Signings, Suggestions & Rumours Discussion

[batboy]

Tedesco was good right off the bat. Got injured straight away that was the problem.
Laurie needs A LOT of improving. He isn't fast and when he gets the ball slows momentum. He never beats a defender, suspect in defence, doesn't have playmaking skills to chime in attacks. Look, I like his style but I don't get the love for him.

Agreed!!
Anyone making such ridiculous statements obviously never saw Tedesco in his first trial
(In those god awful yellow jerseys)
Was a superstar at 18, Basically went from Ball to first grade - Didn't really play 20's much!!
If Teddy wasn't considered a star (or serious player) until 2016 - Why did Raiders sign him in 2014, We sulked - He stayed!!
Played for Italy at the end of his second year, And played Origin in 2016...

Chances are you're a serious player player for some time before you play origin.

 

[TieDye]

Agreed!!
Anyone making such ridiculous statements obviously never saw Tedesco in his first trial
(In those god awful yellow jerseys)
Was a superstar at 18, Basically went from Ball to first grade - Didn't really play 20's much!!
If Teddy wasn't considered a star (or serious player) until 2016 - Why did Raiders sign him in 2014, We sulked - He stayed!!
Played for Italy at the end of his second year, And played Origin in 2016...

Chances are you're a serious player player for some time before you play origin.

It was a timeline comparison; but you’re probably right in that Laurie may never be Origin calibre. I think his set piece contributions and Hodgo like slipperiness will continue to develop. It’s a full blown running game and support play that I believe might level him up

 

[Terry T.Nuts]

I’m hearing that Joseph Tapine is on his way to tigers, pending announcement just got word from my sources.
*sources may or may not be myself imagining*

I am calling this poo.

 

[TieDye]

Tapine is a floater at this stage

 

[Needaname]

Agreed!!
Anyone making such ridiculous statements obviously never saw Tedesco in his first trial
(In those god awful yellow jerseys)
Was a superstar at 18, Basically went from Ball to first grade - Didn't really play 20's much!!
If Teddy wasn't considered a star (or serious player) until 2016 - Why did Raiders sign him in 2014, We sulked - He stayed!!
Played for Italy at the end of his second year, And played Origin in 2016...

Chances are you're a serious player player for some time before you play origin.

We all loved Teddy. But even after what some would perceive as a decent season in 2015 within our poorly performing team that year, he wasn’t spoken about outside our circle. The raiders were looking to reshape their roster after releasing Dugan and were looking at a young up and comer.
He was showing plenty but was also far from consistent.
If I’m being honest, Teddy was the equivalent to what Walsh is now for the warriors for us back then. A sure talent but inconsistent and far from the finished product.
Laurie is a tier down I’ll admit. And if I was to compare him to someone equivalent to the group of senior fullbacks in the game now it would be Clint Gutherson.
I’m sure everyone would love Teddy or Walsh for that matter in their team. But there’s only one of them to go around, why not persist with the next best?
This is why I’m happy with Laurie, get him into some proper running / sprint training and he’ll break out.
Would of scored on the weekend if he had a high leg running style.

 

[batboy]

We all loved Teddy. But even after what some would perceive as a decent season in 2015 within our poorly performing team that year, he wasn’t spoken about outside our circle. The raiders were looking to reshape their roster after releasing Dugan and were looking at a young up and comer.
He was showing plenty but was also far from consistent.
If I’m being honest, Teddy was the equivalent to what Walsh is now for the warriors for us back then. A sure talent but inconsistent and far from the finished product.
Laurie is a tier down I’ll admit. And if I was to compare him to someone equivalent to the group of senior fullbacks in the game now it would be Clint Gutherson.
I’m sure everyone would love Teddy or Walsh for that matter in their team. But there’s only one of them to go around, why not persist with the next best?
This is why I’m happy with Laurie, get him into some proper running / sprint training and he’ll break out.
Would of scored on the weekend if he had a high leg running style.

Far out man, Some peoples memories are non-existent I swear...
Teddy was the City Origin fullback in 2013 (First year off injury)
Well before he made Blues Origin.
Unless Mick Potter was the City Coach - It's obvious he was spoken about outside the Tigers.

I'm not a fan of Gutherson....
But you'd be the only person in Rugby League to have him and Laurie on similar pegging.
If you're rating all the starting fullbacks in the comp (Fairly) in 2022 - Laurie is 15th (Above Dufty)
- And that's not including the teams that have a back up Fullback that's probably above and beyond what Laurie offers.

