WT Ownership, The Board & Senior Management - MEGA Thread

[BAGNF05]

And then get a gig at best & less

Surprised Pascoe hasn’t put us in the best and less jerseys to save a quid.

 

[jirskyr]

You said we have no power to remove them, which I don’t deny. I just wonder how long you can go on when you’re crap at something. Seven years is a good knock.

I dunno mate, some of these dinosaurs hang around a good long time. You don't give up a good gig in League if you don't have to.

 

[BAGNF05]

I dunno mate, some of these dinosaurs hang around a good long time. You don't give up a good gig in League if you don't have to.

He doesn’t come across as a dinosaur. Just way too relaxed and soft for the dog eat dog world he’s in.

 

[Merlot]

You said we have no power to remove them, which I don’t deny. I just wonder how long you can go on when you’re crap at something. Seven years is a good knock.

20year knock on the local council.some1 asked once if i ever worked for the council,no i said ,but they still payed me.imo the top shelf needs an upgrade as the whole club does.

 

[twentyforty]

Some might think our recruiting has improved but other clubs have improved more than us, so no we aren’t really making big strides forward.

I’m sure the recruiting team go out and approach players or more correctly their Managers. But whether they have success in their role ultimately comes back to each players decision, which is influenced by a number of factors, many of which come under the umbrella of the front office.

I’m talking about the external reputation of the club, relationships with media and managers, the facilities, word on the street, the projection of success. Etc etc . All of this I would say is what our front office has completely failed at over a lengthy period and in my opinion Jesus Christ himself would struggle to sell us as Justin’s ‘destination club’.

Our reputation began to decline with the success of SoO . As Qlders became a dominant force and with Balmain supplying a few Blues and later the J/V we became the team they loved to hate. No self respecting Qlder would sign with us. We’ve had the odd one here and there, but only because they had nowhere else to go.
WT didn’t do much to arrest this slide, until recently. The doco is a significant reflection of at least the admission that our reputation needs building.
We now have players signing with other clubs for bigger contracts. LOL

 

[SeanT]

@momo_amp_medo so Madge comes under fire but those who hired him are above criticism no matter how bonehead their decisions??

The same people that leak stuff all the time. They should be Al sacked if there are leaks.

 

[PJ_]

20year knock on the local council.some1 asked once if i ever worked for the council,no i said ,but they still payed me.imo the top shelf needs an upgrade as the whole club does.

My wife has just taken up a job in admin in the council.
Unfortunately I tend to pay a lot of tax so at least I'm getting some value back

 

[BZN]

No Club in any sport in the world, which is governed well, doesn't finish in the top half of their Competition 11 years in a row.

G'day @Eternal Tiger
I gotta admit I know nothing about the ability of Our Board individually or as a group, but imo they should be applauded for leading Us through all those 11 plus dark years, to now be able to see ☀️ days ahead and go forward with confidence.
Imo to suggest the Board are 🤡 is disrespectful.

I reckon all those years of infighting in the Boardroom for control of Wests Tigers put us back many years.
Then just recently back door Benny Elias comes along and upsets things by wanting to control of Our Club.
Some of Our senior players put Us back years by letting their voice, actions and disloyalty be heard where it wasn't needed.
The Cleary saga set Us back years.
All of this combined imo has had a Very destablising effect on Our progress as a winning club.

We're JUST NOW starting to get Our act together in a big way, with Our COE at Concord, and that didn't just come out of nowhere did it?... No...Our Board would have been a major contributor in getting it up and running.
We're now making major inroads into the Campbelltown area with Our Pathways programme.
A 2nd Centre Of Excellence is in the plans for Campbelltown also.
Leichhardt Oval is set for a massive upgrade 😁.
We're now able to attract much better quality players to Our Club.
We have a coach who has proven he can get his players to perform at the highest level and We have seen better performances from Our current players albeit a bit inconsistent.

Stop living in the past, those years are gone and it wont matter how much we complain about the past, it aint gonna change anything... is it?
Look to the future and believe Wests Tigers future WILL BE much better and something to get excited about again just as it was in 2005, and if you do that I reckon You will feel better also 🙂.

 

[BAGNF05]

G'day @Eternal Tiger
I gotta admit I know nothing about the ability of Our Board individually or as a group, but imo they should be applauded for leading Us through all those 11 plus dark years, to now be able to see ☀️ days ahead and go forward with confidence.
Imo to suggest the Board are 🤡 is disrespectful.

