Russian invasion of Ukraine

Putin may win this armed conflict if:
1) He commits to house to house fight, he has to be prepared to heavy casualties, or he may use Chechens, Syrians etc. as the cannon fodder ;
2) He disregards the Geneva convention and indiscriminately uses weapons of the mass destruction on populated areas - e.g. thermobaric bombs, and destroys cities, and kills civilians on mass. He may use the old Roman "destroy completely a smaller village, the larger one will surrender"

3) combination of 1) and 2)
I can see your way of thinking,but I dont think it will come to the mass destruction that it appears could be....the Ukranian Military is way out numbered by the Russian forces..
I see it more as a capitulation from their military....
Its was interesting to note,just on a different tangent for the minute...Nato has been mentioned on here heaps...I did a little research and found that it was formed after ww2 it grew bigger when the Warsaw pact was created...the Warsaw Pact was disassembled after talks with the powers that be and Nato also would be,however the Nato forces only got bigger and didnt do as they promised and also disassemble..
Theres probably much more to it than that and I will do more research...
 
No argument from me. I would think all of those wars included war crimes as well as the current Ukrainian conflict.

Genocide is a VERY different thing and relatively rare. Examples off the top of my head, Hitler WW2, Serbs in Bosnia, Rwanda, Serbs in Kosovo, China with Uyghurs.

Yemen, Darfur, Greek genocide (including the Pontic genocide), Croatian Uštase camps against the Jews, Serbs & gypsies under the blessings of Pope Pius XII at Jasenovac, Armenian genocide, Assyrians, the genocide in Queensland against 10,000 indigenous, Vietnam, Congo, Pol Pot, we can go on and on .. But these are non-events apparently as they don't fit the narrative ..
 
Yemen, Darfur, Greek genocide (including the Pontic genocide), Croatian Uštase camps against the Jews, Serbs & gypsies under the blessings of Pope Pius XII at Jasenovac, Armenian genocide, Assyrians, the genocide in Queensland against 10,000 indigenous, Vietnam, Congo, Pol Pot, we can go on and on .. But these are non-events apparently as they don't fit the narrative ..

What narrative do they not fit? I would agree with you that most of them are genuine cases of genocide.......your point?
 
Have a look back in history and see who benefitted most from those conflicts....
The Central banks that are in nearly every country and are owned by the same people...
The Vatican,Fed Res,The Royals(city of London)...
If there was a war between say Germany v USA,the fed would finance the US and the Central bank in Germany would finance them...Im not going to have an all out argument about the whole banking system,but they are all Rothchild/Rockerfeller owned and others ...so it doesnt matter who won or lost the same banks were backing both sides of the conflict...
I dont know who is making the money from Russ/Ukr conflict except for the corrupt neo nazis who are funded by G.Soros and co...
TT Im not going to fall into your Rothchild conspiracy. By the way it is one of the oldest conspiracies in the world and it merely a modern, slightly polite version of the old "the jew run it all". Its a very anti semetic trope but, you do you.

The question was what started the first Iraqi war, the answer isnt the Rothchilds, it also isnt the US. The answer is Saddam Hussain invading Kuwait. Nothing about the jews/Rothchilds. ITs a simple story.

Its also very interesting to note that Putin got rid of all Rothchild owned banks in Russia...

Name them.
I also read today on a US news site that Russ/Ukr were neg a humanitarian corridor so that civillians can move out of the areas Russ has specifically targetted and Russian soldiers were giving out food to the civillians.


Yep and the Russians bombed the humanitarian corridors.

..so as far as killing civillians and flattening cities may not be quite true,but MSM would have you believe...

How do you explain this TT? CGI? Crisis actors?

 
I can see your way of thinking,but I dont think it will come to the mass destruction that it appears could be....the Ukranian Military is way out numbered by the Russian forces..

Are you kidding? Do you not see what is going on over there?

I see it more as a capitulation from their military....

The Ukranian army and civilians are braver and tougher than you or I will ever be. Out manned, out gunned and they have continually pushed the Russians back and now the Russians have resorted to heavy artillery against the cities. One thing you will notice in all the photos of mass crowds of refugees from Ukraine. 95% women and kids. The men have stayed to fight and more power to them.

