Russian invasion of Ukraine

Hmmmm🤔
You’re right, they formally retired didn’t they.
My bad.
Everything is as it seems (reported), Western Governments love their citizens and would never employ deceptive political tactics as a distraction to achieving anything that we might not agree with.
I mean it’s never happened before so I don’t know what I was thinking?
 
leichhardtjunior said:
Hmmmm🤔
You’re right, they formally retired didn’t they.
My bad.
Everything is as it seems (reported), Western Governments love their citizens and would never employ deceptive political tactics as a distraction to achieving anything that we might not agree with.
I mean it’s never happened before so I don’t know what I was thinking?
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Maybe you should reflect on the fact that you don't like democracy because you have fringe views. Those "sheep" that get vaccinated and want others to do the same? That's the majority. That's who votes. You don't get what you want because other people don't agree with you.
You are also just making random points that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic and have nothing to do with any statements I've made. I never said:
- Western governments love their citizens; or
- Western governments would never employ deceptive political tactics as a distraction.
That's just straight up strawman on your part.
 
Earl said:
Some people today appear to lose all perspective. Something clearly wrong becomes something else entirely.

Putin is a dictator who has invaded a country and people are dying without a good reason. That is the issue and people playing point scoring games trying to blame whoever they don't like at this point in time should have a good look at themselves.

If it was your family dying I wonder if the point scoring nonsense would continue.

I think war should be televised. People should realize war is barbaric.
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Hey Earl.I have a question for you...have you got the proof that Putin is invading Ukraine to kill innocent men women and children in the name of just having a war or is he cleaning the place of corrupt authoritarian Kazarian mafia that has done more damage to the people over the years with the help of Biden,Obama and Clintons than Putin ever will ?? MSM certainly gets into many peoples minds.....
 
Maybe you should reflect on the fact that you don't like democracy because you have fringe views. Those "sheep" that get vaccinated and want others to do the same? That's the majority. That's who votes. You don't get what you want because other people don't agree with you.
Nelson said:
You are also just making random points that have absolutely nothing to do with the topic and have nothing to do with any statements I've made. I never said:
- Western governments love their citizens; or
- Western governments would never employ deceptive political tactics as a distraction.
That's just straight up strawman on your part.
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Nothing political is random. The ‘sheep’ just prefer to view things from their herds perspective. It’s nice and comfortable to pigeonhole and compartmentalise issues to suit our views isn’t it. Majorities are often proven wrong and ‘democracies’ are exposed as less than that which they claim to be in the process.
How’s the whole vaccination / pandemic agenda looking from your democratic perspective at this point?
Personally I’m an advocate of true democracy, but I’m not gullible enough to believe that’s the reality we have.
Interestingly (to some) the US have up to 15 bio labs in Ukrain. Meaning they are ‘studying’ deadly pathogens at the Russian border.
I’m assuming you remember the whole ‘Wuhan’ thing?
But yeah, I guess I’m off topic again, right?
 
TrueTiger said:
Hey Earl.I have a question for you...have you got the proof that Putin is invading Ukraine to kill innocent men women and children in the name of just having a war or is he cleaning the place of corrupt authoritarian Kazarian mafia that has done more damage to the people over the years with the help of Biden,Obama and Clintons than Putin ever will ?? MSM certainly gets into many peoples minds.....
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There is zero justification for this invasion. Zero. And all the cooker, sovcit nutter talk in the world won’t change it.
 
TrueTiger said:
Hey Earl.I have a question for you...have you got the proof that Putin is invading Ukraine to kill innocent men women and children in the name of just having a war or is he cleaning the place of corrupt authoritarian Kazarian mafia that has done more damage to the people over the years with the help of Biden,Obama and Clintons than Putin ever will ?? MSM certainly gets into many peoples minds.....
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Seriously give those conspiracy websites a miss, it is damaging you as a person
 
TrueTiger said:
Hey Earl.I have a question for you...have you got the proof that Putin is invading Ukraine to kill innocent men women and children in the name of just having a war or is he cleaning the place of corrupt authoritarian Kazarian mafia that has done more damage to the people over the years with the help of Biden,Obama and Clintons than Putin ever will ?? MSM certainly gets into many peoples minds.....
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Yes because I'm sure you have lots of evidence
leichhardtjunior said:
Maybe you should reflect on the fact that you don't like democracy because you have fringe views. Those "sheep" that get vaccinated and want others to do the same? That's the majority. That's who votes. You don't get what you want because other people don't agree with you.

