Michael Maguire leaves club

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Flanagan has been kicked Out of the game - Twice!!
Not sacked from a club - kicked out of the game!!

His duty of care for his players is non existent!!
He should never be the leader of young men again… I can’t believe they let him commentate!!
Shouldn’t be allowed to even watch football!!
It was hilarious reading a quote from him yesterday about how he wants the Dogs job, and spoke about how when he got to the Sharks, he had to decide what kind of DNA they would have. I was like “oh yeah?”
 
We have lost to Newcastle, Warriors, titans,dragons. These are games we ahould have won, even though we were duded in a couply. Thats on the coach and the squad. Changes are needed for 2023. We need a coach who can turn us into a semi final side.
 
It was hilarious reading a quote from him yesterday about how he wants the Dogs job, and spoke about how when he got to the Sharks, he had to decide what kind of DNA they would have. I was like “oh yeah?”
He’s full of shit - that Sharks DNA had been there forever… they’ve been tackling since the early 2000’s and nothing else. Built off Paul Gallen
All he did was bought them some point in Barba and Maloney.
 
Extend him, show some loyalty to the coach from the outset.

If we sack him, do we expect a saviour to come in and turn us around?

He’s done well, our backline was firing with half of it out injured yesterday. 1-7 are playing well.

Clearly our back line was identified as an issue because they have all been let go of and we have signed a beast to replace them and are on the lookout for another.

We do need some decent props and at least one marquee one.

AD will slot into the 6 when he is back.

We’re on the up, forget our position on the ladder.
 
Not for me.

Lets see what happens in the next few rounds after the bye.
Lets put this loss into perspective,the team was grinding away week in week out with 1/2 a ressies side...we start getting NRL players back and we compound in the second half badly,what does this tell me...
1..Starford back to centres proved he has a lot to work on defensively before he is even NRL quality,same as AJ,and thats where the points were scored..
2..We have some good forwards,but when the pressure was applied by Souths this forward pack couldnt contain their pack for 80 mins,souths absolutely steamrolled them in the second half which to me we lacked quality and the mentality to withstand that pressure.
3..The spine is back to being the way its meant to be,they now have to stay together and on the field week in not be chopped and changed because of injuries..
4..Not knocking Brooks but straight back in after injury,I would have kept Madden there as he has been playing well with Hastings...
Theres lots to disect but basically to blame Madge constantly because we have very ordinary cattle gets you no where,a new coach isnt going to make a remarkable difference to the quality of blokes we have...
And remember most on here praised the efforts of the team while HALF the NRL side was out,thats what Madge had to work with and they did much better defensively..
 
Flanagan changed the Sharks by getting them on a doping program and being over the salary cap every year he was there. That was his claim to fame.
I get that. But that’s not totally true. He changed their DNA not just the juice! The reason they’re a strong side today is not because of the goldfish and fitznothing, it’s the foundations Flanagan put in place. They’re just ridding in his coat tails.
Now I get all the negative drug stuff and the cap but that’s not why they are tuff team today.
What about Bellamy do u rate him?? No one rorted the cap like him, and he’s held up as a Demi god!!
 
I get that. But that’s not totally true. He changed their DNA not just the juice! The reason they’re a strong side today is not because of the goldfish and fitznothing, it’s the foundations Flanagan put in place. They’re just ridding in his coat tails.
Now I get all the negative drug stuff and the cap but that’s not why they are tuff team today.
What about Bellamy do u rate him?? No one rorted the cap like him, and he’s held up as a Demi god!!
Bellamy never put an entire squads health, careers and lives at risk…

Flanagan did
 
I wanted Madge gone last year, then this year I though after our 2 wins we are going well.
However I think if we do make a change in 2023 we should do it now so the new coach gets a look at what he has to work with through some of 2022.
 
I like Madge and am I willing to give him the benefit of the doubt, but that was another hard blow.

Not the loss, but the manner.

A mid season sacking is always traumatic and rarely ends well.

One thing we don’t know is Madge’s side of the story and what impediments the club put on him, what players let him down, the number of times players clocked off and ignored his game plan, players not recruited he wanted when available. The ivan hangover was tough.

So before we get personal….

Not to hang onto him at all costs, no, but you get my point.

At this rate anyway, I doubt he will survive.

And as for club leadership, I have made my views known. I don’t think Lee and the board are quite up to it.
 
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Lets put this loss into perspective,the team was grinding away week in week out with 1/2 a ressies side...we start getting NRL players back and we compound in the second half badly,what does this tell me...
1..Starford back to centres proved he has a lot to work on defensively before he is even NRL quality,same as AJ,and thats where the points were scored..

2..We have some good forwards,but when the pressure was applied by Souths this forward pack couldnt contain their pack for 80 mins,souths absolutely steamrolled them in the second half which to me we lacked quality and the mentality to withstand that pressure.

3..The spine is back to being the way its meant to be,they now have to stay together and on the field week in not be chopped and changed because of injuries..

4..Not knocking Brooks but straight back in after injury,I would have kept Madden there as he has been playing well with Hastings...

Theres lots to disect but basically to blame Madge constantly because we have very ordinary cattle gets you no where,a new coach isnt going to make a remarkable difference to the quality of blokes we have...
And remember most on here praised the efforts of the team while HALF the NRL side was out,thats what Madge had to work with and they did much better defensively..
One of the best posts in ages.
 
We have lost to Newcastle, Warriors, titans,dragons. These are games we ahould have won, even though we were duded in a couply. Thats on the coach and the squad. Changes are needed for 2023. We need a coach who can turn us into a semi final side.
We are so far from a finals side it's. It funny. Not just us though. The bottom 6. Just making up the numbers every year.

Doesn't help with the biast commentary every week for the top sides.
 
Unfortunately Madge can't attract a marquee player. Yes we got API but I credit sheens for that. I'm a big fan of Payton but he won't come now. He has unfinished biz.

John morris with sheens and a coaching team behind him could turn out to be like Payton. He's a smart guy. Young players respond to him and he has tiger DNA you need that at our club. As for yesterday looked like Madge had flogged the team all week at training. They were so flat..
 
Madge did not cost us tonight. As with most years, once the mid season grind kicks in we go backwards. We just don’t have the class to turn momentum.
Give Madge a chance with a great backrower and a top no9 and than judge

Not defending Madge, but outside of the start of 2018, when has our club ever been a good defensive team? Only since Madge huh?
You are defending him. Because we were shit before he got here, you're using that as an excuse that he hasnt improved us in 4 years.
Cool story bro
 
I have gone back and forth on this a ton of times. I was almost back to the keep Madge side of things, but....

1. Bench rotations have not improved again. He plays blokes like Luc until they literally are out on their feet and refuses to budge.

2. It is year 4 and Madge has been unable to get the team to turn in 3 strong performances in a row...in 4 years.

It is a long time...

I am not sure he ever will get them consistent or get his benches right.

Not sure where we go from here.

12-0 up against the run of play last night...but 44-6 from the moment the pressure was applied.

I thought the days of 44-6 runs and 32-0 halves were perhaps gone. Souths had lots of key players out last night also.
 
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