Russian invasion of Ukraine

Tiger5150 said:
Even your own land? The Ukrainians should invite Russia in?



Video of a friendly Russian soldier attempting to liberate an elderly Ukrainian and reduce corruption

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Fake... It's all fake
Don't like it... It's fake

Like a 5yo with his fingers in his ears screaming waaaah waaah waaah... It's all MSM and big pharma blah blah off with the fairies
 
Tiger5150 said:
A Ukraine transport? Dig out the longer version of the video, the tank backs over the car again to finish the job......

Crisis actors? You keep chasing the white rabbit, Im done with you.
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No worries mate...God bless ..I do always enjoy your knowledgable input,sometimes all isnt what it seems...
 
TrueTiger said:
Fake news ...it was a Ukraine transport and the "crises actors were called in ...the guy in the car could have climbed out with all the guys around him to help...instead they tried to cut the door off ,,hahah..pick the guy up and lift him out...
Heres another one for you ...

A reporter for CNN,by the name of Bernie Gores was "executed in Afganistan in 2019,our hearts go out to Bernie and his family...

Low and behold the "first American casualty of the Ukraine conflict is none other than Bernie Gores"our hearts go out to Bernie and his family...he was a respected CNN reporter....

could someone tell me how he could die in 2019 and then arise again to be killed in Ukraine...

wake up...dont believe all you hear and keep an open mind...their playing with peoples minds...
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Fake news, don't believe all you read

www.factcheck.org

Bogus Tweet Spreads False Account of 'First American Casualty' in Ukraine - FactCheck.org

“Bernie Gores” was not killed in Afghanistan in August, and he wasn’t the “first American casualty of the Ukraine crisis.” He doesn’t exist. But Facebook users were faked out by fabricated tweets that purport to show CNN announcing the death of the same man twice in six months. The photo of...
www.factcheck.org www.factcheck.org
 
Tiger5150 said:
Actually you deflected mine. Is the fact that Ukraine govt is corrupt sufficient justification for full scale military attack on a sovereign nation?

Certainly not.

Its a hypothetical. I gave actual examples.
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Well I can't say the I'm a believer of the Wests altruism in going into bat for Ukraine.
 
Magpie_Magic said:
The Russians have begun seizing assets belonging to western corporations and funds including Australia's future fund to recover the money they have had seized.

Regarding getting Russia to back off no one can be 100% sure but as a keen student and follower of history and affairs especially in that part of the world my feeling is either the US backs off, Russia wins a negotiated peace or we get WW3. I'm sure the west has their advisors with their PhDs etc but either they are giving bad advise or the recipients of the advice desire that outcome.


Yes, the spectre of cyber or nuclear attack. And can our allies defend us. No.


Did notice a slight change of tonality from scotmo today. Perhaps they were briefed that one of the 22 Russian nuclear subs based in the Pacific, similar to the 8 we are getting built in 20 years time is lurking under the waves close by.

And like most things in Australia the change of tonality was bipartisan.
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Well the negotiations have started so it mite be over in a few hours
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Well I can't say the I'm a believer of the Wests altruism in going into bat for Ukraine.
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Ok you are not going to answer, thats cool.

Of course the west might not be needed to "go into bat" if Russian missiles werent raining on Kiev.
 
Tiger5150 said:
Ok you are not going to answer, thats cool.

Of course the west might not be needed to "go into bat" if Russian missiles werent raining on Kiev.
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Tiger 5150...
I watched a survielence camera of Kiev this morning through a security system in the middle of Kiev..it showed people shopping,driving,no smoke or building damage...

Hate him or like him Putin said that no innocent citizens of Ukraine will be hurt or killed..if there is deaths the neonazi slime would be the culprits as they have been since Soros and co have been in the place...
I dont want to have a fight with you as I respect you as a person and fellow forum member...all I can say is that is whats happening over there isnt always what it seems or is reported...cheers mate...
 
TrueTiger said:
Tiger 5150...
I watched a survielence camera of Kiev this morning through a security system in the middle of Kiev..it showed people shopping,driving,no smoke or building damage...

Hate him or like him Putin said that no innocent citizens of Ukraine will be hurt or killed..if there is deaths the neonazi slime would be the culprits as they have been since Soros and co have been in the place...
I dont want to have a fight with you as I respect you as a person and fellow forum member...all I can say is that is whats happening over there isnt always what it seems or is reported...cheers mate...
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Seriously that is absolute hogwash.
 