Nothing political is random. The ‘sheep’ just prefer to view things from their herds perspective. It’s nice and comfortable to pigeonhole and compartmentalise issues to suit our views isn’t it. Majorities are often proven wrong and ‘democracies’ are exposed as less than that which they claim to be in the process.
How’s the whole vaccination / pandemic agenda looking from your democratic perspective at this point?
Personally I’m an advocate of true democracy, but I’m not gullible enough to believe that’s the reality we have.
Interestingly (to some) the US have up to 15 bio labs in Ukrain. Meaning they are ‘studying’ deadly pathogens at the Russian border.
I’m assuming you remember the whole ‘Wuhan’ thing?
But yeah, I guess I’m off topic again, right?
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Yes, you are incapable of having a focused argument without resorting to various combinations of whataboutism, strawmanning and appeals to ignorance. That's probably because that's the type of fallacious logic that underpins many of the websites that you use to inform yourself.
 
Nelson said:
Yes because I'm sure you have lots of evidence

Yes, you are incapable of having a focused argument without resorting to various combinations of whataboutism, strawmanning and appeals to ignorance. That's probably because that's the type of fallacious logic that underpins many of the websites that you use to inform yourself.
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Do you or Earl....or just the corrupt MSM who are owned by the very people who are trying to dominate the globe with Vax passports,restrictions and other controlling steps,such as Trudeau freezing innocent peaceful protesters bank accounts because he can or getting the UN goons in to beat the people so they will leave...
 
TrueTiger said:
Do you or Earl....or just the corrupt MSM who are owned by the very people who are trying to dominate the globe with Vax passports,restrictions and other controlling steps,such as Trudeau freezing innocent peaceful protesters bank accounts because he can or getting the UN goons in to beat the people so they will leave...
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Well I suppose I also do not have evidence that Putin is not a disguised Alf from the planet Melmac who is attempting to take over the Ukraine in order to consume its cat population, so I guess that's an equally credible theory.
 
Nelson said:
Yes because I'm sure you have lots of evidence

Yes, you are incapable of having a focused argument without resorting to various combinations of whataboutism, strawmanning and appeals to ignorance. That's probably because that's the type of fallacious logic that underpins many of the websites that you use to inform yourself.
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Good boy. Solid herd 101 deflection. Great use of buzzwords, although you missed a few.
You, Earl.gov and the conformist majority have found your safe little place where you can all encourage and reassure yourselves.
Probably go get a top up jab just to be extra protected against whatever the ‘bad guys’ come up with next though.
😂😂😂
 
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TrueTiger said:
We will see....Im by no means a damaged person....I have a freedom of speach and opinion...the question was at Earl...
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Here's a question for you TT. How would you know you're wrong?

For me, I disagree with you, but if I saw a mass of Ukrainians take up arms against their army, government and neighbours I would support their will and change my view. And I don't need the abc or other media, lots of social media coverage of the war by ppl on the ground showing clearly that the vast majority are suffering through a foreign invasion. Not to mention the dead Russian soldiers too.

What metric or evidence would change your mind? Are you even open to the possibility you are wrong?
 
TrueTiger said:
Hey Earl.I have a question for you...have you got the proof that Putin is invading Ukraine to kill innocent men women and children in the name of just having a war or is he cleaning the place of corrupt authoritarian Kazarian mafia that has done more damage to the people over the years with the help of Biden,Obama and Clintons than Putin ever will ?? MSM certainly gets into many peoples minds.....
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'Kazarian mafia' is code for 'the Jews'. One minute the invasion is justified because of 'Nazis', the next minute it's justified because of evil Jews lol, Putin must be quite the bipolar.
 
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