I'm knock knocking Laurie (Here) But he's no where near the Gutherson level... (not that that's anything to be aiming at)

 

[supercoach]

Tapine Suaali, why not throw in Munster and Payne H. Not going to happen, we can offer double the odds, still not going to happen.
We are a club your management talk to in order to get more money out of other clubs

 

[bptiger 0]

Don't get people hopes up too much.

I hope so. Wests Tigers signing strike rate has been abysmal, probably something like 1 from fifteen.

This another gee up , did u hear this in a pub or is it from a reliable source, sick of hearing tiger targets only to see them go elsewhere. No blame on u , just having a whinge

 

[Needaname]

Far out man, Some peoples memories are non-existent I swear...
Teddy was the City Origin fullback in 2013 (First year off injury)
Well before he made Blues Origin.
Unless Mick Potter was the City Coach - It's obvious he was spoken about outside the Tigers.

I'm not a fan of Gutherson....
But you'd be the only person in Rugby League to have him and Laurie on similar pegging.
If you're rating all the starting fullbacks in the comp (Fairly) in 2022 - Laurie is 15th (Above Dufty)
- And that's not including the teams that have a back up Fullback that's probably above and beyond what Laurie offers.

I'm knock knocking Laurie (Here) But he's no where near the Gutherson level... (not that that's anything to be aiming at)

For starters, Tedesco was the left or right winger for the city origin team. I remember being annoyed he wasn’t considered for fullback.
Secondly. I made a comparison of Lauries potential progression. I did not say he is at Guthersons level I said if you were to say Walsh is equivalent to a rookie Tedesco that Laurie is the equivalent to a rookie Gutherson.
Gutherson has improved out of sight since he was appointed the fullback position full time. but mostly has focussed his game on effort plays and a incredibly high level of fitness as he lacks the brilliance of the other fullbacks at the top of the game.
Fair enough he is 15th right now. He is also the 2nd youngest fullback in the comp.
There is no time like the present with some of you guys.

 

[earl]

Tapine Suaali, why not throw in Munster and Payne H. Not going to happen, we can offer double the odds, still not going to happen.

Suaali has a year by year contract and he is probably looking for an upgrade after making the extended SOO squad. The Rorters might not be able to upgrade him.

It's worth a shot.

It could also lead to someone like Angus Crichton being released.

I agree we don't have much chance with the other players.

 

[earl]

Fair enough he is 15th right now. He is also the 2nd youngest fullback in the comp.
There is no time like the present with some of you guys.

I'm not sold on Laurie. He has been poor this season. His best game was last week.

I agree in relation to your point on the development of players. Not every player comes in and kills it from a young age.

 

[bathursttiger1]

Tapine is a floater at this stage

Just hope he’s not the Titanic.

 

[FinestTigers]

Far out man, Some peoples memories are non-existent I swear...
Teddy was the City Origin fullback in 2013 (First year off injury)
Well before he made Blues Origin.
Unless Mick Potter was the City Coach - It's obvious he was spoken about outside the Tigers.

I'm not a fan of Gutherson....
But you'd be the only person in Rugby League to have him and Laurie on similar pegging.
If you're rating all the starting fullbacks in the comp (Fairly) in 2022 - Laurie is 15th (Above Dufty)
- And that's not including the teams that have a back up Fullback that's probably above and beyond what Laurie offers.

I'm knock knocking Laurie (Here) But he's no where near the Gutherson level... (not that that's anything to be aiming at)

How do you guys rate a fullback?

In only 7 games this season D.Laurie is the highest ranking (7 games, 7 assists,15rh) of all fullbacks in the NRL for try assists, R Walsh is ranked (11 games, 6 assists, 24th).

D.Laurie would even rate much higher (top 5) if the ranking was done by averages which is 1 per game for Daine, are we still not grateful to have this rookie fullback?

 

[BAGNF05]

Wat

How do you guys rate a fullback?

In only 7 games this season D.Laurie is the highest ranking (7 games, 7 assists,15rh) of all fullbacks in the NRL for try assists, R Walsh is ranked (11 games, 6 assists, 24th).

D.Laurie would even rate much higher (top 5) if the ranking was done by averages which is 1 per game for Daine, are we still not grateful to have this rookie fullback?

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Watch the games, not the stats. You don’t get stats for a lot of the important moments in a football game.

 

[Needaname]

I'm not sold on Laurie. He has been poor this season. His best game was last week.