TrueTiger said:
The real problem that some people cant see clearly is that NATO is the problem in Ukraine and Biden and the other political scum have interests in the place..Soros and his neo nazi players are all right in the middle of this squabble...Putin has stated he doesnt want to hurt the people of Ukraine,he wants them to be free and free of the corruption within the place...in reallity the people have been treated poorly for years while Soros and co have made millions from the country..hence the interest in Ukraine by the Clintons,Soros,Obamma,Kerry etc...

Biden went as far as giving China the intelligence on what Russia was going to do in Ukraine to get them onside....what did XiPing do ...he gave the intel to Russia...

As I said before,there is so much more to this so called "invasion" that meets the eye..
Lets see what comes out of this and keep an open mind...

Theres always 3 sides to a story....

1.the narrative..
2.the counter narrative..
3.the truth..
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Totally agree, as always the western media is predictably biased and corrupted to push the same old anti Putln / Russia agenda.
Associated Presses were exposed this morning for passing off old footage of Palestine bombing Israel as Russian attacks.
Putin and Russia stand against the progression of the NWO.
Russia does not have a Centralised Bank that is owned by the Rothschild family / ‘City of London’.
Russia does not play ball with the Freemason Society.
Putin is not a Freemason and can’t be controlled by the globalist cabal that’s run by Klaus Shwab, Rothschild family, Rockerfella family, Chase family, Russell family etc, and all of their corrupted political families.
Every country that rejects adopting a Rothschild run Centralised Banking system is the target of western media & military attention.
That’s why ‘we the west’ are always at war with Russia.
Coincidentally another recent president who refused to be corrupted and controlled by the NWO was Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon.
Coincidentally Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon and Putin didn’t have a problem?
Which is why they stole the election in 2020 and put their puppet in Biden back in office.
Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon is the only US president that didn’t lead them into war all the way back to Carter, why?
It’s because the US has been used as a war machine at every opportunity since it’s inception for the profiteers of Europe (‘City of London’ & their affiliates), who as TT has pointed out are all involved in Ukrainian corruption up to their teeth.
And IMO that’s who Putins trying to clean out.

As is always the case, it’s the innocent public who pay the ultimate price in the war games of the elite.
 
TrueTiger said:
Nice reply...I never said I supported Putin....do your homework about the corruption within Ukraine and the people I mentioned....
then come back with an adult conversation...
I did say in an earlier post that there is more to this scenario than any of us could know its not all BLACK and WHITE....
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Define corruption in politics. It’s worldwide but Communist and Autocratic governments have it sown up when you talk about black economies, corrupt elections and having to be a card carrying party member before you get a fair go at living a decent life.

Ukraine was not to date accepted into EU or NATO because they were still in early stage of converting to acceptable democratic standards. But they were on their way to getting there Just like so many borderline former Eastern European countries before them.
But to condone Russian invasion on basis of half truths and hearsay Tump inspired halfwits …….
Just take a year off get a visa and go and live in Russia and then we’ll see what your little essays will say.
You just don’t have any idea what you’re talking about.
 
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jadtiger said:
Seriously that is absolute hogwash.
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Seriously Jad,I enjoy your input but dont dispute something I posted from a friend in UK...he owns a sec co and I tried to share something with you so you guys would keep an open mind...obviously you are all for the MSM...
I will say it again ,all isnt as it seems in Ukraine...we the people are being played by the elites....they are trying to get into your minds and emotions...I dont know what Putin is trying to do,but I do know he doesnt want to kill innocent men,women and children of Ukraine...he is trying to get rid of the corruption and free the people from the crap they have copped for years...
I dont care if you believe me or not ...I at least respect your thoughts and opinions,it would be nice if you reciprocated....
 
TrueTiger said:
Tiger 5150...
I watched a survielence camera of Kiev this morning through a security system in the middle of Kiev..it showed people shopping,driving,no smoke or building damage...

Hate him or like him Putin said that no innocent citizens of Ukraine will be hurt or killed..if there is deaths the neonazi slime would be the culprits as they have been since Soros and co have been in the place...
I dont want to have a fight with you as I respect you as a person and fellow forum member...all I can say is that is whats happening over there isnt always what it seems or is reported...cheers mate...
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Yes the in-laws are allowed out to shop and only thing in the shop was vodka chocolate and cheese bacon

But everyone was allowed to go to the shops today

Many buildings in Kiev are rubble
Kiev has been bombarded with missiles

My in-laws are sleeping in the bottom of the building with everyone else scared to death
 
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