Its was interesting to note,just on a different tangent for the minute...Nato has been mentioned on here heaps...I did a little research and found that it was formed after ww2 it grew bigger when the Warsaw pact was created...the Warsaw Pact was disassembled after talks with the powers that be and Nato also would be,however the Nato forces only got bigger and didnt do as they promised and also disassemble..
Theres probably much more to it than that and I will do more research...

You need to do a LOT more research, You are simply wrong. NATO did not get bigger when the Warsaw Pact was created. It got bigger after the Warsaw pact and the soviet union disintegrated (years later).
 
Are you kidding? Do you not see what is going on over there?



The Ukranian army and civilians are braver and tougher than you or I will ever be. Out manned, out gunned and they have continually pushed the Russians back and now the Russians have resorted to heavy artillery against the cities. One thing you will notice in all the photos of mass crowds of refugees from Ukraine. 95% women and kids. The men have stayed to fight and more power to them.



You need to do a LOT more research, You are simply wrong. NATO did not get bigger when the Warsaw Pact was created. It got bigger after the Warsaw pact and the soviet union disintegrated (years later).
Also many of the countries who joined NATO are ex Warsaw Pact members,its not hard to work out why they felt the need to protect themselves against a country that has a record in suppressing other countries
 
Are you kidding? Do you not see what is going on over there?



The Ukranian army and civilians are braver and tougher than you or I will ever be. Out manned, out gunned and they have continually pushed the Russians back and now the Russians have resorted to heavy artillery against the cities. One thing you will notice in all the photos of mass crowds of refugees from Ukraine. 95% women and kids. The men have stayed to fight and more power to them.



You need to do a LOT more research, You are simply wrong. NATO did not get bigger when the Warsaw Pact was created. It got bigger after the Warsaw pact and the soviet union disintegrated (years later).

Are you kidding? Do you not see what is going on over there?



The Ukranian army and civilians are braver and tougher than you or I will ever be. Out manned, out gunned and they have continually pushed the Russians back and now the Russians have resorted to heavy artillery against the cities. One thing you will notice in all the photos of mass crowds of refugees from Ukraine. 95% women and kids. The men have stayed to fight and more power to them.



You need to do a LOT more research, You are simply wrong. NATO did not get bigger when the Warsaw Pact was created. It got bigger after the Warsaw pact and the soviet union disintegrated (years later)/
5150 you keep being the king of knowledge on just about every topic that comes up..I dont see what you see because heaps of garbage has been shown through MSM and people like you swear by it...

Question for you mate ...are you over there and in the heart of things like the civillians that have praised the Russian army for giving them food and getting rid of the neo nazi scum that have ridiculed the people of Ukraine since 2014...but you keep trying to bellittle me for my input...Rothchilds,Rockerfellers,Soros,Swabb,Biden,Pellosi,Kerry are all scum that have drained Ukraine,raped kids,killed their own people...
But you keep playing me as a Putin supporter...the truth will be known after this conflict....I only need to do my own research,you do yours ...If you dont like what I have to say DONT READ IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IM WRONG...as I said ARE YOU THERE AND SEEING WHATS HAPPENING OR ARE YOU GETTING YOUR BUTT FILLED WITH THE MIGHTY MSM....



Read the 7th March update......
 
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Question for you mate

Ill answer yours, you answer mine..
...are you over there and in the heart of things like the civillians that have praised the Russian army for giving them food and getting rid of the neo nazi scum that have ridiculed the people of Ukraine since 2014..
I am not over there, however I have many family and friends in an adjoining country. They are telling me of the tens of thousands of Ukrainian refugees that are sleeping in railways stations because the government there cant house them all. No doubt they are all crisis actors I guess.

Now I have two questions for you...

firstly.....if all the civilians are praising the Russian army, for getting rid of the nazi scum....how come the Russians havent been invited into Kienv and Kharkiv already. Kharkiv has the highest ethnic Russian population and has fought brutally and managed to keep the Russians out.

Second question....that video I posted above of the devestation in Borodyanka, filmed by Reuters and broadcast by the BBC. WHat is your explanation for that? Is it your contention that that is fake?

.but you keep trying to bellittle me for my input...Rothchilds,Rockerfellers,Soros,Swabb,Biden,Pellosi,Kerry are all scum that have drained Ukraine,raped kids,killed their own people...