I agree in relation to your point on the development of players. Not every player comes in and kills it from a young age.

Whilst I keep reading you suggest that Brooks would make a better fullback than a half, I’ll remain firm with my thoughts about Laurie.

 

[TieDye]

Just hope he’s not the Titanic.

Money’s tied in an iceberg cap

 

[batboy]

For starters, Tedesco was the left or right winger for the city origin team. I remember being annoyed he wasn’t considered for fullback.
Secondly. I made a comparison of Lauries potential progression. I did not say he is at Guthersons level I said if you were to say Walsh is equivalent to a rookie Tedesco that Laurie is the equivalent to a rookie Gutherson.
Gutherson has improved out of sight since he was appointed the fullback position full time. but mostly has focussed his game on effort plays and a incredibly high level of fitness as he lacks the brilliance of the other fullbacks at the top of the game.
Fair enough he is 15th right now. He is also the 2nd youngest fullback in the comp.
There is no time like the present with some of you guys.

Mate - I'm not gonna draw you a picture...
Google it!! Far out...
- He was starting Fullback, With a heap of other players who played Origin
Siro played as well... Was at the game.
You're thinking when he came back from the second big Injury (2014-15 maybe)

I'm comparing Laurie based on all aspects of a Fullbacks game,
Age is a factor sure, Brimson, Paps are a similar age to DL and been stars for years now...
Campbell is a similar age also - Daine's behind him from my POV
Miles behind Walsh.... I can't think of any other young fellas.

Daines doing a job, But if he's not where we should be looking to as our ceiling in that position.
He lacks effort a lot of the time - And in that position... It's the foundation of your game.

My whole reply was to the notion that Tedesco wasn't really rated in the game before he played origin....
That's just rubbish!!

 

[batboy]

How do you guys rate a fullback?

In only 7 games this season D.Laurie is the highest ranking (7 games, 7 assists,15rh) of all fullbacks in the NRL for try assists, R Walsh is ranked (11 games, 6 assists, 24th).

D.Laurie would even rate much higher (top 5) if the ranking was done by averages which is 1 per game for Daine, are we still not grateful to have this rookie fullback?

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I start with Effort - He lacks that in spades.

 

[Stevec]

I want to analyse the basics
Fullback - good under high ball, fast, can make line break ,try assist
Good hands LAURIE ticks the boxes
Wingers- good under high ball , good hands , good finishers, big meters hitups
don't go into touch ,can tackle NOFOALOMA & MAUMALO tick the boxes
Centers -good hands , fast ,line breaks , support line breaks can tackle
NADEN,ROBERTS, DOUEHI tick the boxes
Halves 6/7 .above all instinctive playmakers ,good kicking game, fast, error free
Organiser HASTINGS ticks the boxes,im personally not sure BROOKS does
Q -is he instinctive ,eyes up footy ?, Q- is his kicking game good?MADDEN maybe?
Dummy half -must be great tackler, must be quick to play the ball , good passing game , well timed dummy half runs
SIMPKIN -I Feel trys hard but a bit small gets pummelled by opposing forwards, LIDDLE -a little more robust but suspect passing game
NU BROWN . too early to tell but signs good might be great dummy half or utility
Forwards -must be tough ,fit ,great tacklers and above all bend opposition line
back ,not get bent back ourselves .I'm not sure we have many that do that
Thinking of next year we have papalii, api ,steph ( if fit) ,twal, musgrove,blore
I FEEL THIS IS WHERE WE NEED 2 or3 additional top class recruits !!!

 

[BAGNF05]

Mate - I'm not gonna draw you a picture...
Google it!! Far out...
- He was starting Fullback, With a heap of other players who played Origin
Siro played as well... Was at the game.
You're thinking when he came back from the second big Injury (2014-15 maybe)

I'm comparing Laurie based on all aspects of a Fullbacks game,
Age is a factor sure, Brimson, Paps are a similar age to DL and been stars for years now...
Campbell is a similar age also - Daine's behind him from my POV
Miles behind Walsh.... I can't think of any other young fellas.

Daines doing a job, But if he's not where we should be looking to as our ceiling in that position.
He lacks effort a lot of the time - And in that position... It's the foundation of your game.

My whole reply was to the notion that Tedesco wasn't really rated in the game before he played origin....
That's just rubbish!!

You could see Tedesco would play for Australia in his first 10-15 games imo. Silly to compare him to anyone else as he’s miles ahead in the position.