I reckon all those years of infighting in the Boardroom for control of Wests Tigers put us back many years.
Then just recently back door Benny Elias comes along and upsets things by wanting to control of Our Club.
Some of Our senior players put Us back years by letting their voice, actions and disloyalty be heard where it wasn't needed.
The Cleary saga set Us back years.
All of this combined imo has had a Very destablising effect on Our progress as a winning club.

We're JUST NOW starting to get Our act together in a big way, with Our COE at Concord, and that didn't just come out of nowhere did it?... No...Our Board would have been a major contributor in getting it up and running.
We're now making major inroads into the Campbelltown area with Our Pathways programme.
A 2nd Centre Of Excellence is in the plans for Campbelltown also.
Leichhardt Oval is set for a massive upgrade 😁.
We're now able to attract much better quality players to Our Club.
We have a coach who has proven he can get his players to perform at the highest level and We have seen better performances from Our current players albeit a bit inconsistent.

Stop living in the past, those years are gone and it wont matter how much we complain about the past, it aint gonna change anything... is it?
Look to the future and believe Wests Tigers future WILL BE much better and something to get excited about again just as it was in 2005, and if you do that I reckon You will feel better also 🙂.

We are worse now than in the past. Big whoop, two new gyms plus juniors (we always had juniors), nothing new. Players don’t view us as a good career move, and rightly so. Your black and gold shades are firmly on mate.

 

[BZN]

Mate you’re going in circles. I only read the first part of your manifesto before tapping out.

You seem to be confused at the fact that all agree the board is also incompetent. Your argument that “the board kept Pascoe on so therefore they are to blame” is just silly. It’s not one or the other, it’s both. Point to where someone ( other than you) is defending the board? The fact they keep Pascoe on shows how inept they are as well.

I beg your pardon loud drum.
But where do you get the idea "that all agree the Board is incompetent" ?

 

[bigsiro]

G'day @Eternal Tiger
I gotta admit I know nothing about the ability of Our Board individually or as a group, but imo they should be applauded for leading Us through all those 11 plus dark years, to now be able to see ☀️ days ahead and go forward with confidence.

Magpies I usually don’t disagree with you but what in blazes are you on about?
The board should be applauded for leading us?

We are a bigger laughing stock than we have ever been.
It’s been 11 years of pure and utter crap!

I don’t see any ☀️ . I have zero confidence.

This board and management are conpletely responsible for our repeated dismal failures on the field, in our inability to create a strong culture (or any culture), negligent handling of our cap, repeated poor recruitment, inability to develop pathways.

These are not even assumptions. The evidence speaks for itself.

Applauding them is an affront.

 

[The Fresh Oil]

This thread won’t be able to keep up with the clowns and their

I beg your pardon loud drum.
But where do you get the idea "that all agree the Board is incompetent" ?

everyone minus @MAGPIES1963

On the plus side, the clown college keeps pumping out ammo for this thread.

 

[FinestTigers]

It's such a lazy argument you make here, accusing someone of being a groupie simply because you don't agree with them. Lazy.

I can't make it any more clear that I don't care if Pascoe is sacked or retained. Literally does not impact me at all. You may know I am involved with The Ambush, and the removal of Pascoe would have no impact on that either. We are independent of the club, and though I have have met with Pascoe a dozen or so times, it was only in the interests of building closer ties between members/fans and the club.

Are you not in The Jungle? Haven't your Jungle people reached out to Pascoe to try and discuss your own initiatives?

I am not an apologist for Pascoe and I am not specifically defending him. Rather - I am critiquing what I view to be weak and ultimately pointless arguments.

I remain unconvinced that Pascoe is NOT actually good at his job. The only evidence anyone can rally against Pascoe is (a) that Tigers don't win enough, (b) Tigers don't sign superstars, and (c) Farahgate. I remain unconvinced that (a) and (b) are the direct result of CEO incompetence, or whether they are even within the technical remit of a CEO.

(c) was obviously a total cock-up, though I believe NRL was unfairly harsh given all the other rorts in the league. Tigers and Pascoe should still have been way way more clever about it. They were naive. But The Board did nothing and the penalties are now paid, so we need to move on.

And thus the reason I see these threads as ultimately pointless is because fans have no power over the CEO or The Board appointments. It's like an old man shouting at the clouds. Not that I am against fresh new complaints or discussions, but that is not what these are. Specifically this thread was opened to make tired old arguments and list old failures. It was a veiled attempt to criticise a specific person under the guise of "front office". I didn't even make much of an original attempt to comment, I only wrote one line, but it triggered responses.

