FACTS :fire: :fire: :fire: (for @Demps )

And got absolutely belted the last 3 games when Doueihi wasn't at 6, so whats your point,

Pretty simple point, our win rate, against harder opposition is twice as good when Mbye is at 6 than AD. i.e. we lose twice as many games with AD at 6, against weaker opposition.

I have my opinion, and you have yours, so take as many potshots at me as you like, won't change my mind.


Mate, not taking potshots. YOu are entitled to your opinion. You stated that AD should be 6 because of the Souffs game.

I asked why and what is the logic and backed it up with very poor results when we AD is 6 compared to Mbye. You didnt respond with any logic or stats or reality, you responded with an opinion of another persons state of mind that you have never met. Hard to argue with....

I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Wow - Reynolds is spot on. A lot of posters have been seeing parts of this all year, yet nothing done. He's right to rate Brooks and Laurie. He is also so right about our edges. Our backrowers just do not shift out to cover gaps - been happening all year. I bet all the other teams have this as a blueprint on how to defeat us.
 
This one is controversial but change needs to happen

1. Laurie
2. Cini / Kiah
3. Nofoaluma
4. Talau / Pauga
5. Maumalo
6. Doueihi
7. Brooks
8. Stefano
9. Simpkin
10. Twal
11. Garner
12. Blore
13. Luch

14. Mbye / Liddle
15. Mikaele
16. Tuilagi / Amone / Seyfarth / Tuki
17. Joffa
 
@compensate said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412659) said:
This one is controversial but change needs to happen

1. Laurie
2. Cini / Kiah
3. Nofoaluma
4. Talau / Pauga
5. Maumalo
6. Doueihi
7. Brooks
8. Stefano
9. Simpkin
10. Twal
11. Garner
12. Blore
13. Luch

14. Mbye / Liddle
15. Mikaele
16. Tuilagi / Amone / Seyfarth / Tuki
17. Joffa

Chances of any of this happening is pretty low but I can only hope...
 
@wt46 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412593) said:
Drop Nof, Mbye, Garner, Tamou, Twal... all plodders

In a team that’s letting in 6 tries per game, it’s rarely anywhere near Twal. He’s one that we should lock down, would kill it in a good system.
 
@voice_of_reason said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410350) said:
@tigerballs said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1410136) said:
I spoke to Adam Reynolds this week. They expected a tough game after the last one because WT energy surprised them. Their plan was to attack the edges in tight because the middles are stiff but if you run just off the middles, the edges stay tight and open up outside because they won't shift out. Simple as that. There's numbers outside because they play the man. Maybe Noffa is right calling out his A and B defenders, whoever they are? Anyway, his take on a few WT...
Smash Twal and Tamou because they are the only go forward, the rest are easy stops. Draw Twal and Tamou in defence and hold them in the wrestle so they mark and then pass wide from the play the ball. Run a decoy at or draw Douehei because he'll commit and leave a gap outside. Joffa hurts in defence and made a difference when he came on because he seems to be at the point of attack all the time and niggles and bustles. Rates him. They target LL because he's all over the shop. Rates Brooks. Rates Laurie.

Good stuff. Pretty much identical to what was discussed in other threads. A & B defenders poor, LL fatigues and has no lateral movement. Tamou poor around the ruck - especially at dummy half. AD runs in and leaves gaps. Space out wide caused by poor work in the middle.

I missed my calling - should have been a coach 🙂

I'll see myself out now...

Hey coach. Can you explain why they appeared to wait until the second half to fix some of these problems?
 
@wt2019 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412691) said:
Hey coach. Can you explain why they appeared to wait until the second half to fix some of these problems?

That's the $64,000 question - some things defy logic.

Preparation, warm up, diet, nerves, music - it's anyone's guess. Maybe I should offer myself to give the pre-game speech on behalf of the fans; explain to them how privileged they are and how they should be ashamed of their performances.
 
Anyone think this is a massive game for Maguire? This game and the two against Bulldogs will have a huge bearing on the club and Maguire's tenure. People are forgiving of subpar performances against top sides but there's absolutely no excuse against lower clubs, and we're playing so badly at the moment that I don't think we can beat anyone. I would still blame players, not Maguire, but I don't think the club could handle the pressure of losing these games and coping the media scrutiny that'd come with it. Big couple months for the future of our club. Sucks that games against Bulldogs and Broncos matter so much.
 
@watersider said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412725) said:
Anyone think this is a massive game for Maguire? This game and the two against Bulldogs will have a huge bearing on the club and Maguire's tenure. People are forgiving of subpar performances against top sides but there's absolutely no excuse against lower clubs, and we're playing so badly at the moment that I don't think we can beat anyone. I would still blame players, not Maguire, but I don't think the club could handle the pressure of losing these games and coping the media scrutiny that'd come with it. Big couple months for the future of our club. Sucks that games against Bulldogs and Broncos matter so much.

Absolutley. We have 8 games left
3 Must wins vs Broncos and Dogs x 2
2 Def Losses v Manly and Panthers
3 50/50 games v Warriros, Cowboys, Sharks.

Team and Madge need to win those 3 and then prob best we can hope for is 2/3 from the 50/50 games. We finish with 4/5 wins from the last 8 and Madge holds on.

Our next 4 in QLD are Broncos, Manly, Warriors, Dogs - We need to win the 2 obvious ones and if we also win Warriros then its been a success. Honestly dont mind at this stage if Manly flog us again. The top 6 are in a different league to the other 10 at full strength (and the top 4 clear of the other 2 as well)
 
@bagnf05 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412668) said:
@wt46 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1412593) said:
Drop Nof, Mbye, Garner, Tamou, Twal... all plodders

In a team that’s letting in 6 tries per game, it’s rarely anywhere near Twal. He’s one that we should lock down, would kill it in a good system.

I am not sure of that. Check our middle defenders and see which one stop moving out once the ball goes past them.
 
I said this when Madge made the initial Mbye to 5/8 and AD to centre move. This wasn't sustainable and the only reason he did that was to change things for the sake of it and to ignite a bit of response. Same as Noffa to left wing.

I really respect what Madge is trying to do in the bigger scheme but he needs to stop making these shortsighted changes. The Mbye to 5/8 move paid off for one game when Madge was under fire.

Pick your best 17 in their right positions where they practiced pre-season.
 
@demps said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406176) said:
@jc99 said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1406166) said:
Tuilagi would be a slower centre than Joey lol. He's a second rower or lock, use him off the bench

He's pretty quick man.
He could be a revelation.

Like a better version of MCK.

Impossible.
 
Team list Tuesday - Who's excited to see the same team line up as the bunnies :man-raising-hand:
 
@madge said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1413818) said:
Team list Tuesday - Who's excited to see the same team line up as the bunnies :man-raising-hand:

👋💥🤦‍♂️
 
@madge said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1413818) said:
Team list Tuesday - Who's excited to see the same team line up as the bunnies :man-raising-hand:

Me , me

Cant wait to see Packers return 🤤
 
![image0-3.png](/assets/uploads/files/1626140727528-image0-3.png)

Posted by elite boys General @JC99 👑
 
@demps said in [Your Team v Donkeys](/post/1413831) said:
![image0-3.png](/assets/uploads/files/1626140727528-image0-3.png)

Posted by elite boys General @JC99 👑

The return of the five eighth kinggg
 
1 Laurie
2 Maumalo
3 Roberts
4 Pauga
5 Nofo
6 AD 👑
7 Brooks
8 Twal
9 Liddle
10 Tamou
11 Luciano
12 Garner
13 Offa

14 Mbye
15 Utoikamanu
16 Seyfarth
17 Mikaele
 

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