Russian invasion of Ukraine

Cultured_Bogan said:
I'm glad those "nazi" children were taken out by the Russian missiles. There's always collateral damage in war. Innocent people always die in war.

Soros is Jewish yet he's heading up a neo Nazi cabal and somehow the country with all their neo Nazis managed elect a Jewish president. Do you proofread the bullshit you write or is it just cut, copy and pasted from the crank websites you visit because if you were proofreading it you'd pick up on the two major inconsistencies right there.
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You seem so confident CB...and I dont like to be disrespectful to you,but you were to me,you seem to be brainwashed as well....Soros is poison,do some research mate and dont denigrade me unless you can tell me that the corruption in Ukraine hasnt got worse since he got in there in 2012...funny thing how Zelensky is an actor and created a show about being the pres of Ukraine and his mate Soros all of a sudden put him in the Govt....wake up mate...
 
Odessa said:
I understand the corruption is bad but that's no reason for innocent people to die
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Yes your right Odessa,but the innocent that die are sometimes blamed on the wrong people...search Donbass in Ukraine and what the people there think of Putin....you and others may be surprised...
 
TrueTiger said:
You seem so confident CB...and I dont like to be disrespectful to you,but you were to me,you seem to be brainwashed as well....Soros is poison,do some research mate and dont denigrade me unless you can tell me that the corruption in Ukraine hasnt got worse since he got in there in 2012...funny thing how Zelensky is an actor and created a show about being the pres of Ukraine and his mate Soros all of a sudden put him in the Govt....wake up mate...
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I know Soros isn't a fantastic human being. Go back to basic comprehension. You do realise the plot fault with a Jewish guy supporting a neo Nazi cabal and said country which is purported to be thick with neo Nazis democratically elected a Jew to the post of president. You can't see the holes in your logic?

Your problem is you do too much "research." I suspect you have way too much time on your hands.

Ukraine is not without its problems. In no case does it warrant the Russians invading a sovereign nation. Same as the US with Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq especially because the Yanks fabricated bullshit reasons to go in there and depose Hussein.
 
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TrueTiger said:
Not devestated CB...you seem to be educated,but do you honestly think the Ukraine army and some untrained civilians would be a threat to Russia....fair dinkum...you been on the coolaid....
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The most sophisticated military machine in the world were beaten by rice farmers in the sixties and seventies who had a little help with arms. It's definitely achievable.
 
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Cultured_Bogan said:
I know Soros isn't a fantastic human being. Go back to basic comprehension. You do realise the plot fault with a Jewish guy supporting a neo Nazi cabal and said country which is purported to be thick with neo Nazis democratically elected a Jew to the post of president. You can't see the holes in your logic?

Your problem is you do too much "research."

Ukraine is not without its problems. In no case does it warrant the Russians invading a sovereign nation. Same as the US with Afghanistan and Iraq. Iraq especially because the Yanks fabricated bullshit reasons to go in there and depose Hussein.
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Mate I dont want to argue with you I respect you to much for when I went through tough times...All Im saying is that the Ukraine with Soros,Clintons,Obamma and Bidens all involved with money laundering ,human trafficking drug deals and weapon supplies,anything can happen,money,greed and power changes everything...just keep an open mind...
I will tell you as I have others,I dont support Putin,but he went into Ukraine to.. rid it of the corruption there,he doesnt want to hurt the people or the army,if anything he will try and de-nazify and de-militarise the place and free the people...i will stick with what Im saying irrespective if others want to name call me or disagree...its good to get everybodies perspective and still remain decent human beings,otherwise we lower ourselves to the lowlifes that cause other people grief and sadness...
 
Viking Warrior said:
Seems they are holding there own, not the easy push over Russia thought they were going to be.
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Can you not understand,if Russia was fairdinkum with the forces at their disposal,they would flatten Ukraine in a day...
Putin doesnt want to hurt the citizens he wants to free the people of the corruption there....there is more to this than just bombing cities and destruction..that is not the end game,there is more to it than it seems...keep an open mind...
 