Oh oh but there are also, simultaneously, apparently "green shoots" of promise, and all we need is a new CEO and maybe a new coach to take advantage of these opportunities. Apparently Tim Sheens is a wise appointment. Apparently the pathways strategy is promising. Apparently the junior stocks look good. The CoE is about to open. Tigers are financially quite well positioned and sponsorship and membership are strong. Brent Read even writes an opinion piece today about how Tigers are arguably the best-positioned of the bottom clubs to turn the corner (and why Ciraldo should sign with Tigers, if he leaves Penrith).

Of course none of those emerging positive opportunities are a reflection of Pascoe, or "the front office" or The Board.

The whole argument falls flat, or perhaps more correctly, it just echoes around in the chamber. If Pascoe is indeed incompetent, then The Board are incompetent for keeping him on. OK, so Pascoe and The Board are incompetent. What next? If we can all agree that the leaders of the organisation are all incompetent, they should all be sacked or sack themselves... but they haven't been, and they won't, so what next? I guess we continue to shout at the clouds.

Yes, (without mentioning the time long past) i've recently have always agreed that the WT have done a tremendous amount of good things recently and that we will have a truely strong competitive team in the near future.

But what i see that, todays other big discussion is Pascoes (and the boards) silence about the media's speculations and lies.

For the sake of the club and supporters the WT cannot keep remaining silent about this medias bias.

The jouno's can not keep writing opinions and speculations and make them look as if it's news and worst of all without the requirements of naming sources for their pathetic and damaging stories.

 

[kiwitiger]

Just Hears on the WTPoddy

The Players voted to not support a move to hire Craig Bellamy and chose Paul Langmack instead.

Imagine if we got Bellemy

Bellamy would have coached a couple of years...then be sacked/not renewed. So no wrestle. But also no 2005.
Bellamy would then have had to get a real job.

 

[Spartan117]

Im adding sacking Madge whilst on the cusp of turning the club that has failed for 15 years straight.

Another epic fail.

 

[BZN]

Magpies I usually don’t disagree with you but what in blazes are you on about?
The board should be applauded for leading us?

We are a bigger laughing stock than we have ever been.
It’s been 11 years of pure and utter crap!

I don’t see any ☀️ . I have zero confidence.

This board and management are conpletely responsible for our repeated dismal failures on the field, in our inability to create a strong culture (or any culture), negligent handling of our cap, repeated poor recruitment, inability to develop pathways.

These are not even assumptions. The evidence speaks for itself.

Applauding them is an affront.

Yep...you are 💯 correct @bigsiro 🙂
I've changed my mind in the last hour since the news of Madge's sacking 🙁

 

[pawsandclaws1]

Nice post Tragic. 😁

 

[LARDS]

G'day @Eternal Tiger
I gotta admit I know nothing about the ability of Our Board individually or as a group, but imo they should be applauded for leading Us through all those 11 plus dark years, to now be able to see ☀️ days ahead and go forward with confidence.
Imo to suggest the Board are 🤡 is disrespectful.

I reckon all those years of infighting in the Boardroom for control of Wests Tigers put us back many years.
Then just recently back door Benny Elias comes along and upsets things by wanting to control of Our Club.
Some of Our senior players put Us back years by letting their voice, actions and disloyalty be heard where it wasn't needed.
The Cleary saga set Us back years.
All of this combined imo has had a Very destablising effect on Our progress as a winning club.

We're JUST NOW starting to get Our act together in a big way, with Our COE at Concord, and that didn't just come out of nowhere did it?... No...Our Board would have been a major contributor in getting it up and running.
We're now making major inroads into the Campbelltown area with Our Pathways programme.
A 2nd Centre Of Excellence is in the plans for Campbelltown also.
Leichhardt Oval is set for a massive upgrade 😁.
We're now able to attract much better quality players to Our Club.
We have a coach who has proven he can get his players to perform at the highest level and We have seen better performances from Our current players albeit a bit inconsistent.

Stop living in the past, those years are gone and it wont matter how much we complain about the past, it aint gonna change anything... is it?
Look to the future and believe Wests Tigers future WILL BE much better and something to get excited about again just as it was in 2005, and if you do that I reckon You will feel better also 🙂.

"Imo to suggest the Board are 🤡 is disrespectful." to clowns

 

[Geo]

The CEO couldn't even be bothered to add a comment to the removal of the Coach..