Ok slow down. Jow Biden has raped kids? Nancy Pellosi has raped kids? John Kerry? Seems a big call.
But you keep playing me as a Putin supporter

I dont think you are a Putin supporter. I think you have been deranged by too much time chasing the white rabbit. I might be wrong, I hope I am for your sake. I have no ill will to you.
...the truth will be known after this conflict....I only need to do my own research,you do yours ...If you dont like what I have to say DONT READ IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IM WRONG...as I said ARE YOU THERE AND SEEING WHATS HAPPENING OR ARE YOU GETTING YOUR BUTT FILLED WITH THE MIGHTY MSM....

Getting a little personal there TT. I suggest you take a break, you seem pretty emotional. I have a great many friends and family within a few hundred K of the fighting. Their accounts including the torrent of refugees, backs pretty much what I am seeing with my own eyes from reasonably reputable sources. Occams razor, Im pretty comfortable with my take on things.

Your chance though. Point us to the videos of Ukrainian civilians welcoming their new Russian overlords.
 
Ill answer yours, you answer mine..

I am not over there, however I have many family and friends in an adjoining country. They are telling me of the tens of thousands of Ukrainian refugees that are sleeping in railways stations because the government there cant house them all. No doubt they are all crisis actors I guess.

Now I have two questions for you...

firstly.....if all the civilians are praising the Russian army, for getting rid of the nazi scum....how come the Russians havent been invited into Kienv and Kharkiv already. Kharkiv has the highest ethnic Russian population and has fought brutally and managed to keep the Russians out.

Second question....that video I posted above of the devestation in Borodyanka, filmed by Reuters and broadcast by the BBC. WHat is your explanation for that? Is it your contention that that is fake?



Ok slow down. Jow Biden has raped kids? Nancy Pellosi has raped kids? John Kerry? Seems a big call.


I dont think you are a Putin supporter. I think you have been deranged by too much time chasing the white rabbit. I might be wrong, I hope I am for your sake. I have no ill will to you.


Getting a little personal there TT. I suggest you take a break, you seem pretty emotional. I have a great many friends and family within a few hundred K of the fighting. Their accounts including the torrent of refugees, backs pretty much what I am seeing with my own eyes from reasonably reputable sources. Occams razor, Im pretty comfortable with my take on things.

Your chance though. Point us to the videos of Ukrainian civilians welcoming their new Russian overlords.
check my latest post...
 
check my latest post...
Righto mate. LEts get real. You and I have had this back and forth for a few days in this thread. Every time I will address your points that yo umake with actual facts backed up. On EVERY single occassion you ignore them and just make another far fetched claim bereft of facts or evidence.

Thats cool....you are doing you...hard and fast.

You asked me to answer a question, I did. You ignored it.

I asked you two questions, you ignored it again and deflect again.

You are entitled to your opinion no matter how much I disagree with it or think its based in centruries old anti-semetic tropes, but your continual ignorance, deflection and refusal to address factual points shows you arent discussing in good faith. Again, thats cool but Im not playing your game.

Feel free to spout your baseless conspiratorial POV in the face of a wave of obvious factual evidence of the opposite of what you are saying. The cognitive dissonance is deafening. Knock yourself out.
 
Righto mate. LEts get real. You and I have had this back and forth for a few days in this thread. Every time I will address your points that yo umake with actual facts backed up. On EVERY single occassion you ignore them and just make another far fetched claim bereft of facts or evidence.

Thats cool....you are doing you...hard and fast.

You asked me to answer a question, I did. You ignored it.

I asked you two questions, you ignored it again and deflect again.

You are entitled to your opinion no matter how much I disagree with it or think its based in centruries old anti-semetic tropes, but your continual ignorance, deflection and refusal to address factual points shows you arent discussing in good faith. Again, thats cool but Im not playing your game.

Feel free to spout your baseless conspiratorial POV in the face of a wave of obvious factual evidence of the opposite of what you are saying. The cognitive dissonance is deafening. Knock yourself out.
Did you click on the site in my last post...go back and click on the Home restored republic....Mar 7th and 6th updates may answer you questions about my posts....
Mar 7th is about 22mins and 6th is about 18 mins....
 
5150 you keep being the king of knowledge on just about every topic that comes up..I dont see what you see because heaps of garbage has been shown through MSM and people like you swear by it...

