Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

jirskyr said:
Agreed - panicking is what got Tigers into this mess in the first place, every year since 2012.

Tim Sheens panicked when he thought he was on the outer after 2010-2011.

The new coaches (JT, Potter) panicked when it appeared the Board would not give them a decent tenure to implement roster and cultural changes.

Cleary manoeuvred for high cost high risk signings, and we now know he always had one eye on the Penrith throne.

For the first time in a decade the Board has given the coach (a) time, and (b) support to built a long-lasting roster and cultural change at the club. Unfortunately that does not mean quick success and a result like 2005 is usually the exception not the rule.

I am personally glad to have fewer and fewer selfish money-grabbing heartless mercenaries at the club. If Euan Aitken says he wants a silly amount of money, you tell him "no thanks" and walk away from the deal. And you negotiate this way 100% of the time, so prospective players are aware of what they are dealing with. "You've gotta pay overs" is only said by clueless pundits or desperate fans who have no responsibility for or knowledge of the club's salary cap.

Because these guys who drag you through the ringer to get their signature - that's a reflection of personal character, and that will not change when they join your club, or the next time they are off contract. And it will not contribute to the cohesive culture of your club either. That's the downside of signings those Israel Folaus, Jarryd Haynes, Sonny Bills, Tedescos etc. They are in it for their own brand.
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Sheen's did not panic he just wanted to complete with the bigger clubs and try to win the title and knew he could not compete with the TPA's he rolled the dice and should have won in 2010 and could have in 2011 good on him for having the stones to do it

And don't blame him for 2014 onwards because alot of contacts was renewed under Potter and the board went over Potters head head to sign massive contacts
 
jirskyr said:
Unfortunately for players, what the Roosters desire can change very rapidly.

Sure they'll take care of you financially, but if a shiny new Ferrari comes to the market, they will happily put you out to pasture. If rumours are to be believed, they are doing this with Keary right now.
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Agree with that… ESL will pick him up…
 
With the terrible injury run we have had this season, it is hard to gauge what shape our roster is in as far as the near future goes. Okay we definitely need one NRL standard backrower, but I think a healthy roster and we would push a lot of teams.
 
Odessa said:
Sheen's did not panic he just wanted to complete with the bigger clubs and try to win the title and knew he could not compete with the TPA's he rolled the dice and should have won in 2010 and could have in 2011 good on him for having the stones to do it

And don't blame him for 2014 onwards because alot of contacts was renewed under Potter and the board went over Potters head head to sign massive contacts
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However you describe it, the cap was a mess for years and that was the turning point.
 
If you are aware of his background and how is mother used to drive him from Temora to training at the Panthers you get a feel for his determination to succeed. His impact on a game is far greater imo than Chrichton, he hits in defence but he runs the ball very hard. I'd suggest he is exactly the type of player we need and if it takes that to drag him away from the Panthers, so be it. Luke Lewis Mk11.
 
If we miss somehow miss out on Kade Dykes, we should go hard for Sunia Turuva from Panthers (Development player). He is carving up NSW Cup as much as Dykes is & provides options for Fullback/Wing/Centre. Cousin of Api Korisau. Speed, skill & agility, just a bit on the smaller size (not much though). Watch Luke Lewis' video on nswrl.com.au this week for his take.

Also if we miss Angus Crichton, we should go hard Matt Doorey asap if he passes medical. Kid was hailed as a future star on the edge, junior rep player, played with Tommy Talau & Rua Ng at Westfields under Lambkin. It's a risk and reward proposition but options are running out.
 
Odessa said:
Sheen's did not panic he just wanted to complete with the bigger clubs and try to win the title and knew he could not compete with the TPA's he rolled the dice and should have won in 2010 and could have in 2011 good on him for having the stones to do it

And don't blame him for 2014 onwards because alot of contacts was renewed under Potter and the board went over Potters head head to sign massive contacts
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Potter now head coach


At mounties.
 
BlackWhiteGold said:
If we miss somehow miss out on Kade Dykes, we should go hard for Sunia Turuva from Panthers (Development player). He is carving up NSW Cup as much as Dykes is & provides options for Fullback/Wing/Centre. Cousin of Api Korisau. Speed, skill & agility, just a bit on the smaller size (not much though). Watch Luke Lewis' video on nswrl.com.au this week for his take.
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Why not both?
 
Lee's fedora said:
You overpay for players like Angus
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Maybe a little, but we cant break or model. Make it a factor of the model (i.e. Marque bonus). We also need to be conscious of Papalihi who we got for an amazing price. It could create an issue if we're not careful. The original comment was about recently missed signings though. There was none I would overpay for.
 
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