Tigers eye permanent move back to spiritual homes at Leichhardt, Campbelltown

cktiger said:
This gets churned out nearly every year and nothing ever comes of it.
God help us if it does happen as crowds will be pathetic and it will not help us in any way.
People from the rest of Sydney just don’t want to travel there… along with most corporates.
At least other far flung Sydney grounds like Penrith and Manly can usually fill their stadiums with their own supporters.
That does not seem to be the case for us at Campbelltown.
And, just because a bunch of people are moving into the area doesn’t mean they are all going to become WestsTigers supporters.
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Of course it doesn't, but there is far less chance of the kids of that area supporting WT over any other team if they are never there. The thing that makes the Panthers strong is most of the kids in the Penrith junior league want to play for them. Its a "FTA" thing. When you go to a Panthers game a large percentage of the people there are locals. I'm not sure you could say that about a WT game and i think that comes from not being attached to any particular area.
 
Kearnsy said:
What are the crowd averages at Brookvale? What were the averages at Penrith before 2020? Both teams have had a lot more success than wests have the last decade. We have packed Campbelltown out many times when we were successful and will again. We just need more of a presence in the area and our marketing here for games is atrocious. You wouldn’t even know a game is on half the time. We play a lot of out of town teams at Campbelltown at garbage times.
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Campbelltown Stadium gets almost as many excuses for not performing as Luke Brooks.
You would think the few games there would draw good crowds, at least from local supporters, but they don't.
Having more games there would thin the herd out even more.
It's just not a desirable destination for most other supporters - as well as plenty of Tigers fans from elsewhere in the city.
Just my opinion... not putting hate on the place.
 
cktiger said:
Campbelltown Stadium gets almost as many excuses for not performing as Luke Brooks.
You would think the few games there would draw good crowds, at least from local supporters, but they don't.
Having more games there would thin the herd out even more.
It's just not a desirable destination for most other supporters - as well as plenty of Tigers fans from elsewhere in the city.
Just my opinion... not putting hate on the place.
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Where should we set up for the next 100 years? The M4 corridor has enough teams
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
I suspect that the owners of the club would prefer grounds in proximity to them.

If we were to consider the move to Campbelltown full time, campaign for a serious upgrade to the ground. Partner up with the Bulls and ask for a 30-35k stadium. Play 2 or 3 heritage games at LO and the rest at Campbelltown. I don't think Ashfield have that in their plans though, I feel they want to stay in the inner west, the traditional Wests homeland, where they will see patronage pre/post game.
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Do they actually see any patronage from games in the inner west. I have no idea if they do or they don't. I'm just wondering how many people actually go back to Ashfield after a game rather than a few drinks around Leichhardt or Olympic stadium precinct. Do the team always go back to Wests Ashfield?
 
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boonboon said:
Only once in 15 years have Panthers averaged over 14k at home and that was in 2018. Despite success we have higer attendances on average because we choose a right groud right games strategy. So seems that your argument actually supports not going back .
Manly despite lots of winning years only scraped over 14k at brookvale in 2008 and not since

Wests tigers in the same period have regularily averaged over 15k and quite often over 17k ave home crowds despite being rubbish.
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Averaged over 15k at Campbelltown?
Are they counting the pigeons?
 
diedpretty said:
Do they actually see any patronage from games in the inner west. I have no idea if they do or they don't. I'm just wondering how many people actually go back to Ashfield after a game rather than a few drinks around Leichhardt or Olympic stadium precinct. Do the team always go back to Wests Ashfield?
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Not always...
Not as often as they used to at Cambo say.
Last time I went back, It wasn't that big a deal... Not many punters.
 
diedpretty said:
Do they actually see any patronage from games in the inner west. I have no idea if they do or they don't. I'm just wondering how many people actually go back to Ashfield after a game rather than a few drinks around Leichhardt or Olympic stadium precinct. Do the team always go back to Wests Ashfield?
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Anecdotal but I know a few people who do either pre/post game drinks at Ashfield before/after LO games.
 
boonboon said:
Only once in 15 years have Panthers averaged over 14k at home and that was in 2018. Despite success we have higer attendances on average because we choose a right groud right games strategy. So seems that your argument actually supports not going back .
Manly despite lots of winning years only scraped over 14k at brookvale in 2008 and not since

Wests tigers in the same period have regularily averaged over 15k and quite often over 17k ave home crowds despite being rubbish.
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Our residency at ANZ and Parra Stadium would definitely be contributing to that average.