Question for you mate ...are you over there and in the heart of things like the civillians that have praised the Russian army for giving them food and getting rid of the neo nazi scum that have ridiculed the people of Ukraine since 2014...but you keep trying to bellittle me for my input...Rothchilds,Rockerfellers,Soros,Swabb,Biden,Pellosi,Kerry are all scum that have drained Ukraine,raped kids,killed their own people...
But you keep playing me as a Putin supporter...the truth will be known after this conflict....I only need to do my own research,you do yours ...If you dont like what I have to say DONT READ IT BECAUSE YOU THINK IM WRONG...as I said ARE YOU THERE AND SEEING WHATS HAPPENING OR ARE YOU GETTING YOUR BUTT FILLED WITH THE MIGHTY MSM....



Read the 7th March update......

JEEEEEEZUUUSS CHRIST TT.

This is getting serious. You need to step away. This stuff is hurting you. Firstly that website is so ridiculous that it is one of two things. A troll parody or more likely a Russian bot farm. You love to google. Google Russian Hybrid Warfare. They literally brag about creating websites like this to spread misinformation. Why do you think it is a computer generated voice reading the script?

Did you even listen to what they said? Putin is stopping sex trafficking in Ukraine?

They finally switched to the GCR reset and switched to a gold backed currency where all countries are now 1:1. Does that actually make sense to you? How do you explain the fact that global markets continued on as normal today and it still will cost me AUD$1.40 to by US$1 or Ru140 to buy US$1?

It goes on to claim that the Pfizer vaccine kills one in 17 with the first jab and this increases with second and third jabs. Seriously TT, do you know 17 people who are vaccinated?

I have gone from disagreeing with you about this stuff, trying to not argue with you, to being genuinely concerned about you. That site and that video are not real, I dont even think they are trying to be real.

Look after yourself mate, seriously. Get away from it.
 
JEEEEEEZUUUSS CHRIST TT.

This is getting serious. You need to step away. This stuff is hurting you. Firstly that website is so ridiculous that it is one of two things. A troll parody or more likely a Russian bot farm. You love to google. Google Russian Hybrid Warfare. They literally brag about creating websites like this to spread misinformation. Why do you think it is a computer generated voice reading the script?

Did you even listen to what they said? Putin is stopping sex trafficking in Ukraine?

They finally switched to the GCR reset and switched to a gold backed currency where all countries are now 1:1. Does that actually make sense to you? How do you explain the fact that global markets continued on as normal today and it still will cost me AUD$1.40 to by US$1 or Ru140 to buy US$1?

It goes on to claim that the Pfizer vaccine kills one in 17 with the first jab and this increases with second and third jabs. Seriously TT, do you know 17 people who are vaccinated?

I have gone from disagreeing with you about this stuff, trying to not argue with you, to being genuinely concerned about you. That site and that video are not real, I dont even think they are trying to be real.

Look after yourself mate, seriously. Get away from it.
No worries mate....I suppose its the same as the many other sites available as well as MSM...but people reference their garbage as fact also...and by the way Im quite happy with my life,but could you prove that site is not real,just curious how to go about putting in a complaint to the big tech..
 
No worries mate....I suppose its the same as the many other sites available as well as MSM...but people reference their garbage as fact also...and by the way Im quite happy with my life,but could you prove that site is not real,just curious how to go about putting in a complaint to the big tech..

There is literally a disclaimer on the site TT. Fair enough to be suss on MSM but quoting blatant BS from the gutters of the internet is not cool. You genuinely seem to believe some of it mate, be careful.​

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No worries mate....I suppose its the same as the many other sites available as well as MSM...but people reference their garbage as fact also...and by the way Im quite happy with my life,but could you prove that site is not real,just curious how to go about putting in a complaint to the big tech..

TT just shut it down and never go back.

Have you listened to it? Donald Trump, who is a convicted Rapist and Felon has personally saved children in Kiev from a pedophile ring. Does that sound credible? It quotes David Icke as a credible source.

All of the GCR financial rubbish is immediately refutable by the fact that the world traded today as per normal, nothing changed. There was no reset.

TT this site and that video you are using as evidence, actually states that Pfizer Covid Vaccine causes AIDS. AIDS mate. This is the standard of proof you are offering?

MAte Im still listening to it and I am genuinely shocked that this is what you believe. You need some help mate, Im not joking and not having a go at you. Im serious.
 