TrueTiger said:
Yes your right Odessa,but the innocent that die are sometimes blamed on the wrong people...search Donbass in Ukraine and what the people there think of Putin....you and others may be surprised...
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Then you go into Viktor Yanukovych territory and that's another story

But my wife's dad is from Donbass and he was at Chernobyl the dad it went up long with her mother and mate the stories I have been told at Chernobyl first hand crazy
 
TrueTiger said:
Mate I dont want to argue with you I respect you to much for when I went through tough times...All Im saying is that the Ukraine with Soros,Clintons,Obamma and Bidens all involved with money laundering ,human trafficking drug deals and weapon supplies,anything can happen,money,greed and power changes everything...just keep an open mind...
I will tell you as I have others,I dont support Putin,but he went into Ukraine to.. rid it of the corruption there,he doesnt want to hurt the people or the army,if anything he will try and de-nazify and de-militarise the place and free the people...i will stick with what Im saying irrespective if others want to name call me or disagree...its good to get everybodies perspective and still remain decent human beings,otherwise we lower ourselves to the lowlifes that cause other people grief and sadness...
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Russia going into the Ukraine to rid them of corruption is a laugh. Russia is at every level one of the most corrupt nations on the planet.

It'd be like a Brit lecturing the French on racism.
 
This is so sad the message on the phone it breaks my heart you should get someone to translate it
 

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Odessa said:
Then you go into Viktor Yanukovych territory and that's another story

But my wife's dad is from Donbass and he was at Chernobyl the dad it went up long with her mother and mate the stories I have been told at Chernobyl first hand crazy
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Ask yourself why has Putin got so many soldiers in Chernobyl as soon as he got there...would it have something to do with nuclear power and a threat of it being resurfaced...not sure but there must be a reason...
 
Magpie_Magic said:
Agree with this. But the yanks had no sanctions applied to them or mention of criminality. I guess if someone did the US would've declared war.

But considering this why is the west escalating with previously hitherto never applied sanctions . It's not proportionate and seems extreme against another superpower where things could go pear shape.

Russia is unlikely to back down unless they win a negotiated peace. Why go so extreme and risk all?
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The yanks didn't have sanctions because the majority of the West backed them, including some middle eastern nations. Any sort of sanctions would have been unilateral and not as far reaching.

I'm against imperialism of any nature.
 
Cultured_Bogan said:
Russia going into the Ukraine to rid them of corruption is a laugh. Russia is at every level one of the most corrupt nations on the planet.

It'd be like a Brit lecturing the French on racism.
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Ok CB I will leave it at that...you know far more than I do....I dont think Putin is a filthy corrupt leader that others have been there,he has been in power for 20 years and the population seem to think he is great,but Im not there so I dont know...
 
The phone message is a boy talking with his mum about being lied about going on a training exercise and ended up in Ukraine and shooting anyone and everyone all civilians and running over people and being scared
 
Magpie_Magic said:
The Russians have begun seizing assets belonging to western corporations and funds including Australia's future fund to recover the money they have had seized.

Regarding getting Russia to back off no one can be 100% sure but as a keen student and follower of history and affairs especially in that part of the world my feeling is either the US backs off, Russia wins a negotiated peace or we get WW3. I'm sure the west has their advisors with their PhDs etc but either they are giving bad advise or the recipients of the advice desire that outcome.


Yes, the spectre of cyber or nuclear attack. And can our allies defend us. No.


Did notice a slight change of tonality from scotmo today. Perhaps they were briefed that one of the 22 Russian nuclear subs based in the Pacific, similar to the 8 we are getting built in 20 years time is lurking under the waves close by.

And like most things in Australia the change of tonality was bipartisan.
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I haven't caught any domestic news other than the flooding as yet, though might catch a bit later.
 
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