Since 2015 (abitrary date selection as it gives us five seasons until 2020 when COVID ruined everything,) this is how many games above 15K we've had at our respective regular home grounds:

Leichhardt Oval

2015 - 0, average 10.5K (4 games)
2016 - 1, average 13.3K (4 games)
2017 - 0, average 12.1K (4 games)
2018 - 2, average 16.1K (3 games)
2019 - 1, average 14.2K (3 games)

Campbelltown Stadium

2015 - 0, average 9.4K (4 games)
2016 - 1, average 12.3K (4 games)
2017 - 0, average 9.6K (4 games)
2018 - 0, average 9.4K (3 games)
2019 - 1, average 12.0K (3 games)

Stadium Australia & Parra Stadium

2015 - 7, average 19.4K (8 games)
2016 - 4, average 17.3K (8 games)
2017 - 4, average 19.1K (7 games)
2018 - 5, average 18.9K (7 games)
2019 - 3, average 16.7K (7 games)

Overall LO does better than CSS, but we only have seen 2 more games above 15K at LO than CSS, and only one season where either spiritual ground saw above 15K. Stadium Australia and Parra Stadium seriously pads our ground averages and is the only ground(s) where we average above 15K yearly. Our surburban grounds don't attract like the bigger stadiums, and that's probably because the opposition are turning up in droves to watch their team spank us.
 
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cktiger said:
Campbelltown Stadium gets almost as many excuses for not performing as Luke Brooks.
You would think the few games there would draw good crowds, at least from local supporters, but they don't.
Having more games there would thin the herd out even more.
It's just not a desirable destination for most other supporters - as well as plenty of Tigers fans from elsewhere in the city.
Just my opinion... not putting hate on the place.
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I think also with the south West people move out there to buy homes and space etc but they have allegiance to existing teams much like why gold Coast is never really successful with crowds.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Our residency at ANZ and Parra Stadium would definitely be contributing to that average.

Since 2015 (abitrary date selection as it gives us five seasons until 2020 when COVID ruined everything,) this is how many games above 15K we've had at our respective regular home grounds:

Leichhardt Oval

2015 - 0, average 10.5K (4 games)
2016 - 1, average 13.3K (4 games)
2017 - 0, average 12.1K (4 games)
2018 - 2, average 16.1K (3 games)
2019 - 1, average 14.2K (3 games)

Campbelltown Stadium

2015 - 0, average 9.4K (4 games)
2016 - 1, average 12.3K (4 games)
2017 - 0, average 9.6K (4 games)
2018 - 0, average 9.4K (3 games)
2019 - 1, average 12.0K (3 games)

Stadium Australia & Parra Stadium

2015 - 7, average 19.4K (8 games)
2016 - 4, average 17.3K (8 games)
2017 - 4, average 19.1K (7 games)
2018 - 5, average 18.9K (7 games)
2019 - 3, average 16.7K (7 games)

Overall LO does better than CSS, but we only have seen 2 more games above 15K at LO than CSS, and only one season where either spiritual ground saw above 15K. Stadium Australia and Parra Stadium seriously pads our ground averages and is the only ground(s) where we average above 15K yearly. Our surburban grounds don't attract like the bigger stadiums, and that's probably because the opposition are turning up in droves to watch their team spank us.
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The stats have been pointing us to stadiums for years now but they are ignored. That bullshit word 'tribalism' gets too much say.
 
Jedi_Tiger said:
I think also with the south West people move out there to buy homes and space etc but they have allegiance to existing teams much like why gold Coast is never really successful with crowds.
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Where did all the locals that grew up in Macarthur supporting Wests Tigers move to? From my experience my mates and I have all bought or built around here.
People are buying out here because it is one of the more affordable places in Sydney. Contrary to what many people think it has been a fantastic place to grow up in that is also Rugby league mad
 
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cktiger said:
Campbelltown Stadium gets almost as many excuses for not performing as Luke Brooks.
You would think the few games there would draw good crowds, at least from local supporters, but they don't.
Having more games there would thin the herd out even more.
It's just not a desirable destination for most other supporters - as well as plenty of Tigers fans from elsewhere in the city.
Just my opinion... not putting hate on the place.
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Not arguing with you, but I can't put my finger on why Campbelltown can't draw crowds other than, of course, our poor performance. I find it an easy ground to get to by car, parking is also plentiful and close to the ground. There is also train station handy. There is also a club right next to the ground to cater for those looking for something to do pre and post game.
 
Guys do you think crowd capacity means anything these days for suburban home games? It's a tv sport, that's where the money/sponsors are at.
I'd watch the tigers play in a local park, Lidcombe Oval/LO just make sure it has a new dunny. 🌝
 
Kearnsy said:
Where did all the locals that grew up in Macarthur supporting Wests Tigers move to? From my experience my mates and I have all bought or built around here.
People are buying out here because it is one of the more affordable places in Sydney. Contrary to what many people think it has been a fantastic place to grow up in that is also Rugby league mad
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half of the wests tigers supporters probably live in Ryde and homebush area anyway.
I know plenty of people moved out Macarthur way as housing was affordable which is great but previous ties to other teams Dragons dogs souths etc
big risk putting all our eggs into Macarthur basket full time, never worked for Magpies
 
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