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There is literally a disclaimer on the site TT. Fair enough to be suss on MSM but quoting blatant BS from the gutters of the internet is not cool. You genuinely seem to believe some of it mate, be careful.​

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Seriously my money is on Russian Troll Farm
 
Hello, everyone. Do not remain indifferent. We really need the help of the world against the war with fascist Russia! They, under the cover of imperial and Nazi slogans, sneakily attacked Ukraine at 4-5 am. There was no declaration of war, they just started a rocket attack! They introduced tanks and artillery, occupied our airspace and began bombing civilians. Look at what is happening in Kharkov, Kiev, and Mariupol - they are simply razing peaceful cities to the ground and killing civilians! It does not matter at all what language people speak or what God they believe in - they simply DESTROY THE PEOPLE, the unarmed population!!!! Children, women, old people, men - ALL of them.

I can't fight, my leg was injured before the war. I can't run, I can hardly walk. If I can write on this forum, I do it. At least I'm doing something.

We're scared, you know? We are very scared. Yes, Ukraine's military is very good, they are holding back one of the most powerful armies in the world! For almost two weeks now, little Ukraine has been holding back these moral freaks.

We all thank the countries of the world for their support in money and arms. We are very grateful to you for that! But it's not enough, unfortunately....

The Russian Army has sneakily bombed our military airfields with our warplanes. And even the surviving planes are fighting back, shooting down enemy planes every day. But there are just more of them!!!

Please! We really need the help of the world. Don't be afraid of you fascist Russia! It can only beat the weak and the small. In a fight with an equal it will sit on its ass and forget about its imperial ambitions forever!!!

Please, Ukraine needs help! Go to your ombudsman, your senator or congressman - let them help us close our skies, let them help us with tanks and warships! We need help! Does the whole world want another fascist country on the planet? Wasn't 1939-1945 enough for you? Today the fascists are Russia!

Please help Ukraine, we are very afraid! Every day bombs and shells fly over residential areas, schools, kindergartens, churches. Every day peaceful people die!!!

I heard that being afraid of nuclear war is Putin's fairy tale. He is the one who told this fairy tale to scare everyone! If he orders a nuclear strike, no one will carry out that order because he is not the one pushing the button.

But as soon as Putin realizes that a strong enemy is at war against him, his balls will immediately become very small. It is against the weak and strong that he can be so brave!

Please help Ukraine! We made our choice back in 2014 when we had our revolution! We don't want to be with Russia, we want to live free and peaceful!!!

Sorry for the mistakes, I am writing with the help of a translator.
 
Righto mate. LEts get real. You and I have had this back and forth for a few days in this thread. Every time I will address your points that yo umake with actual facts backed up. On EVERY single occassion you ignore them and just make another far fetched claim bereft of facts or evidence.

Thats cool....you are doing you...hard and fast.

You asked me to answer a question, I did. You ignored it.

I asked you two questions, you ignored it again and deflect again.

You are entitled to your opinion no matter how much I disagree with it or think its based in centruries old anti-semetic tropes, but your continual ignorance, deflection and refusal to address factual points shows you arent discussing in good faith. Again, thats cool but Im not playing your game.

Feel free to spout your baseless conspiratorial POV in the face of a wave of obvious factual evidence of the opposite of what you are saying. The cognitive dissonance is deafening. Knock yourself out.
The Rothschild thing isn’t really a conspiracy though 5150.during the renaissance and onwards they repeatedly funded wars and played both sides to amass the absolute fortune they have today . But it’s not like it’s a small family . It’s more like hundreds of offspring and offshoots , many probably not really knowing the name Rothschild or some conspiracy. It’s just old money maintaining its old money .

Of course banks profit from war. And the USA unfortunately operates at its peak economically during peak war times. The war machine funds that country .

But TT seriously bro , if you can’t see that you yourself are being manipulated by the anti MSM MeDiA , than I don’t know what to tell you .
The things your accusing other people of being are in direct parallel to yourself .
Most of the sites that your messaging comes from , have direct and indirect links to russian and chines counter espionage.

Basically it’s all about winning hearts and minds .
And all of it , is BS. Every media outlet has an agenda .
And hot tip , the Russians are currently in another country tearing shit up .
That’s a no no in the 21st century . That is 💯 a fact no one can debate .
 
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